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What I’m getting at, the part that is ~mysterious~, is the “come back” bit. Given what we have in TLJ, this is just yet another example where the script of TFA is made retroactively dumber.
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I thought she was referring to Rey coming back to reality from her crippling abandonment issues
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Jan 18, 2018 19:40
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Jan 18, 2018 19:48
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Zoran posted:She says both. What Teek posted is an exact quote. Maz says there’s someone who still could [come back]. This comes to nothing. Wasn't she talking about Finn, who had just left, but was about to come back? As in, focus on the new family you have before it breaks apart on you?
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Jan 18, 2018 19:49
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Zoran posted:What I’m getting at, the part that is ~mysterious~, is the “come back” bit. Guess I'll have to disagree with you there. I think it's one of the lines which makes even more sense in hindsight after watching TLJ, it's given more weight in that it's Rey beginning to admit to the truth which she finally fully acknowledges in TLJ to Kylo. thrawn527 posted:Wasn't she talking about Finn, who had just left, but was about to come back? As in, focus on the new family you have before it breaks apart on you? Here's the full scene, at least accordingly to IMDB: TFA posted:Maz Kanata: Dear child. I see your eyes. *You already know the truth. Whomever you're waiting for on Jakku... they're never coming back... But... there's someone who still could.* The dialogue between the stars are lines which are directly/indirectly referenced by things Rey herself later says in TLJ. She's no one, she needs to move on and find belonging, she's felt something inside and she doesn't know what to do with it. The Force is guiding her to Luke, who will set her on the path to becoming the first of the new Jedi. Teek fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Jan 18, 2018 |
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thrawn527 posted:Wasn't she talking about Finn, who had just left, but was about to come back? As in, focus on the new family you have before it breaks apart on you? No, she was talking about Luke. The line immediately following is this: REY: (tearfully) Luke. And then if Maz was trying to make a point about how Rey has already found her new family, she could have corrected Rey. Instead she continues: MAZ: “The belonging you seek is not behind you. It is ahead.” And then she goes into her spiel about the Force. The scene says that whomever Rey is specifically waiting for on Jakku will never come back, but Luke could come back to her, and Rey needs to open herself up to the Force so that it will guide her. Maz also tells her she needs to take Luke’s saber. Teek posted:Guess I'll have to disagree with you there. I think it's one of the lines which makes even more sense in hindsight after watching TLJ, it's given more weight in that it's Rey beginning to admit to the truth which she finally fully acknowledges in TLJ to Kylo. I would agree were it not for the bit about Luke coming back, which makes no sense. Zoran fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jan 18, 2018 |
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Jan 18, 2018 20:03
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Zoran posted:No, she was talking about Luke. The line immediately following is this: Yeah I thought then this meant he was also her dad or uncle but I guess not .
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Jan 18, 2018 20:06
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Zoran posted:No, she was talking about Luke. The line immediately following is this: I think you're subconsciously appending "...to you" to the "someone still could [come back]" line Luke has still gone away somewhere he can "come back" from, and Maz realized that Rey might be the answer. Not because Luke is a figure from her past, but because she obviously has the force and her destiny has already led her to the Resistance and the lightsaber.
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Jan 18, 2018 20:26
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Maz has always been an idiot know-nothing character, and has yet to contribute information of any value to our heroes.
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Jan 18, 2018 20:32
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Maz and Luke hosed and Rey is their daughter
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Jan 18, 2018 21:06
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General Dog posted:Maz has always been an idiot know-nothing character, and has yet to contribute information of any value to our heroes. I appreciate that as much as she thinks "the only fight" is the struggle "against the dark side," she's too occupied with a union dispute to actually contribute anything herself.
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Jan 18, 2018 21:08
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Zoran posted:No, she was talking about Luke. The line immediately following is this: Oh, right, with that bit cut out I forgot about the context. My mistake.
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Man the Maz cameo in TLJ was the worst. She was basically Poochy, just popping in to remind everyone she was on a very exciting adventure right now fighting tons of exploding magic robots, and also she fucks, gotta go now, go find a guy on some planet who wears a flower on his lapel, he'll hook you up, byeeeeeeee
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"You already know the truth. Whomever you're waiting for on Jakku [your parents]... they're never coming back [because they're dead]" seems like the most obvious reading to me, and Kylo says basically the same thing more explicitly in TLJ. Luke could still come back and help the galaxy, but as established by the previous sentence he is not Rey's dad.
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Milky Moor posted:*rey sees an image of herself in the cave* *rey sees an infinite series of images of herself in the cave* *rey is part of a rey clone army +1*
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Man the Maz cameo in TLJ was the worst. She was basically Poochy, just popping in to remind everyone she was on a very exciting adventure right now fighting tons of exploding magic robots, and also she fucks, gotta go now, go find a guy on some planet who wears a flower on his lapel, he'll hook you up, byeeeeeeee she's also fighting against unions
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Serf posted:she's also fighting against unions It's possible she was on the unions side in the dispute
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Al Borland Corp. posted:It's possible she was on the unions side in the dispute maz is a small business owner so doubtful
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Does Maz have enough employees that they can form a union? Does he have other businesses besides her bar/castle?
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Serf posted:she's also fighting against unions The joke seems to be that the conflict Palpatine took advantage of to obtain power continues to be the priority issue of most of the galaxy even thirty years after his death, far eclipsing the actual star war.
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Jan 18, 2018 22:11
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NOOOOO (scaaaabs) - Vader
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Goffer posted:*rey sees an infinite series of images of herself in the cave* These may be crummy 4th-generation screen shots, but the shape she sees last doesn't really resemble her head that much, does it?  But what's the point in caring when the next movie might just forget all this?
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Man the Maz cameo in TLJ was the worst. She was basically Poochy, just popping in to remind everyone she was on a very exciting adventure right now fighting tons of exploding magic robots, and also she fucks, gotta go now, go find a guy on some planet who wears a flower on his lapel, he'll hook you up, byeeeeeeee Maz is just a limp character in general, and that bit is the worst part of TLJ
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J_RBG posted:Maz is just a limp character in general, and that bit is the worst part of TLJ Nah. "Stop them! They're very slowly getting away!" is easily the worst part and it isn't even close.
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J_RBG posted:Maz is just a limp character in general, and that bit is the worst part of TLJ I'd still say the space horse chase, which looked like something from the prequels but far less imaginative
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Timby posted:Nah. "Stop them! They're very slowly getting away!" is easily the worst part and it isn't even close. Isn't that a Simpsons joke?
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J_RBG posted:Maz is just a limp character in general, and that bit is the worst part of TLJ It’s up there. At least nothing is even close to being as bad as the monster ship in TFA along with Harrison Ford talking to those weird pirate guys What a terrible sequence that was
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Yaws posted:Isn't that a Simpsons joke? Yep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyIX3_yLaqk&t=90s
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Ema Nymton posted:These may be crummy 4th-generation screen shots, but the shape she sees last doesn't really resemble her head that much, does it? You're right, it doesn't   staring through the cloning vat, her first memory!
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I'd still say the space horse chase, which looked like something from the prequels but far less imaginative In general the space casino was disappointing. It just looks like a regular casino.
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Timby posted:Nah. "Stop them! They're very slowly getting away!" is easily the worst part and it isn't even close. So a slow ponderous enemy that will not give up and wear you down until you just can't run anymore is not interesting. Got it.
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I love how stupid the villains are. I dunno, that makes them more interesting to me. "What's the point of all of this if we can't catch ONE LOUSY CRUISER!!!"
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CelticPredator posted:I love how stupid the villains are. I dunno, that makes them more interesting to me. They should of just hooked up the laser door ram from the planet on the front ship or just build a death star laser on a space battleship. They clearly are lacking long range weaponry. This does give me an idea to work on.......
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I'd still say the space horse chase, which looked like something from the prequels but far less imaginative They're not horses!!!!!! They're intelligent Aliens that you didn't pick up on!!!!!!!!! "Wipes spittle from mouth"
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The more I think about this movie the more I think about Tron Legacy.
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Timby posted:Nah. "Stop them! They're very slowly getting away!" is easily the worst part and it isn't even close. Which part was this?
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In Japan, you can pick between Light and Dark Side screenings.quote:The two versions are delivered in the same theaters and fans have been split 50-50 on whether to experience the film from the light or dark side. The vibrations, tilts, wind, fog, strobe and other effects enhance differing aspects of the onscreen action for the light and dark side of the theaters. Light saber battles create differing reverb effects for the two sides, while the atmosphere will differ for scenes on First Order ships and Rebel bases.
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