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I know this isn't a question with a sane answer but why does the turkish government hate kurds so much? Is it land, an ancient feud with a dumbshit reason or something of the sort?
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 04:46 |
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the great deceiver posted:hts = huge taco shits read this as huge taco tits and was very pleased
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 04:49 |
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Brother Friendship posted:it can be both and its only theoretical at the moment but increasingly likely to occur A plan to move in 30,000 US troops and construct a border fence through the middle of Syria isn't theoretical. Eox posted:I know this isn't a question with a sane answer but why does the turkish government hate kurds so much? Is it land, an ancient feud with a dumbshit reason or something of the sort? The Turkish government hatess Kurds because they refuse to be Turks, which was a big problem for them because most other Anatolian minorities were ethnically cleansed by Ataturk to make a Turkish nation-state. The Anatolian Greeks are all gone because they either adopted Turkish names and started speaking Turkish or they fled to Greece, but the Kurds are concentrated enough to resist forced assimilation. The Turkicization campaign was so thorough, that when France forked over a big chunk of Syrian coastline as a gift to keep Turkey from joining the Axis, they went in and renamed every Arab town and street with Turkish names.
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 04:50 |
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Eox posted:I know this isn't a question with a sane answer but why does the turkish government hate kurds so much? Is it land, an ancient feud with a dumbshit reason or something of the sort? they only hate syrian and turkish. Iraqi kurds are puppets on the americans and trained by the turks.
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 05:16 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Turkish government hatess Kurds because they refuse to be Turks, which was a big problem for them because most other Anatolian minorities were ethnically cleansed by Ataturk to make a Turkish nation-state. The Anatolian Greeks are all gone because they either adopted Turkish names and started speaking Turkish or they fled to Greece, but the Kurds are concentrated enough to resist forced assimilation. The Turkicization campaign was so thorough, that when France forked over a big chunk of Syrian coastline as a gift to keep Turkey from joining the Axis, they went in and renamed every Arab town and street with Turkish names. Turkey and greece are two especially fictional nations, created by the french and british to literal larp as classical kings.
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 05:17 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:A plan to move in 30,000 US troops and construct a border fence through the middle of Syria isn't theoretical. oh well
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 05:26 |
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnhudson/tillerson-calls-for-indefinite-us-military-presence-in?utm_term=.wxVaQV3WJ8#.sgW28zy97Aquote:Secretary of State Rex Tillerson unveiled an ambitious US strategy for ousting Syrian President Bashar al Assad on Wednesday that relies on an indefinite US military presence in the country, an insurrection within the Assad regime and a groundswell of support from the beleaguered Syrian people.
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 06:58 |
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Eox posted:I know this isn't a question with a sane answer but why does the turkish government hate kurds so much? Is it land, an ancient feud with a dumbshit reason or something of the sort? Turkey used to have a huge empire that got broken up after WWI, the last chunk of non-Turkish majority territory left is Turkish Kurdistan in the south-eastern corner of the country. The Kurds want out, the Turks don't want to let them leave.
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 07:02 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnhudson/tillerson-calls-for-indefinite-us-military-presence-in?utm_term=.wxVaQV3WJ8#.sgW28zy97A Ah yes, the sit back and wait to be greeted as liberators plan
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 07:07 |
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If they're relying on there to be an insurrection in the Assad regime, then what do they think the last 5 years were?
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 07:10 |
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Assad would win a free election
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 13:45 |
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Fallen Hamprince posted:Turkey used to have a huge empire that got broken up after WWI, the last chunk of non-Turkish majority territory left is Turkish Kurdistan in the south-eastern corner of the country. The Kurds want out, the Turks don't want to let them leave. Why do they support Iraqi Kurds? maybe it has something to do with communism hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 13:51 |
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https://twitter.com/reutersworld/status/953956572610416641
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 16:18 |
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HorrificExistence posted:Why do they support Iraqi Kurds? because by supporting iraqi kurds they can simultaneously take away support for turkish kurds and syrian kurds while also loving around in iraqi internal politics.
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 16:20 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnhudson/tillerson-calls-for-indefinite-us-military-presence-in?utm_term=.wxVaQV3WJ8#.sgW28zy97A
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 16:23 |
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Darkman Fanpage posted:because by supporting iraqi kurds they can simultaneously take away support for turkish kurds and syrian kurds while also loving around in iraqi internal politics. The Turks blockaded Iraqi Kurdistan as soon as Barzani tried to go independent. They "supported" Iraqi Kurds because they were getting cheap oil from Barzani. It was all about bizness
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 19:51 |
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k-k-k-k-kurd kurd kurd kurd is the word
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# ? Jan 18, 2018 23:43 |
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Just another normal day at the war https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/954387363677040641
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# ? Jan 19, 2018 17:36 |
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multiple twitter sources sayin Deso Dogg was killed lol
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# ? Jan 19, 2018 20:16 |
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The Turks are preparing an offensive against Afrin Canton, and have already started shelling cities with FSA skirmishing with the YPG along the border. https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/954483591521689600 https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/954454284380311552 https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/954369594105397249 Getting on the bus in Al Bab, one way ticket to Afrin. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 04:59 on Jan 20, 2018 |
# ? Jan 20, 2018 04:56 |
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I got 4 words to say about the middle east: Nuke Ankara, reclaim Constantinople. Peace
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 07:19 |
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syriasly?
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 07:36 |
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wonder how long it will take for insignia-less, turkish-speaking 'Syrian rebels' wearing turkish uniforms, driving turkish vehicles, and carrying weapons to appear in extremely turkish combat against the ypg commonly known as "the dirty donbass"
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 13:12 |
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Turns out that the butthurt turk rambling on about marching into a neighbouring country to murder kurds wasn't joking.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 13:21 |
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it was supposed to be the us that betray the kurds for geopolitical convenience not russia and assad who could have seen this coming
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 17:39 |
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the US is still betraying them, its just instead of a shakespearean washing-of-hands its more like even with a couple thousand special forces on the ground the actual leadership is apparently hoping if they cover their eyes for a week the SDF can be consigned to the great big wastebasket of nice ideas that didn't sugar out. which has to be just a faaaaaaaaaannnnnnntastic state of affairs for the special forces soldiers in question, to effectively be representing State's (utter lack of) local interests
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 18:05 |
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Brother Friendship posted:it was supposed to be the us that betray the kurds for geopolitical convenience not russia and assad
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 18:52 |
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Willie Tomg posted:the US is still betraying them, its just instead of a shakespearean washing-of-hands its more like even with a couple thousand special forces on the ground the actual leadership is apparently hoping if they cover their eyes for a week the SDF can be consigned to the great big wastebasket of nice ideas that didn't sugar out. I genuinely believe that it's up in the air and that the US sticking with the Kurds would be on equally as convenient and cynical as abandoning them. Israel and Saudi Arabia already view Turkey as hostile and it's been years since Erdogan has made a concrete move towards the West as he consistently joins Russia and Iran. I wouldn't say that its even odds but there is an outcome where the US sticks with the East Euphrates project and new battle lines take place in the Middle East. I wonder what will happen to Manbij. It's the same target it ever was and if a real attack occurs the US would be the power to intercede as opposed to Afrin being caught with the regime since the start.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 19:40 |
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The United States has more to gain from Turkey occupying those territories than the YPG, now that ISIS is basically defeated. Assad has more incentive to defend Afrin since the Turks could basically Turkicize it and there's not much they could do. https://twitter.com/AylinaKilic/status/954806929129463810 They're pretty much on their own. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 23:22 on Jan 20, 2018 |
# ? Jan 20, 2018 23:19 |
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/955004020069892097
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 10:44 |
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https://twitter.com/haskologlu/status/955013233995341825 They're calling it "Operation Olive Branch." https://twitter.com/ZeinakhodrAljaz/status/955006381777661952 Maybe it's just FSA. https://twitter.com/Acemal71/status/955000602639130625 Afrin is only about 40km wide. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 10:59 on Jan 21, 2018 |
# ? Jan 21, 2018 10:54 |
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https://twitter.com/GebeilyM/status/954823104102064128
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 13:23 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They're calling it "Operation Olive Branch." Oh hey that sounds pleasant
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 14:18 |
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they just heard america wanted to move in and decided to clear some room
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 14:40 |
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https://twitter.com/DefenseUnits/status/955097857610207232 These guys are badass
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 16:31 |
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ist happeninggdDD:D
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 16:40 |
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Frijolero posted:https://twitter.com/DefenseUnits/status/955097857610207232 They don't have as many resources or combat experience as the YPG in Rojava, but they've also had years to prepare for a Turkish attack. So long as the primary thrust is by Salafist FSA flunkies they've got a fighting chance.
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 18:46 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They don't have as many resources or combat experience as the YPG in Rojava, but they've also had years to prepare for a Turkish attack. So long as the primary thrust is by Salafist FSA flunkies they've got a fighting chance. without heavy weapons it'll be brutal but its still possible ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 18:47 |
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Breakfast All Day posted:syriasly?
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