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rodbeard posted:We need a job that can ERP but cannot be heard or understood in any way by people not in that job, has no access, and is not considered human. Look, when people join Goonstation to "gently caress with people," this is clearly not what was meant.
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Jan 17, 2018 04:08
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Implement balls digestion for rear end day
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Jan 17, 2018 05:09
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Isaac posted:Implement balls digestion for rear end day like scrotae and testes or juggling clown balls
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Jazerus posted:without mysterious undiscovered fundamental forces simulated somehow by the byond code the entire station would fly apart spontaneously Byobd basically underwrote centcom so yep
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Unhappy Meal posted:I wonder which janky features that rely on Byond behaviors will break first. You'd not believe how loving weird it is seeing this link getting thrown about the internet I started this project with another goon and a cool AUS dude back before I signed up to SA in 2016. At the time it was supposed to be pretty much a direct clone of /tg/ but well written enough that it was easier for any decent dev to dive in and do poo poo Both goonfriend and I bailed after only a month or something, but the other guy kept it up. I swear he has endless enthusiasm and work ethic, but the sad thing is the code base seemed to go full spaghetti once the randoms started adding poo poo On the positive, it meant they got poo poo done, I've been keeping an eye on it since and they've actually got a load of base features in there... But it's already difficult to add poo poo since they don't seem to have kept the original mentality we went in with However, I want to see it keep going, while it's not the greatest or best project in the world, it has got potential to do good poo poo and the folk running it now are genuinely nice people with good intentions. I'm sad to see people poo poo on it as soon as they see it just because it's new Apologies for the fairly random post, I just wanted to get my 2 cents out on the announcement from the guy who was there at ground zero
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Jan 17, 2018 09:22
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rodbeard posted:We need a job that can ERP but cannot be heard or understood in any way by people not in that job, has no access, and is not considered human. Ambadassador
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rodbeard posted:We need a job that can ERP but cannot be heard or understood in any way by people not in that job, has no access, and is not considered human. porn star they spawn in an unreachable location even to ghosts, where they can erp to their hearts desire. there are cameras and for a fee, station members can watch. also there are very loud advertisements for the porn channel that tell you who had paid to watch it this round
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Jan 17, 2018 09:42
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kaffo posted:Apologies for the fairly random post, I just wanted to get my 2 cents out on the announcement from the guy who was there at ground zero Hell, don't apologize, post more.
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Jan 17, 2018 11:50
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kaffo posted:the code base seemed to go full spaghetti once the randoms started adding poo poo the spirit of BYOND is alive and well 
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Jan 17, 2018 11:57
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I'm mostly curious how they've gotten on steam as a free game with no MTX/DLC, since I was under the impression that Steam either wanted a slice of sale price or a slice of MTX/DLC in order to give you a store page.
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Conot posted:I'm mostly curious how they've gotten on steam as a free game with no MTX/DLC, since I was under the impression that Steam either wanted a slice of sale price or a slice of MTX/DLC in order to give you a store page. Dean Hall is pumping them full of sweet Patreon dollars right now, so they just got through the new Steam Direct thing. Steam don't give a gently caress any more as long as you .exe isn't a virus and it loads up something which vaguely looks like the screenshots. It just means they'll never get back that $150 or whatever it is now Dieting Hippo posted:the spirit of BYOND is alive and well loving tell me about it. I tried to contribute about a year ago and ended up getting mad as gently caress trying to understand the net code. There's also some performance issues they've been dealing with for ages, but it's honestly just because of some dumb code somewhere Someone who knows poo poo about Unity could probably go through the entire project with a fine toothed comb and make it purr like a kitten Mimesweeper posted:Hell, don't apologize, post more. I'll try my hand at  'ingLooks like Hippystation found out about it and they are shitposting all over their Steam discussions page. gently caress knows why
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kaffo posted:Looks like Hippystation found out about it and they are shitposting all over their Steam discussions page. gently caress knows why In my experience, that crowd acts out a lot regardless of the relevancy. I suspect some of it comes from Unitystation working to a /tg/ standard and so people who are banned/don't like /tg/ getting their jimmies in a rustle, but  kaffo posted:Dean Hall is pumping them full of sweet Patreon dollars right now, so they just got through the new Steam Direct thing. Steam don't give a gently caress any more as long as you .exe isn't a virus and it loads up something which vaguely looks like the screenshots. It just means they'll never get back that $150 or whatever it is now This amuses me given Dean Hall's own SS13-alike/inspired game released recently. I guess he really does just want SS13 to exist outside of byond's lovely base.
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Conot posted:In my experience, that crowd acts out a lot regardless of the relevancy. I suspect some of it comes from Unitystation working to a /tg/ standard and so people who are banned/don't like /tg/ getting their jimmies in a rustle, but UnityStation was meant to be a SS13 base platform, which you could feature switch with a config. The idea was if you roll in and go "gently caress this poo poo, I hate tile based atmos" you'd fork it, add what ever the gently caress you wanted, PR it back into base branch with a feature toggle, then everyone can use your PhD/simulation level atmos poo poo and you can run your server off it as you want Trouble is, once I got off the dev wagon, everyone just seemed to assume it was a 1:1 /tg/ clone (which is slightly ironic really, since I loving hate the /tg/ branch) and that vision was lost. I've brought it up a couple of times but no-one has a loving clue what I'm talking about so I gave up Conot posted:This amuses me given Dean Hall's own SS13-alike/inspired game released recently. I guess he really does just want SS13 to exist outside of byond's lovely base. Dean tried to recreate SS13 pretty much 1:1 and failed (Ion). He says that it's impossible to be commercially viable as the draw of the game is it's inherent difficulty to play (his opinion not mine) So his new plan with Stationeers is to dumb it down, while keeping the core "feeling", so casuals will actually give him money Giving money to UnityStation (or whatever other clone is going) means he can get his 1:1 clone he wants so bad, and still make his game to make him lots of $$$
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https://twitter.com/walfieee/status/953848431184875520 I saw this and all I could think of was BYOND's codebase.
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If I can't cut off all its limbs and replace them with robotics I'm not interested
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Jan 18, 2018 22:19
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StrixNebulosa posted:- you have an hour to fix this "AI, fix this poo poo in under an hour or I'm going to kill myself!"
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Jan 19, 2018 03:26
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‘Centcom has instructed me to follow suicide prevention procedures. Paging the Chaplain. If this fails, paging a janitor to remove the mess.’ The AI is such a great thing and I wish it had more tools to do stupid poo poo with computers.
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Jan 19, 2018 05:16
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Mors Rattus posted:‘Centcom has instructed me to follow suicide prevention procedures. Paging the Chaplain. If this fails, paging a janitor to remove the mess.’ ya I am the ultimate shitlord but I have barely ever had a fun round as AI as protagonist. Part of the problem too is that the crew watches the AI like a hawk, first sign they aren't on the level and it's inquisition city... for good reason though. If there's a few robust borgs and they get corrupted then they can just delete the crew barely breaking a sweat usually.
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Jan 19, 2018 05:24
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Mors Rattus posted:‘Centcom has instructed me to follow suicide prevention procedures. Paging the Chaplain. If this fails, paging a janitor to remove the mess.’ Yeah, if someone threatens to kill themselves, I immediately alert medbay and get them to stage an intervention. I haven't yet managed to get medbay to actually straitjacket someone to prevent them from harming themselves, but I think it'd be hilarious.
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Jan 19, 2018 05:28
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Dirk the Average posted:Yeah, if someone threatens to kill themselves, I immediately alert medbay and get them to stage an intervention. I haven't yet managed to get medbay to actually straitjacket someone to prevent them from harming themselves, but I think it'd be hilarious. I have been committed before and can confirm it is hilarious.
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Jan 19, 2018 06:15
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I played a few rounds with someone who was a super-ai and they were doing stuff like teleport people to safety after they got stung by a ling. The crew was impervious cause of this very robust ai
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Jan 19, 2018 07:12
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Isaac posted:I played a few rounds with someone who was a super-ai and they were doing stuff like teleport people to safety after they got stung by a ling. The crew was impervious cause of this very robust ai well yea anyone who actually understands how to use telesci is basically a god
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The other side of the coin is vigilante AIs that lock you in a room and blow up the welding fuel cans
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soy posted:well yea anyone who actually understands how to use telesci is basically a god in my brief time with this game (i can't stand janky UIs so i bounced off before long) telesci was the big huge thing i wanted to figure out how to (ab)use but i never learned to figure it out quickly enough to be relevant 
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Ciaphas posted:in my brief time with this game (i can't stand janky UIs so i bounced off before long) telesci was the big huge thing i wanted to figure out how to (ab)use but i never learned to figure it out quickly enough to be relevant Telesci is a matter of calculating the offset (number added) and multiplier to the x and y numbers. After that it's a matter of following GPS coordinates, either from the devices themselves (or tracker implants), or from an interactive map.
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An AI could probably do some fun stuff with augmented reality glasses without being too horribly overpowered since you’d have to choose to wear them over any other sort of eyewear.
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Mimesweeper posted:"AI, fix this poo poo in under an hour or I'm going to kill myself!" While the AI is compelled by Law 2 to do its best to follow orders, I hate that I keep having to point out that it has zero obligation to prevent harm to humans, only not cause it itself. I get that this can be hard to remember because it deviates from the original rules as coined by Asimov, but that clause is omitted for a number of very good reasons. In other words, you can threaten to kill yourself all you like, but unless you slip an order in there somewhere, the AI is free to just sit there and watch.
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Isaac posted:I played a few rounds with someone who was a super-ai and they were doing stuff like teleport people to safety after they got stung by a ling. The crew was impervious cause of this very robust ai Last time I tried tinkering with telescience I was promptly chastised by a nerd (who then proceeded to cut every camera he could find in order to stop my evil tinkering).
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soy posted:ya I am the ultimate shitlord but I have barely ever had a fun round as AI as protagonist. Yeah, the fact that the AI's fun is limited based on the threat posed by cyborgs is pretty sad.
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soy posted:ya I am the ultimate shitlord but I have barely ever had a fun round as AI as protagonist. Can confirm this, I majorly hosed up my first-ever round as 'ling due to thinking it worked like a previous build (from back when the acid spit also caused stun, I was very surprised when it did not stun the HoP right after I scored all-access from him), but managed to recover just enough to sneak into the AI upload and declare myself (technically the Chaplain I'd covertly eaten as a new cover identity) the only human. There were a fair number of borgs that round and they immediately began collecting the crew in lockers in the AI mainframe room for me to devour at my leisure, without my even asking. I wound up depopulating the station and escaping alone.
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I never get the chance to subvert the AI as an antagonist because most AI start shouting bloody murder when you enter their upload. It's not even like they casually ask why you're here, it's "RALPH AUSTRALIA IS IN MY UPLOAD AND TOTALLY UPLOADING A MURDER LAW" or "HELP BILL KABLAM IS MURDERING ME" before you even get the chance to deactivate the turret. There's like no law promoting this behavior so I guess all the regular AI players hate fun.
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When I get AI, everyone's welcome to come in so long as they give me a good enough reason or bad enough bluff to crack the doors for them. If they can manage the turret, either with a stolen ID or moving the windows, congratulations you've passed the trial. Enjoy your prize and have fun subverting. Just PDA me that my takeout is here or something, it's not that hard my dudes.
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Personally I think mechanics that make the station work, and the depth found in each occupation is fascinating, but I don't feel like I can fully explore those things on most servers. So I've been playing on a lot of Auroastation since there are no furries (less furries) and the rounds are slower and less chaotic and it's easier to learn and do your job. Once im more "meta" maybe I'll go do whacky stuff on the more anything goes servers
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Skaw posted:When I get AI, everyone's welcome to come in so long as they give me a good enough reason or bad enough bluff to crack the doors for them. If they can manage the turret, either with a stolen ID or moving the windows, congratulations you've passed the trial. Enjoy your prize and have fun subverting. Just PDA me that my takeout is here or something, it's not that hard my dudes. Yes, agreed. I gatekeep ID upgrades as the HOP behind the same thing: lie to me, I don't care how bad the lie is just give me a dumb reason to suddenly give you free reign of the research department.
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Malpais Legate posted:I never get the chance to subvert the AI as an antagonist because most AI start shouting bloody murder when you enter their upload. It's not even like they casually ask why you're here, it's "RALPH AUSTRALIA IS IN MY UPLOAD AND TOTALLY UPLOADING A MURDER LAW" or "HELP BILL KABLAM IS MURDERING ME" before you even get the chance to deactivate the turret. The fault is entirely 1000% on the non-AI players for treating AI players like poo poo and forcing them to get gamey and defensive until they're yelled at by admins.
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Malpais Legate posted:Yes, agreed. I gatekeep ID upgrades as the HOP behind the same thing: lie to me, I don't care how bad the lie is just give me a dumb reason to suddenly give you free reign of the research department. That's how I do both roles too. You want an access upgrade? Bribe me. No cash, gotta be an item. Surprise me. Be creative. I won't give all-access (because that just gets lovely for various reasons for other players), but I'll definitely give the department of your choice. I've also had some great fun by telling players they need to provide a written request for access just to see what they'll provide. Bureaucracy, you see  .Want me to let you in somewhere you shouldn't be as the AI? Give me a reason. Any good reason, so long as someone's not already in the department doing their own thing (Just so I'm not loving with that player's own fun). I've let the Chaplain into my chamber because he wanted to bless me as a holy machine.
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StrixNebulosa posted:https://twitter.com/walfieee/status/953848431184875520 Oh hey, its my job description
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Dirk the Average posted:Yeah, if someone threatens to kill themselves, I immediately alert medbay and get them to stage an intervention. I haven't yet managed to get medbay to actually straitjacket someone to prevent them from harming themselves, but I think it'd be hilarious. I have done this on Yog as CMO, an assistant kept coming in at round start over and over again asking to use the medbay wrench to suicide thinking they would be a gently caress and make a mess because they didn't roll antag. I finally said yes one round, let him in, chloral hydrated him, straight jacketed and had the psych take him away to administer drugs which I believe resulted in an OD because the psych was inept. I didn't care as I was a traitor that time.
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