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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:its worse than i had imagined He is really struggling to, uh, describe any of this
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 09:07 |
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That explanation helps a lot, but it really underscores that this is now turbo high laser fantasy. Or, pretty much the opposite of the old world. Malign Portents seems to be an effort to turn the last regime's bad marketing decision lemons into warhammer flavored lemonaid, which I can appreciate on some level.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 11:50 |
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As the same guy more or less said in an AMA.Someone Else's Paraphrase posted:"Originally the Mortal Realms universe was deliberately broad and vague to allow the miniatures designers freedom, now the background team is crystallising that picture. To cover day to day life, how things are set up, etc, draw on the best bits of old Warhammer. New rules opportunities from the narrative such as the Free Cities." Which I understand as we kept it vague for too long and now we are working to fix that.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 15:43 |
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Because if you know anything about art or design, you know that near total freedom with few if any constraints, guidelines, or direction is actually a really good way to end up with a cohesive, coherent, and well-conceived piece of work.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 16:00 |
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You can do anything
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 18:58 |
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One thing I'm hoping for in Battletome Death is a rules pass for Nagash. His emphasis on summoning is cool and flavorful, but not really the direction they've taken the game the last few years.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 22:24 |
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:One thing I'm hoping for in Battletome Death is a rules pass for Nagash. His emphasis on summoning is cool and flavorful, but not really the direction they've taken the game the last few years. And not really useful in Matched Play which pretty much everyone plays.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 23:11 |
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:One thing I'm hoping for in Battletome Death is a rules pass for Nagash. His emphasis on summoning is cool and flavorful, but not really the direction they've taken the game the last few years. The Khorne, Tzeentch and Nurgle Tomes gave alternate summoning rules. They may do something like that for this. We should also get a lore of magic or two from the book so guys like Nagash will have even more spells they can cast. (And Nagash needs all the spells he can get, as he can cast 8 spells by default.) I am assuming we will get something like the Lore of Vampires, Death and Undeath. (And Undeath can replace Vampires if needed as they both focus on the same thing.) My curiosity is how the Allegiance Abilities will work. The Grand Host of Nagash I predict will focus on more or less a general death theme with some incentive to take Nagash. Then we have the Legions of Night, Blood and Sacrament. I assume all of them will have access to Zombies and Skeletons, but then I am guessing they will focus on a different type of unit. Maybe Mannfred likes Ghouls 'n Ghosts alongside Skeletons. While Neferata likes Vampires, and Arkhan likes Necromancers.
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 00:09 |
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With Arkhan as one of the build options for the Nighthaunt in the Malign Portents painting contest I’m guessing he gets the ghosts.
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 04:38 |
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New Malign Portents story is up: https://malignportents.com/story/to-truly-excel/ Definitely getting a bit more Grimdark.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 12:04 |
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Milotic posted:New Malign Portents story is up: https://malignportents.com/story/to-truly-excel/ Maybe this will put to end the idiots screaming "DEATHCASTS!"
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 15:51 |
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Milotic posted:New Malign Portents story is up: https://malignportents.com/story/to-truly-excel/ The interesting part of the story is that the reforging process is having a greater and greater impact on the Stormcasts. It mentions how the leader is no longer capable of pity because of how many times he had been through it.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 16:03 |
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AnEdgelord posted:The interesting part of the story is that the reforging process is having a greater and greater impact on the Stormcasts. It mentions how the leader is no longer capable of pity because of how many times he had been through it. Yeah, one of the cool bits in Shadespire is that the eternals are their hunting for shade glass because it can be used during reforging to prevent any loss of self. That they know about it and are willing to try that much of a Hail Mary to slow it down adds a nice bit of tension to the faction.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 16:09 |
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Yeah, one of the cool bits in Shadespire is that the eternals are their hunting for shade glass because it can be used during reforging to prevent any loss of self. That they know about it and are willing to try that much of a Hail Mary to slow it down adds a nice bit of tension to the faction. Plus it adds the idea that every single Stormcast is a few reforgings away from becoming a murderous psychopath which gives a much needed shade of grey to what was previously one of the most unambiguously good factions in Warhammer.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 16:15 |
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https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/516432058751777/ I was riiiiiight
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 17:18 |
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Hot drat, I was beginning to think the Dark Elf revamp was just going to always be a persistent rumor. Wonder what faction she's going to fall under, in the video she seems kind of anti-Chaos and Order doesn't exactly need more armies. Maybe Nagash's goal in Malign Portents is to bring her back to the realms?
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 17:30 |
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Milotic posted:New Malign Portents story is up: https://malignportents.com/story/to-truly-excel/ I am really glad they are leaning into what makes Sigmarines interesting. The idea that these heroes are sacrificing their humanity and identity to serve their God is a nice conflict. Seeing your old companions reborn but clearly missing part of what made them who they were is interesting.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 17:31 |
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Hot drat, I was beginning to think the Dark Elf revamp was just going to always be a persistent rumor. Wonder what faction she's going to fall under, in the video she seems kind of anti-Chaos. I’m guessing “Order, but generally anti-everything gently caress you”.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 17:32 |
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I mean Order =/= Good.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 17:41 |
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Sounds to me like "Slaanesh is still mostly dead and I have usurped their power get ready for Order Daemons and Cults"
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 18:01 |
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It'd be great to see Morathi and daemons on the same side of the table, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that happening under Order's flag. That said, I'm still looking forward to a massive spindly centerpiece model of her on a dark Pegasus.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 18:26 |
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From that video she's sounding real snake-y so maybe no mount.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 18:45 |
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Yncarne, but with four tiddies instead of one.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 18:46 |
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mango sentinel posted:Sounds to me like "Slaanesh is still mostly dead and I have usurped their power get ready for Order Daemons and Cults" Nah i'm pretty sure the dead god is Khaine, his shrine makes an appearance and their are several shots of Witch Elves and Daemonettes fighting. Plus Seraphon are already the designated Order Daemons.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 18:49 |
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Ya'll might like reading the Corum novels by Michael Moorcock, an old 70s fantasy series. They are a kind of predecessor to Planescape, having heavily influenced AD&D, which in turn influenced Warhammer and the Sigmar Mortal Realms. The Order vs Chaos formulation was the core of the books which D&D picked up on. In it, Order is represented as being "not good." Good is something you can do within the context of order or chaos, but the purest manifestation of Order is crystalline stasis, the holy police state, and a toxic inability for creativity. D&D definitely pushed order into the "mostly good" territory, and even though Lawful Evil is a thing most people don't seem to think of it as a manifestation of order. (In Moorcock's novels all the gods are pretty much insane assholes regardless of their affiliation with chaos or order.) So, you could imagine Morathi being Lawful Evil. Her son was more LE. She struck me as his CE bad side, with her pleasure cult. Maybe she's changed. If she's Lawful Evil, then she would fit within Order.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 19:23 |
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Morathi is being presented as a villain. Both her and Malekith have been presented as fairly evil in Age of Sigmar after abandoning the original pantheon so I have a feeling they won't side with Order or Chaos.AnEdgelord posted:Plus it adds the idea that every single Stormcast is a few reforgings away from becoming a murderous psychopath which gives a much needed shade of grey to what was previously one of the most unambiguously good factions in Warhammer. This group of the Stormcasts the Knights Excelsior have always been pretty violent and extreme in their views in lore as well. So the effect has likely only become worse in them over time.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 19:27 |
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GreenMarine posted:So, you could imagine Morathi being Lawful Evil. Her son was more LE. She struck me as his CE bad side, with her pleasure cult. Maybe she's changed. If she's Lawful Evil, then she would fit within Order.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 19:35 |
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That's the Horned Rat.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 19:40 |
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It's Malekith's hat IIRC.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 19:43 |
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moths posted:It's Malekith's hat IIRC. I think you're right, but Morathi also has a crown with the twisted horns and GW could easily slide her into the position. Hell, she says she's a "demigod" in the video.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 20:05 |
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What was that music from? I barely payed attention to the video because I was so distracted trying to place where I'd heard it before.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 20:07 |
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They should probably go in Destruction because that GA is empty.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 20:25 |
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Pendent posted:What was that music from? I barely payed attention to the video because I was so distracted trying to place where I'd heard it before. I swear it was from Dark Souls 2 but that can't be right
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 20:35 |
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Pendent posted:What was that music from? I barely payed attention to the video because I was so distracted trying to place where I'd heard it before. People have been saying Total War: Warhammer.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 20:53 |
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when the gently caress do orcs get new stuff
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 23:06 |
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S.J. posted:when the gently caress do orcs get new stuff I want orks with stolen kharadron skyships being piratey af.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 23:16 |
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SteelMentor posted:https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/516432058751777/ Not sure who that is but daaamn she mad.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 23:21 |
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If Morathi replaces Slaanesh, what does that mean for 40k? It's weird to have one god whose storyline is split. I suppose slaanesh was always somewhat split though.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 23:40 |
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GreenMarine posted:If Morathi replaces Slaanesh, what does that mean for 40k? It's weird to have one god whose storyline is split. I suppose slaanesh was always somewhat split though. Morathi is not replacing Slaanesh, full stop. Slaanesh being missing is the most obvious campaign set up in existence and has been since the launch of AoS, and a trailer about Greek Shadow Elves has done nothing to change that, especially since the trailer clearly shows Witch Elves (aka Morathi's forces) fighting Daemonettes. Most likely (if GW holds to their pattern) we will be seeing Slaanesh releases for 40k in the second half of this year and AoS releases for Slaanesh at the beginning of next year. Just like Nurgle and just like Tzeentch (Khorne was different but that was due to them releasing Khorne Daemonkin instead of World Eaters and his major releases happening during the End Times)
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 23:50 |
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# ? May 29, 2024 04:43 |
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S.J. posted:when the gently caress do orcs get new stuff They got a bunch of new kits right at the beginning along with fire dwarfs.
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