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okay let's put this down to democracy quote this post if you think miko and miki are gay
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Endorph posted:okay let's put this down to democracy
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Endorph posted:okay let's put this down to democracy
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Endorph posted:okay let's put this down to democracy
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Jan 21, 2018 00:48
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Endorph posted:okay let's put this down to democracy
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They might be gay but it's not explicit
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Endorph posted:okay let's put this down to democracy
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Endorph posted:he literally said 'the' queer reading I literally said 'a' queer reading. quote:you know call me crazy but i think that statement might be problematic The core of their relationship is framed around track rivalry and their familial relationship. The relations between Akira, Miki, and Miko are of a childhood bond. Dryzen posted:I don't understand how you can talk about how your reading of it is being shut down when that isn't happening at all. People are getting upset that every time they try to imply a lesbian relationship between miko and miki you said they were just long-time friends and now that it's not sexual at all It's not definitively sexual or non-sexual, although I'd argue that Miki is asexual and doesn't have a sexual interest in anybody. All I said from the beginning is that the assumption a character must necessarily be gay because they said they loved a same-sex character is an overreading. I never said the interpretation that Miko is definitely a lesbian was wrong, I just disagree with it.
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Jan 21, 2018 00:49
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I think Miko is bi and she got friendzone'd
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Jan 21, 2018 00:50
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I'm trying to wrap my head around this but if you think that because miki is asexual miko liking her is not gay then holy poo poo please be not that please please please
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Miki rides Miko at one point. Like, come on. The only way this would be less subtle is if they 69'd right on screen. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Jan 21, 2018 |
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Jan 21, 2018 00:51
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Dryzen posted:I don't understand how you can talk about how your reading of it is being shut down when that isn't happening at all. People are getting upset that every time they try to imply a lesbian relationship between miko and miki you said they were just long-time friends and now that it's not sexual at all i said their trans reading made me uncomfortable and that was it. i just didn't get why there was such a commitment to deny miko being a lesbian or even just loving miki sexually/romantically, and instead saying she's a man so she can join the other male characters in this show that nobody has ever questioned the sexuality of. when it comes down to it, both readings take material from her sexual fantasies as shown in the show. so denial of one while raising up another is even more confusing.
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Jan 21, 2018 00:51
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Did you guys forgot when Miko masturbated to Akira's mega bulge Calling the bi erasure police right now
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Jan 21, 2018 00:52
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Endorph posted:okay let's put this down to democracy
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is track gayer than softball or is it the other way around?
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Jan 21, 2018 00:53
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everything is gay
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Dryzen posted:I'm trying to wrap my head around this but if you think that because miki is asexual miko liking her is not gay then holy poo poo please be not that please please please I didn't say that. That's not what it means. Y'all are reading things into my posts that just aren't there, which really ties into my original post about overreading.
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Jan 21, 2018 00:53
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If the issue is that we aren't able to understand your points after this many attempts to express it than maybe the issue isn't us but you
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Jan 21, 2018 00:54
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Endorph posted:okay let's put this down to democracy
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Jan 21, 2018 00:55
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Sorry about your thread OP
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Jan 21, 2018 00:55
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maybe when you try to imply that are people are only reading miko as queer because of a gaslighting effort, you shouldnt act all surprised when no one takes you seriously with "im not trying to deny/downplay that reading" and if you try to say that's a joke, well, those often reveal true feelings
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Jan 21, 2018 00:55
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im happy to report the results of the first devilman crybaby gaylection: Gay - 7 votes Tired Moritz posted:I think Miko is bi and she got friendzone'd NumberLast posted:They might be gay but it's not explicit Squallege posted:Sorry about your thread OP well, im happy to report that this show officially, inarguably has lesbian romance in it. thank you all for coming.
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In softball do the girls pat eachother on the rear end like guys do in baseball?
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:In softball do the girls pat eachother on the rear end like guys do in baseball?
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:In softball do the girls pat eachother on the rear end like guys do in baseball? no because that would be a queer reading
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Jan 21, 2018 00:56
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Endorph posted:ah, jill stein lmao, nice
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anyway, I'm glad there's good lgbt representation in Devilbaby Cryman, you don't get much in anime
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Jan 21, 2018 00:58
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Can't they all just be Bi and make everyone happy.
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Jan 21, 2018 01:01
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Don't asslight me
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RME posted:maybe when you try to imply that are people are only reading miko as queer because of a gaslighting effort, you shouldnt act all surprised when no one takes you seriously with "im not trying to deny/downplay that reading" No, the gaslighting effort is to make people believe that Miko is exclusively lesbian. The translation of daisuki as a word that has exclusive romantic connotations was wrong, and to insist that it still does is arguing in bad faith. Interpreting Miko as gay or bi is valid, and interpreting her as straight is also valid - as is the trans interpretation. There's a more complete reading of the material than the assumption that a character must be definitively categorized.
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Jan 21, 2018 01:01
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miko can love miki romantically and sexually and be a lesbian, or bi, or trans. i think the intent of focusing on the meaning of daisuki is to back that up, since plenty of people itt are straight up denying miko meant romantic/sexual love.
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Jan 21, 2018 01:03
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if i say my reading of daisuki was wrong will you never post again because thats a sacrifice im willing to make
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NumberLast posted:They might be gay but it's not explicit There's ansolutely evidence that Miki is straight
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:No, the gaslighting effort is to make people believe that Miko is exclusively lesbian. The translation of daisuki as a word that has exclusive romantic connotations was wrong, and to insist that it still does is arguing in bad faith. Interpreting Miko as gay or bi is valid, and interpreting her as straight is also valid - as is the trans interpretation. There's a more complete reading of the material than the assumption that a character must be definitively categorized. you are talking to multiple queer people, you are preaching to the choir. please stop assuming the worst
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Endorph posted:okay let's put this down to democracy
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Jan 21, 2018 01:04
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Daisuki is a pretty bad anime app, op
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:No, the gaslighting effort is to make people believe that Miko is exclusively lesbian. The translation of daisuki as a word that has exclusive romantic connotations was wrong, and to insist that it still does is arguing in bad faith. Interpreting Miko as gay or bi is valid, and interpreting her as straight is also valid - as is the trans interpretation. There's a more complete reading of the material than the assumption that a character must be definitively categorized. what the gently caress are you going on about people were saying Miko means I love you romantically and now youre somehow fixed on "exclusively lesbian"
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Jan 21, 2018 01:05
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Kinda wish we go back to your waifu is poo poo arguments
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Jan 21, 2018 01:06
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Tired Moritz posted:Kinda wish we go back to your waifu is poo poo arguments tbf regardless of everything else miki is poo poo
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Eh maybe we should take a break from Devilman Crybaby and watch another Go Nagai adaptation, perhaps one where this specific derail will be very unlikely to happen so we can all get along. Re:Cutie Honey
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