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Quavers posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHoiLclXI2M&t=4985s Just me or those video times are off? 
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G0RF posted:Paul Younger is fighting the good fight and Godspeed to him. This is amazing. That Eurogamer article is amazing. I missed all of this. Too tired to post more right now but everyone should read this article and read G0rf's observations DISCO LANDO - you are only lying to yourself. Stop lying.
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Jan 20, 2018 09:30
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G0RF posted:Paul Younger is fighting the good fight and Godspeed to him. It´s all bullshit. The SC community voted with hands and ears to expand scope and continue crowdfunding. This guys has zero loving idea about ethics in business and game development. MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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Jan 20, 2018 09:33
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G0RF posted:Paul Younger is fighting the good fight and Godspeed to him. After reading this article, the final realization hit me. It's not as if I didn't already know this, but it truly hit me for the first time: Chris Roberts is going to take money until the moment CIG closes its doors. In fact, it's worse than that: he'll take money after the internal decision to close up shop occurs, but before the actual website goes dark. With the Crytek, and other, lawsuits looming, the danger for CIG to have a sudden collapse is quite real, and in stark contrast to Mark Jacobs, Chris will keep on taking that last backer dollar: all in bad faith; all because, in his mind, it's owed to him; all as tribute to himself. Chris Roberts: writer without words, visionary with no vision, taking every dollar he can lay his hands on from whatever source isn't holding onto it tightly enough. Because the world owes hundreds of millions of dollars to a man who reworks pre-alpha assets dozens of times, but forgot to create a game to put them in.
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Jan 20, 2018 09:41
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Scruffpuff posted:After reading this article, the final realization hit me. It's not as if I didn't already know this, but it truly hit me for the first time: Chris Roberts is going to take money until the moment CIG closes its doors. Wait until you realize that Ortwin is going to take money even after CIG closes its doors.
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Jan 20, 2018 09:45
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Scruffpuff posted:After reading this article, the final realization hit me. It's not as if I didn't already know this, but it truly hit me for the first time: Chris Roberts is going to take money until the moment CIG closes its doors. Dude has a custom edition Porsche. There's little more you can do to scream "pretend rich" than that. For anyone with any self awareness, it would be embarrassing.
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Jan 20, 2018 09:48
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VictorianQueerLit posted:It's really weird that the timeline of Derek Smart knowing something exists is so important to you. 
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Jan 20, 2018 10:48
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VictorianQueerLit posted:Nah what's weird is that when you criticize Derek Smart in any way you become a pariah to his entourage like some kind of mirror universe backers offended you said their game doesn't exist. Apparently in this giant crazy clusterfuck some topics are beyond reproach. It's really weird that you give a poo poo what anyone else thinks. Also how loving easy are you to troll?
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Jan 20, 2018 10:51
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Hobold posted:gently caress, derek was right about something. The only thing MoMA knows how to spin is the rings around Port Olisar, and even then they kept trying to get away from him and his nonstop talk about the latest asteroid belt he had purchased.
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Jan 20, 2018 11:10
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quote:Defendants intentionally breached the GLA by using CryEngine to market, develop, and incentivize funding for more than one game, thereby enriching themselves by millions of dollars without payment for such use.
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Jan 20, 2018 11:14
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https://twitter.com/xStew360x/status/954530727785312259
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Jan 20, 2018 11:19
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Judge: Mr. Roberts kindly show to this court how did you create the GLA with Crytek
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https://twitter.com/Camdoz/status/954493124058923008
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Jan 20, 2018 11:30
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SC defenders always seem to have bad spelling and grammar. Sad!
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Jan 20, 2018 11:47
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G0RF posted:Paul Younger is fighting the good fight and Godspeed to him. Mark is a straight shooter and tells the truth. He has had a few big backers withdraw and he told the community. He also told them it was fair and their right to do so and to not act badly against them, that he had to earn the trust again. That is how you handle poo poo.
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Jan 20, 2018 11:58
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Scruffpuff posted:After reading this article, the final realization hit me. It's not as if I didn't already know this, but it truly hit me for the first time: Chris Roberts is going to take money until the moment CIG closes its doors. And beyond. It's pretty clear by now that the internal strategy of the CIG directors has been to ride this thing down in flames, hide the Star Citizen IP in asset shelters, let CIG itself burn and then Phoenix with Cloud Imperium Rights or Holdings or whatever. Then Chris can start all over again without any backers breathing down his neck, certain that he'll produce the best drat space sim ever this time. It doesn't matter whether or not it can be done, just that Chris and co believe it can be done.
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Jan 20, 2018 12:02
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SomethingJones posted:Skadden's poker hand is most of the way to a straight, CIG's comedy lawyer is holding a double running buck-face with cheese and a deflated party balloon realistically - do they the 30+ million they would need right now to cover + legal fees. Then Crytek would have to have a man in the office to look over the books and code to make sure they are both getting the updates and royalties that are required by the gla. On top Crispo needs a second license and negotiate that for squib42. And I bet that wont be a cheap loving deal. That is only if Crytek want to play ball.
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Jan 20, 2018 12:11
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XK posted:SC defenders always seem to have bad spelling and grammar. Sad! I think you'll find that's a mute point 
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roflingstones posted:"I'm not a lawyer but" is the most convincing way to offer anything of value on this subject imo To be honest, every post starting with a variation of "I'm not X, but" just makes me lay my middlefinger on my scroll wheel and suddenly, the entire worthless post just rushes by, unread XK posted:SC defenders always seem to have bad spelling and grammar. Sad! I'd be more concerned if they had good spelling and grammar
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Jan 20, 2018 12:31
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Calling it CIG will go under after the case goes to court shitizens blame the conspiracy between Crytek and Goons for CIG's failure CR will start another project to which his loyal cultists will gladly follow him to it will be called Second Life: IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
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Jan 20, 2018 12:32
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Fortunately for us the judge isn't going to scam everyone with the possible results of the lawsuit for a decade so the backers won't be able to screech "NUH UH" forever on this one. AP posted:It's really weird that you give a poo poo what anyone else thinks. Also how loving easy are you to troll? To do this correctly you need to accidentally puppetmaster yourself VictorianQueerLit fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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Jan 20, 2018 12:37
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Loxbourne posted:And beyond. It's pretty clear by now that the internal strategy of the CIG directors has been to ride this thing down in flames, hide the Star Citizen IP in asset shelters, let CIG itself burn and then Phoenix with Cloud Imperium Rights or Holdings or whatever. Then Chris can start all over again without any backers breathing down his neck, certain that he'll produce the best drat space sim ever this time. The truly sad thing is that most likely he has been in preservation mode since about 15 or so when he know he couldnt make the game as promised. Now he is just making assets for his next game in an engine that can handle his vision.
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Jan 20, 2018 12:47
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Loxbourne posted:And beyond. It's pretty clear by now that the internal strategy of the CIG directors has been to ride this thing down in flames, hide the Star Citizen IP in asset shelters, let CIG itself burn and then Phoenix with Cloud Imperium Rights or Holdings or whatever. Then Chris can start all over again without any backers breathing down his neck, certain that he'll produce the best drat space sim ever this time. The interesting thing to me is how pointless all this was. According to Crytek, CIG got a cut price license deal for Cryengine, they could make SQ42 as long as it was launched from the Star Citizen.exe and not sold separately, had to keep Cryengine code under NDA, sought approval for third party contractors to use Cryengine (which Crytek had a reasonable duty to grant), had to use Cryengine for Star Citizen, with splash screen/logo and give Crytek bugfixes (which would just have been the changes CIG made to Cryengine, so a copy of the game code). CIG dispute some of that but both sides agree that there was no more money due to Crytek. So instead of just chugging along in their normal inept manner, Chris Roberts pisses Crytek off by refusing to call it Cryengine, "it's StaRenGine", sells SQ42 separately, removes the splash screen/logo and says they've moved to Lumberyard. What do CIG get out of all that? Selling SQ42 separately as a $15 gamepack won't bring in much money as all the existing backers had it already, you could have just increased the price of the existing combined starter packages. They get some publicity from (press release only) move to Lumberyard, but the media see it as an engine change which historically isn't great, so that's not all positive coverage. They get to appear at Twitch events, Amazon give them a stand each time and promote them in a few videos. Engine support switches from Crytek, who they paid for support, to Amazon who they didn't. They hired as many Crytek engineers as they could in the past so support shouldn't even be an issue. It's been a year since the public change so they've maybe been in contact with Amazon support for ~two years. This is Chris Roberts so he's probably fallen out with Amazon management by now and their engineers will not be bending over backwards to help. If they'd just stolen Crytek staff, shown code on bugsmashers and forgot to get (rubber stamp) approval for a third party, Crytek would likely have just thought they were dicks and certainly not gone to court over it. It was all pointless, pissing off Crytek far beyond stealing their staff didn't gain CIG any real long term advantage that I can see, none, ok maybe they have a cheaper game server cost deal but even that's doubtful. So now they have to settle with Crytek or discovery will open Pandora's box.
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Jan 20, 2018 13:09
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chris seems like a raging egomaniac and colossal rear end hole so this doesnt really surprise me
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Jan 20, 2018 13:12
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MedicineHut posted:WTF? If they gently caress with Bannerlord I'm afraid I'm going to have to put on all black and take a picture of me with an airsoft rifle
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Jan 20, 2018 13:15
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It's dead, Jim.
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hey CIG intern, let me explain something if you dont quite get it yet. Someone in skadden/crytek is feeding information to derek. This means any incriminating information on your company that is gotten through discovery will undoubtedly be posted on the internet. It behooves CIG to settle ASAP them moment discovery is granted, but please dont tell any of your higher ups at the company because that would stop the fun train
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Jan 20, 2018 13:22
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Crytekkin' across the puny 'Verse.
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Dusty Lens posted:Has anyone said 10 to 20 for the chairman yet Nice
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Sarsapariller posted:RSI: You can't sue us because it was CIG who signed your stupid deal! lmao forever the goose is smelling nice now
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Beef Hardcheese posted:
Yesssss hahaha loving idiots
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AP posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHoiLclXI2M&t=1688s That part was absolutely amazing to me. An IP "lawyer" who doesn't understand something as simple as an Exhibit that's part of a contract, makes whoever signs it, party to the contract. And get this, he is basically saying that RSI was party to Exhibit 4, but not party to the GLA. Even though the Exhibit is part of the GLA. It's not loving enough that the website, IP addresses, several assets etc, all bear the RSI name/brand, and which have access to CryEngine. This is why he isn't actively practicing law anymore, instead he relies on Patreon and $100 per video for income. Makes sense to me. ----------------
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CIG claiming their procedural planet is first of its kind and ground breaking just want to leave this "TECH DEMO" here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlKz6r1uCfw
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EminusSleepus posted:CIG claiming their procedural planet is first of its kind and ground breaking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyvH6ayhLwg stiill better than star citizen though
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EminusSleepus posted:CIG claiming their procedural planet is first of its kind and ground breaking Or Proland, which is a few years older, and whose source code is publicly available here : https://proland.inrialpes.fr/download.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvskrieOWPw
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Jan 20, 2018 13:58
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"I'm not a lawyer, but," I say as I commit the most heinous crime known to man on a little known platform known as "kickstarter" as I hit publish.
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PST posted:Non-practising lawyers from 3rd rate universities talking about areas of the law who aren't their specialties are one-step up from random people relying on wikipedia for their answers. 
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Man, the backers are really going to get their minds blown when the rantings of an internet lawyer prove to be largely false and the Feb 9th hearing ends in 5 minutes with a flat denial to the MtD and an order to get this shitshow really rolling with schedules for discovery and trial, etc. I wonder what idiocy we'll hear then. "This going straight to the Supreme Court!" "Judge is <vile racist slur>!" "The judiciary is rigged!"
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