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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

sure, but that’s the thing though. The affinity groups are separate organization from the electoral parties, as opposed to organizing under a single banter. WWP doesn’t seem to add anything to ANSWER.

answer is a psl affiliate and iirc the question of open organizing as a party as opposed to doing so through affinity groups was a big part of the wwp/psl split. the bigger point is the parties' activities aren't widely reported — and thereby, not widely known — for the same reasons communist party activities aren't reported fairly or at all in capitalist states

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WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/integrity_guy/status/953644026330341376

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
lmao

he has the best takes

https://twitter.com/Integrity_Guy/status/831507995540516865

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

R. Guyovich posted:

answer is a psl affiliate and iirc the question of open organizing as a party as opposed to doing so through affinity groups was a big part of the wwp/psl split. the bigger point is the parties' activities aren't widely reported — and thereby, not widely known — for the same reasons communist party activities aren't reported fairly or at all in capitalist states

fair enough

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
who are the people denying the rohingya genocide and why are they doing it? my local org is doing some outreach to the local rohingya and some rando yt sent us a weird message about it not being a thing.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Impermanent posted:

who are the people denying the rohingya genocide and why are they doing it? my local org is doing some outreach to the local rohingya and some rando yt sent us a weird message about it not being a thing.

My own experience with this suggests that one angle is that the Rohingya were never actually native to the Rakhine state, that they were instead "Chittagongian Bengali migrants" who came to Rakhine after the British annexed the region.

It's not a genocide so much as Myanmar repelling an invasion.

As to why, it's to justify continuing to do what Myanmar is doing.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/RedKahina/status/953445415986266112
https://twitter.com/RedKahina/status/953471662627938304

uhhhh why is this extremely online person denying that the Bosnian genocide happened? Is it because it makes Communist Yugoslavia look bad?

That kind of thing is usually from the mindset of (let's be charitable) "if a genocide could be prevented by a NATO intervention then it's more difficult to oppose interventions that aren't justified"

gradenko_2000 posted:

My own experience with this suggests that one angle is that the Rohingya were never actually native to the Rakhine state, that they were instead "Chittagongian Bengali migrants" who came to Rakhine after the British annexed the region.

It's not a genocide so much as Myanmar repelling an invasion.

As to why, it's to justify continuing to do what Myanmar is doing.

Also "Buddhism is a universally peaceful and loving religion that proves Islam is fundamentally flawed"

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Enjoy posted:

Also "Buddhism is a universally peaceful and loving religion that proves Islam is fundamentally flawed"

Spambot......

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Plutonis posted:

Spambot......

Buddhism is scientifically proven

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
the question about front groups is a good one I think. generally I'm very opposed to them, I think it's important to operate openly and with clear intentions as a party or formation. I understand why parties have used them in the past but I don't think theyre ultimately a good tactic to employ. its important to distinguish between front groups and coalitions however, coalitions are important and using front groups can often undermine real coalition building and work

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
I've also seen how front groups perpetuate problems that I think a lot of people incorrectly attribute to democratic centralism. they basically create like 2 tiers of membership in an org where theres the actual members who actually have the ability to make decisions and then a large number of front group members or membership adjacent people who are led to believe theyre memvbers and part of the democratic process but arent actually considered members for real decision making. a lot of fomrations who are dem centralist use front group tactics and so I think this problem becomes associated with democratic centralist party building but its really more a problem related to the use of front groups and an infrastructure which doesnt prioritize transparency and accountability which can exist in any system

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

it's... good that the US and France didn't intervene in rwanda

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
yea there's always been a big debate between whether a member of an org is someone who actively participates in a party organization or someone who acts under the guidance of a party organization

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

tbh i attend for the snacks

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Karl Barks posted:

it's... good that the US and France didn't intervene in rwanda

The Tutsi defeat of genocidaire militias is the most underreported comeback story in history, and Western media still has a weird bias against the Tutsi that I'll never fully understand.


gradenko_2000 posted:

uhhhh why is this extremely online person denying that the Bosnian genocide happened? Is it because it makes Communist Yugoslavia look bad?

The massacres in Bosnia were all committed by Serb & Croat separatists, and Bosniak militias. It had practically nothing to do with Communist Yugoslavia.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

I really liked the War Nerd's articles about the Tutsi

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The Tutsi defeat of genocidaire militias is the most underreported comeback story in history, and Western media still has a weird bias against the Tutsi that I'll never fully understand.

France outright supported the Hutu genocidaires too

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The popular idea of the Rwandan genocide is a narrative that doesn't have a conclusion. Everybody knows that there was a terrible genocide waged against Tutsis by radicalized Hutus, and maybe they've seen Hotel Rwanda, but the question of why it stopped never comes up.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I'm actually the leader and sole member of the Blazing Light Communist Organization (Fetontist)

We have book club meetings... in bed.

And by that I mean me reading books in bed.

Does anyone want to join the BLCO-F?

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

GalacticAcid posted:

yea there's always been a big debate between whether a member of an org is someone who actively participates in a party organization or someone who acts under the guidance of a party organization

:laugh:

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD
A debate that mainly takes the form of The Central Committee demanding vetting rights over your podcast guests.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Work Friend Keven posted:

A debate that mainly takes the form of The Central Committee demanding vetting rights over your podcast guests.

lmao

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

RIP the MMMK Path

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
syria thread gone so this goes here

https://twitter.com/EverySheriff/status/885862826664919041

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Something needs to be done about Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDX7Ul9Kx7A

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/RedKahina/status/953445415986266112
https://twitter.com/RedKahina/status/953471662627938304

uhhhh why is this extremely online person denying that the Bosnian genocide happened? Is it because it makes Communist Yugoslavia look bad?

The West said bad things about milosevic ergo Milosevic must be good and the bad things they're saying must be lies.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Milosevic was a more complicated figure than how he's popularly portrayed, and tried to end the war with an early peace deal that was rejected by the Bosnian Serbs. But he's primarily responsible for Yugoslavia breaking up in the first place, and should have been hanged by his ankles until his head popped. Milosevic and Yeltsin both caused the greatest humanitarian disasters of the 90s, and they both got to die escaping justice.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/dirtbagbrigade/status/952650820553728001

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
https://twitter.com/CIAGoFundMe/status/954388350051454976

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009
Can We Gain Followers If We Fear To Advance Towards Socialism?

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

lmao

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014


hell, same

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/comrade_celery/status/954430985101365248

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/meshuggeknight/status/954813053828239365

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umAt-tTxiW0

https://twitter.com/null_fruit/status/954399659103080453

https://twitter.com/cyberbrecht/status/954520725439832065

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lmao

Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.
can't wait to read about the story about how this is actually her twin. But not an identical twin. So they had to do work.... And they performed horrific torturous plastic surgery in an underground cave full of gross bats and dirty dirt. And the bats were malnourished dirty bats that were actually human beings that were subjected to dirty genetic experiments. And Kim is FAT

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Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

The cool part about Western media constantly crying wolf on North Korea is that North Korea is actually awful as hell but now people are starting to defend them and brush off real problems out of contrarianism

Sort of like how after a few exposed high profile false allegations in the current sexual misconduct media bloodbath, we'll just slowly loop back to "well that's what she says, but"

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