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goatface posted:Maybe it got reported at some point in the intelligence rumours? Only way the game would think that, other than Grey forgetting a screenshot somewhere 
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Woodchip posted:So ive dumped all the Singapore reinforcements and aussies I toBurma. I’m sure I can totally hold Rangoon. I had a fantastic bit of luck defending Rangoon. I went all-in and had Hurricanes and all the tank brigades I could lay my hands on moved in. Singapore went as expected, and the IJA fought it's way to Rangoon. They had a big stack, my 44,000 or so troops were having a bad time of it. Convoys in started to take painful losses, so I decided I'd do one last shock attack as a spoiler, and then start shipping the best troops out. In what would come to eclipse Cannae as the most decisive battle in history, the Imperial forces in Rangoon sallied forth one last time. Intricate planning and individual initiative sent armoured formation ravening through the Japanese rear areas. Cut up, confused, and stripped of their leadership, the entire army corps, to a man, turned and ran.The whole drat Japanese death stack retreated. They lost all their artillery. It was a chase all the way back to Singapore, they could't make a stand without artillery support, to say nothing of the armor imbalance. Then we got to Singapore. Then this happened.  And a few weeks later the game ended because I'd done a First Year campaign as a misguided "learning exercise". With a couple more counteroffensives underway that I never got to play out.
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mllaneza posted:my 44,000 or so troops Is that just infantry or does it also include second-line troops? It's Jan. '42 in my game and I've got about 34,000 in Rangoon and its immediate vicinity, but under half of those are infantry. Are there many good armored units in India? I've got a couple armored units on the way in from Aden via Calcutta. The IJA hasn't started its offensive yet but land-based air is already starting to chop up my convoys pretty bad, even with the Flying Tigers flying LRCAP. Last week Betties sank a troop convoy carrying like 8 or 10 thousand British troops on their way from Colombo.
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We’re there any IRL examples of large numbers of troops perishing on a transport due to air attack?
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Ron Jeremy posted:We’re there any IRL examples of large numbers of troops perishing on a transport due to air attack? Do civilians count and/or evacuations? If so, yes.
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Bold Robot posted:Is that just infantry or does it also include second-line troops? It's Jan. '42 in my game and I've got about 34,000 in Rangoon and its immediate vicinity, but under half of those are infantry. Are there many good armored units in India? I've got a couple armored units on the way in from Aden via Calcutta. That was everybody. Push those armored units forward and you might get lucky.
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Ron Jeremy posted:We’re there any IRL examples of large numbers of troops perishing on a transport due to air attack? The Luftwaffe sank the HTC Rohna, a British trip carrying American troops in the Med, killing about 1100 people.
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Awww, and they expanded the airfield for you. :3
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Ron Jeremy posted:We’re there any IRL examples of large numbers of troops perishing on a transport due to air attack? A Japanese convoy to reinforce Guadalcanal embarked with 12,000 men. Under constant air attack, only about 4,000 made it to the island.
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Sounds like my convoy debacle was worse than just about anything that happened in the real war, then. 
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Ron Jeremy posted:We’re there any IRL examples of large numbers of troops perishing on a transport due to air attack? One of the most extreme examples was the Bismarck Sea debacle, where eight Japanese DDs and eight transports tried to reinforce Lae from Rabaul. They were pounced by B-25s and Beaufighters, which had just developed massed strafing and skip-bombing as antiship techniques. quote:The Allied Air Forces had developed new techniques they hoped would improve the chances of successful air attack on ships. They detected and shadowed the convoy, which came under sustained air attack on 2–3 March 1943. Follow-up attacks by PT boats and aircraft were made on 4 March. All eight transports and four of the escorting destroyers were sunk. Out of 6,900 troops who were badly needed in New Guinea, only about 1,200 made it to Lae. Another 2,700 were rescued by destroyers and submarines and returned to Rabaul.
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SolarFire2 posted:A Japanese convoy to reinforce Guadalcanal embarked with 12,000 men. Under constant air attack, only about 4,000 made it to the island. The Japanese used to pack their troops in like sardines belowdecks. A hot, cramped, stinking space where you have an average of 3 square feet to live in with hundreds of other troops and then a torpedo hits...
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The ungrateful IJA should consider itself lucky that in its magnanimousness the IJN even let them set foot on its glorious vessels!
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   These guys are literally one hex from Rabaul. Welcome the shooting gallery guys! This is also the largest convoy I've seen the AI put together, and seems to be a major troop transport – maybe an Invasion force, but it lacks any warships for bombardment.  It's a massacre either way!  They then sail INTO fortress Rabaul.  Some Allied commander is getting their rear end fired today.  Yes. You are seeing this right. This is a completely unsupported invasion of Rabaul.....  I was wrong. THIS is a massacre. We leave no survivors.  They go after our cruisers. No revenge for them this day.  Of course, after all this they have landed a single brigade of Kiwis. It's always the poor bloody Kiwis.   One of our subs takes some hits.   What can I say about today – even I would not have been this stupid.  That's 31 ships claimed today.  In other news, repairs on our carriers have begun.
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 "Allied Intelligence had earlier assumed that the IJN had pulled back naval assets from Rabaul to Truk, and that consequently there would be no surface groups to defend the invasion beaches."
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Good God, this is the sort of gently caress-up that leads to governments/generals falling.
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Is the AI unable to understand the concept of escorting? Wow. How long will it take for the Allies to replace those ships and the troops on them?
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Holy gently caress.
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The AI's performance in this game is doing its best to show just how rigorous 'Japan cannot win the war, even if I try as hard as possible to lose it' is.
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In this timeline, the US Postal Service is considered a branch of the military for all the letters they carry about troop movements (to the bottom of the sea)
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Wow. Perfectly timed with yesterday's discussion of troop convoy fuckups.
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Think there might be a bit of a spike on the old graphs this month, eh?
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How many destroyed and/or disabled squads does it take to translate into a single point? Because you just scored quite a few of them.
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Allied army loss points "only" went up by 54. Ship losses rose by 223 (matching the kill tally). Must have been a lot of supplies on those ships.
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Yes, I too am disappointed at all the fresh meat our boys won't be getting.
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Kodos666 posted:can these destroyed ground formations be reformed eventually, or are they gone forever? If so, then the allies will face a problem for the island-hopping yet to come. The units can be reformed in about 3 months, but they'll be empty containers slowly filling up with squads and devices from the pools. Filling a division will take months, even if all the neccecary devices are in the pools. The US gets a lot of replacements in the pools, for instance 80 USA Rifle Squads and 23 M4 Shermans per month now in 44. A US Army infantry division has 273 USA Rifle Squads, so losing a whole division would take out almost 4 months of replacements. Probably more than that in other device types like arty.
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What are the squad replacement rates per month for each Allied nation? I'm pretty sure it's China, USA, Britain, Australia, and New Zealand in declining order. Considering how many Kiwi formations that have thrown their lives away so far and the number of deaths by sinking I'd imagine that their replacement pools must be completely bottomed out.
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Woodchip posted:Reload, I bet the surface support shows up tomorrow. "Because the transports are slower than our warships, we'll give them a head start and then catch up to them. ... Where are my keys?"
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What an absolute catastrophe for the Americans. At this point, I’m amazed that any GI is willing to get on a boat.
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