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im probably the only other person to find that funny, thank you endorph
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Jan 20, 2018 06:05
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Jan 20, 2018 06:15
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not sucking a dick for 2011
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Jan 20, 2018 06:19
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Miki is asexual.  Endorph posted:yeah if you want to take miko's love as unrequited i get that, but there are people arguing the base premise that miko has any romantic feelings for miki at all which is kind of insane, to me. she pretty clearly does. My take on Miko / Miki is that Miko was clearly in love with Miki and resented how good she was at running, but loved her for her personality. Miki imo wasn't exactly closed to the idea of romance with Miko but by the time they started being honest with each other about their feelings, well, the house was literally on fire. Is it ever explicitly spelled out that either is homosexual, no, but it can be reasonably inferred based on their actions and discussions. Had they not died, it may become explicit but, I'm just a dude on the internet so what is my dumbo opinion worth ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ girl deds girls gay so wat
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Jan 20, 2018 06:23
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Is it indeed explicitly spelled out that either of them are homosexual because that's a girl telling another girl she loves her means
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Jan 20, 2018 06:28
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dogsicle posted:not sucking a dick for 2011 don't get ya nut bust don't get ya nut bust
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Jan 20, 2018 06:29
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Expect My Mom posted:Is it indeed explicitly spelled out that either of them are homosexual because that's a girl telling another girl she loves her means Yes but don't you see that because they don't mash clams together, they can't be gay op. I also hope it's clear that my response is tongue in cheek.
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Jan 20, 2018 06:37
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Jan 20, 2018 08:00
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Jan 20, 2018 08:01
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perhaps the real meaning of daisuki is the friends we made along the way
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Jan 20, 2018 09:21
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daisucky (tl: great sucky)
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Jan 20, 2018 09:22
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The great thing about this show to me is sometimes just looking at how wonky some of the shots are kind of make me break out laughing despite the heaviness of what's happening in a scene. Like, the scene in episode 7 where Ryo and Akira are talking and they just kind of look like undefined blobs, which looks especially weird w/ Ryo and his baggy white pants. It's the little things for me.
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Jan 20, 2018 09:27
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GimmickMan posted:perhaps the real meaning of daisuki is the friends we made along the way I only use subtext in my gay anime because gay anal sex is hot but having girls explicitly romantically love each other in a sin I am still amazed I got to see anal sex in a non porno amd completely played "straight", this gay anime was pretty good and it's had plenty of good conversations surrounding it, despite being far from perfect. Show could really have used 3 more episodes to digest some side character arcs.
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Jan 20, 2018 09:44
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GimmickMan posted:perhaps the real meaning of daisuki is the friends we made along the way The real crybaby all along, was you.
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Jan 20, 2018 10:14
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In conclusion, Japan is a land of gaynstrants.
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Jan 20, 2018 10:33
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Schwarzwald posted:Well, Akira certainly can't be the bottom. Akira is obviously a power bottom.
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Jan 20, 2018 10:39
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Akira has to bottom because Ryo is scared of Amon's monster cock
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Jan 20, 2018 11:10
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I encourage everyone in this thread to find your strong spider girlfriend and tell her you love her
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Jan 20, 2018 11:23
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Considering how often genitalia seems to grow teeth in this series that's a good reason to be scared.
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Jan 20, 2018 11:24
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Shoehead posted:I encourage everyone in this thread to find your strong spider girlfriend and tell her you love her worked out well for the last guy 
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Jan 20, 2018 11:38
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I read a few chapters of Devilman Lady I regret reading Devilman Lady.
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Jan 20, 2018 11:43
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Davincie posted:worked out well for the last guy i've decided to watch wasurenagumo
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Jan 20, 2018 11:59
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Raxivace posted:Considering how often genitalia seems to grow teeth in this series that's a good reason to be scared. *quietly patents cock armor*
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Jan 20, 2018 12:06
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I watched the Crybaby and I liked it overall. But why was there so much cat death. The one in the beginning, the housecat-turned-demon whom we have to watch die twice, and during the demon panic there was a dude stabbing a cat on social media. Do Nagai or Yuasa just loving hate cats or something? I know it's a weird thing to fixate on considering the ton of grotesque and awful poo poo in the series, but it really stuck out to me.
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Jan 20, 2018 13:37
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Shoehead posted:I encourage everyone in this thread to find your strong spider girlfriend and tell her you love her But then she might think that I just like her.
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Jan 20, 2018 14:03
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EgoEgress posted:I watched the Crybaby and I liked it overall. But why was there so much cat death. The one in the beginning, the housecat-turned-demon whom we have to watch die twice, and during the demon panic there was a dude stabbing a cat on social media. Do Nagai or Yuasa just loving hate cats or something? I know it's a weird thing to fixate on considering the ton of grotesque and awful poo poo in the series, but it really stuck out to me. It also makes the one cat that comes back as a demon all the more surprising. When the cat becomes a demon too, its when all of the oppressed are finally fighting back together. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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Jan 20, 2018 14:04
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So about the ending...was God's intervention triggered by Ryo awakening as Satan, or the fall of humanity? Because the time-loop theory (is that canon?) implies that God has a massive gruge against Satan and tries to destroy him everytime he notices his presence. Earth is just colateral damage. Having never read Devilman Lady, does Nagai explain the "resets", or is something open to interpretation?
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Jan 20, 2018 16:44
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i would disregard basically all the stuff regarding sequels
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Jan 20, 2018 16:56
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I haven't read any of these sequels, but if there are time loop shenanigans the whole visual of the characters running track would tie nicely into that.
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Jan 20, 2018 17:01
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Personal_Nirvana posted:So about the ending...was God's intervention triggered by Ryo awakening as Satan, or the fall of humanity? Because the time-loop theory (is that canon?) implies that God has a massive gruge against Satan and tries to destroy him everytime he notices his presence. Earth is just colateral damage. Having never read Devilman Lady, does Nagai explain the "resets", or is something open to interpretation? Well he appears to wait to see if something can stop Satan first, before hitting the reset button.
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Jan 20, 2018 17:37
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Personal_Nirvana posted:So about the ending...was God's intervention triggered by Ryo awakening as Satan, or the fall of humanity? Because the time-loop theory (is that canon?) implies that God has a massive gruge against Satan and tries to destroy him everytime he notices his presence. Earth is just colateral damage. Having never read Devilman Lady, does Nagai explain the "resets", or is something open to interpretation? The time-loop is Satan’s eternal punishment. He draws out his disobedient child and their legions, and then annihilates them in the moment of their victory, over and over again. There’s no higher goal, he just wants to hurt them for their betrayal. Crybaby doesn’t really go into that, but it’s at least not inconsistent with the events and themes in the show.
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Jan 20, 2018 17:54
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Raxivace posted:I think the cats are just a recurring symbol for persecution or suffering or whatever in general. Like the show starts with Akira wanting to help a cat while Ryo is content just to let it die. Its compassion vs. cruelty/indifference to suffering, and that idea just continues throughout the show in different forms. yes, but who is the cat gay for?
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Jan 20, 2018 18:19
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tithin posted:I read a few chapters of Devilman Lady How bad could it possibly be? I thought. Stupidly. I feel like my name is on a list somewhere now 
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Jan 20, 2018 18:29
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Condiv posted:yes, but who is the cat gay for? Food?
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Jan 20, 2018 19:01
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regarding the gay stuff: i think the show is extremely deliberately ambiguous whether it wants you to think of "love" as in "romantic love" or "love" as in "Jesus love." i would honestly say that the show does not really treat them as incredibly different things, and in fact goes out of its way to equate them, showing all types of love as equally valid and beautiful. i don't think this applies specifically to Miko and Miki, I think this is a general thing for pretty much every positive character relationship in the show where romantic love wouldn't be actively inappropriate.
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Jan 20, 2018 22:14
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Personal_Nirvana posted:So about the ending...was God's intervention triggered by Ryo awakening as Satan, or the fall of humanity? Because the time-loop theory (is that canon?) implies that God has a massive gruge against Satan and tries to destroy him everytime he notices his presence. Earth is just colateral damage. Having never read Devilman Lady, does Nagai explain the "resets", or is something open to interpretation? The time loop wasn't established until the Devilman sequels and pseudo-sequels, and it wasn't mentioned at any point in Crybaby. There might be allusions to it visually, but that's not enough to go on to assume it's in effect. Crybaby should be considered its own thing, and imo the ending thematically defies the time loop. At the end of the original manga, Akira is still alive for a bit and thinks about how the moon is the only thing that hasn't changed in millions of years. Satan's epiphany at the end is also philosophical and not emotional - he realizes that he was no better than God for wanting to exterminate humans and regrets his actions. But there's nothing to indicate that he's changed from being a hyper-rational sociopath, he doesn't cry. All the struggles in Devilman were futile because by the end nothing has really changed, and the outcome was inevitable. At the end of Crybaby Satan experiences all at once, agony, heartbreak, loneliness, all the emotions and regret which fully round out the human experience. LORD OF BOOTY posted:regarding the gay stuff: i think the show is extremely deliberately ambiguous whether it wants you to think of "love" as in "romantic love" or "love" as in "Jesus love." i would honestly say that the show does not really treat them as incredibly different things, and in fact goes out of its way to equate them, showing all types of love as equally valid and beautiful. i don't think this applies specifically to Miko and Miki, I think this is a general thing for pretty much every positive character relationship in the show where romantic love wouldn't be actively inappropriate. I think there's also an undercurrent which devalues lust as an important element of what gives romantic love value. At no point does anyone engage in a sexual relation with somebody who could be their lover. Sex is treated as a sort of ugly, violent, humiliating thing. Koda fucks some guy he doesn't care about before losing control and devouring him. Miko has sex with the photographer who only cares about how much he can exploit her. Silene draws in Akira under false pretenses and then Akira rapes her. A big element of Akira's struggle is overcoming his sexual urges for Miki so that he can embrace her fully as his sister. Koda didn't love Junichi because of the sex, he loved him for his camaraderie and the loss of it now that everyone is afraid of him. The problem with making assumptions about sexual coding of characters, is that their actual expressed sexualities are either incidental or detrimental to what they truly love. Pener Kropoopkin fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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Jan 20, 2018 22:19
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They should make a Devilman Lady sequel to this that doesn't suck, imo
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Jan 20, 2018 22:26
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:imo the ending thematically defies the time loop. The fact there is a second moon and the earth is back to normal says that is not the case.
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Jan 20, 2018 22:41
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The problem with making assumptions about sexual coding of characters, is that their actual expressed sexualities are either incidental or detrimental to what they truly love. Building further off of this, this is also why I think it's an important distinction that in Crybaby Satan is apparently intersexed without explicitly stating it. In the original Devilman Satan says he's a hermaphrodite because it sexually excuses his romantic love for Akira, and by not acknowledging it in Devilman it makes clear that the sexual dimensions of his relationship with Akira weren't important. The original throws off the question of if Ryo's love for Akira is truly gay by giving him a base sexual compatibility, but in Crybaby there's no question that it's gay love. MonsterEnvy posted:The fact there is a second moon and the earth is back to normal says that is not the case. The fact there is a second moon means that the world hasn't truly been reset, and that there's a persistent change between the cycles. In the Devilman sequels and pseudo-sequels, the world is basically the same even down to the historical dialectic with the same countries. Only the apocalypse is different. Pener Kropoopkin fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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Jan 20, 2018 22:42
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