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Joe Slowboat posted:As far as we know Mottom built her interdimensional hover palace - in fact, all that keeps it aloft is her terrible will. Abbadon said on Tumblr that it was 'rumored' to be built on the ruins of the Palace of Radiance, the home of the Master of Aesthetics (from one of the Aesma stories).
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MikeJF posted:Abbadon said on Tumblr that it was 'rumored' to be built on the ruins of the Palace of Radiance, the home of the Master of Aesthetics (from one of the Aesma stories). That doesn't mean she didn't build it, or that it's not her terrible will maintaining it. The theme of the demiurges isn't just 'haha not gods' but rather the immense power and capacity for splendor that can come from ruining the world with colonial exploitation. Mottom hit that theme hard, including immortality through human sacrifice; Mammon is literally a dragon who owns a bank and built the internet. They can do amazing things, but mostly through exploitation of others. Presumably True Royalty has no need for such contrivances.
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do you think somewhere in this huge vault of priceless treasures is that rarest of gems, an alive Cio?
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Joe Slowboat posted:As far as we know Mottom built her interdimensional hover palace - in fact, all that keeps it aloft is her terrible will. she looted and redecorated an existing palace, then ripped it out of the ground to serve as her mobile oppression fortress. That's not "building". The whole deal with the demiurges is they can do amazing things, but they don't do any productive things. They can jury-rig the creations of others into weapons or toys for themselves on a whim, but with the power of God and millennia to explore it they're still philosophically incapable of real creation and the world around them is still just the ruins of their predecessors; that's where Zoss's efforts to learn the secrets of God failed. Tom's written a bit in some of the under-comic fluff about how that's a whole school of magic all to itself that the demiurges just... don't bother to learn. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jan 18, 2018 |
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:she looted and redecorated an existing palace, then ripped it out of the ground to serve as her mobile oppression fortress. That's not "building". In other words, they’re demiurges.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:she looted and redecorated an existing palace, then ripped it out of the ground to serve as her mobile oppression fortress. That's not "building". IIRC, the Black Art -- creation ex nihilo -- is less "a school that the Demiurges don't bother to learn" and more considered impossible / mythical-tier magic, even for Them.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:do you think somewhere in this huge vault of priceless treasures is that rarest of gems, an alive Cio? My dude jokes don't get better with repetition.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:do you think somewhere in this huge vault of priceless treasures is that rarest of gems, an alive Cio? Motherfucker posted:My dude jokes don't get better with repetition. Inside the huge vault is the rarest of treasures, an intact chest of teacups.
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Jan 18, 2018 00:07
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that huge vault contains the friends we made along the way
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nimby posted:Inside the huge vault is the rarest of treasures, an intact chest of teacups. I find it hilarious.
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Darth Walrus posted:In other words, they’re demiurges. or yeah more simply Poltergrift posted:IIRC, the Black Art -- creation ex nihilo -- is less "a school that the Demiurges don't bother to learn" and more considered impossible / mythical-tier magic, even for Them. looking for the original breakdown but iirc it's a lil bit of both - it's obscure and little-practiced, not because it's impossible, but because it's the magical equivalent of learning to churn your own butter and the practitioners of Throne are more motivated by a desire to find the shortest route between them and a quick buck than by finding joy in their craftsmanship. The effect is seen everywhere - it wouldn't take the power to create matter ex nihilo to make Throne look less like a decaying mausoleum with a slum bolted to it, it'd just take a vision of what else it could be and a willingness to put in some effort that doesn't directly contribute to one's own dominance of the pile of rubble that's there now, and in the ages since the gods died nobody's taken an interest. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jan 18, 2018 |
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Motherfucker posted:My dude jokes don't get better with repetition. man i will never get used to bss's... unique culture
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My point was not that they are in the final accounting creative; just that even the Gnostic Demiurge makes some things (broken, incomplete things, like material reality). To say that a vast empire cannot produce anything, rather than to count the cost and recognize that Mottom's wasteful opulence is funded by ravaging worlds, is a lot more boring. My contention is that Yre is a horrible enough thing, and enough of an expression of its creator's imperfect mind, that there's no reason Mammon couldn't have built his own fractal prison-vault. it's not truly creative, it's just technically proficient.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:do you think somewhere in this huge vault of priceless treasures is that rarest of gems, an alive Cio? i'm gonna lol when it turns out Cio is Seriously Dead This Time, For Real.
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woops turns out that one of the few people who helped me nearly altruistically is broken into pieces because I didn't care, and all the pieces are lost in the endless fractal space that was once held together by a god wich I subsequently killed and collapsed the zone.  white chain is next, and it's gonna be more than a blue needle in the eye
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SniperWoreConverse posted:woops turns out that one of the few people who helped me nearly altruistically
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:do you think somewhere in this huge vault of priceless treasures is that rarest of gems, an alive Cio? 
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Jan 18, 2018 06:12
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That better end up on Abbadon's tumblr.
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Jan 18, 2018 08:54
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Ashcans posted:The river is made from Mammon's tears, because he has realized the true treasure is the friends we made along the way.
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Quantum Toast posted:So then he stole a bunch of people's friends and they built that town in the distance? Nah, that's inefficient. He just stole the way along which we made the friends. Saves time and labor costs.
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Jan 18, 2018 15:31
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Is this a tiny village, or am I just seeing the perspective wrong?
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Jan 18, 2018 22:24
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Say Nothing posted:Is this a tiny village, or am I just seeing the perspective wrong? It's a regular-sized village, she's just standing on a cliff, with a waterfall in front of her
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Jan 18, 2018 22:32
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it really, really doesn't convey the idea as "there's a huge river directly underneath this waterfall" and not "this stream continues after a four-foot drop"
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Jan 18, 2018 22:34
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Mammon ended up owning the entire village, and loaded it up into the vault.
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This isn't just "that village Mammon owns." This is Treasuretown, a small, rural settlement in Southwestern Ynamon, far from the hustle and bustle of Dragon City or the suburban bliss of Goldsmith. What I'm saying is that Mammon owns and has placed in his vault enough villages that the residents of his holdings have developed distinct cultural identities based on their position in his big old loot chamber.
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Poltergrift posted:This isn't just "that village Mammon owns." This is Treasuretown, a small, rural settlement in Southwestern Ynamon, far from the hustle and bustle of Dragon City or the suburban bliss of Goldsmith. I feel like, given the setting, it's likely that Treasuretown has been at war with Goldsmith for generations - or possibly they've all allied to defend themselves from the occasional Grand Dragon attack when Mammon decides he's hungry for some trophy humans.
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it's a good thing operant loves to draw coins
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The inhabitants are forced to repeat an unchanging routine, flawlessly performing a number of traditional events and celebrations that had been called "a cultural treasure" by some sort of UNESCO-like organism.
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For once i do agree that the visual here, specifically the perspective, is harder to parse than it should be.
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Comrade Gorbash posted:For once i do agree that the visual here, specifically the perspective, is harder to parse than it should be. A combination of line weights and background haze would help.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:yeah I don't get the impression Mammon or Mottom do much building of anything, if the demiurges were running around creating their own universes they'd be significantly closer to the old gods than parasites feasting on their decaying corpses It'd also be funny if it was a pretty chill place because typically nobody is ever going to reach here.
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A.o.D. posted:A combination of line weights and background haze would help. I feel like the lack of atmospheric perspective is purposeful. It's an infinite fractal space; why wouldn't it be absolutely crystalline clear in every direction you look? But yeah, totes confusing at a glance. Took me a while to parse it, too.
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https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/954572387680473088
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thats a fairly fuckin dubious dog imo
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paranoid randroid posted:thats a fairly fuckin dubious dog imo Korgan posted:You all need your eyes checked
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Ask the people over at @dog_rates, IMO.
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That's a lot of swords in that dog
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ThaumPenguin posted:That's a lot of swords in that dog Rather good as a dog but rather terrible as Sif.
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