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Tomarse posted:I've just tried roomstyler and have concluded that it is stupid because it measures all walls from their centres not on the faces so getting an accurate room plan into it is really hard. Yeah I think that's one of the issues with one or two of the ones I've tried. The only thing I really need it for is planning a bathroom remodel that is probably a decade in the future but it'd be kinda nice to have the whole house plan in digital form anyway.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:There are plenty of sanely-sized, non-terribly-built houses in your average suburb. What do you consider sanely sized?
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veiled boner fuel posted:What do you consider sanely sized? Depends on the size of the family, but generally 1000-1500 square feet wouldn't raise my eyebrows. I'm not trying to make some kind of proclamation about how much space you need regardless of where you're from, though; that size range is based on my own life experience. I'm sure some families would find that ridiculously lavish and others would feel cramped.
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Our 4-bedroom house is around 1300 sqf with huge closets and a generous front hall. No garage, no basement, no train room.
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Our 3-bedroom 1300 sqf house has moderate closets and rooms that are one or two feet short in some key dimension that makes modern furniture problematic. (Like, we're downsizing our queen bed to a full when we need a new mattress.) EXCEPT the front parlor. Which I use exclusively to drink tea in and sometimes have the ladies over for knitting & wine. That is the only room that seems to be designed to actually house the sort of furniture you'd actually want in that room. And I love my kitchen-- it's phenomenally efficient for as long as there's one person working it in. The 2-car garage is nice, though, plenty of room for an above-ground tornado shelter and a car still fits! Our house is from 1963, so that's part of it. I've been sticking to vintage furniture as it's generally smaller scale and that's helped. I really do love my Joybird sofa-- after it was done off-gassing, that is. Its proportions are much closer to the scale of the house. I really do love the layout, but I just need the exterior walls bumped out a foot in the living/dining and master bedroom. Or maybe not-- then I'd end up with a giant ugly couch that would swallow me whole in its over-stuffed-ness. effika fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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His Divine Shadow posted:I see this coming from urban people but have you considered that it's a matter of perspective? From my perspective it's the opposite. I think it's so nice to have a house, to have a yard that I can do things on my time, on my conditions, to have space, peace and quiet, nature is nearby, the kids are always playing outside during the summers. I enjoy this. To live in silence, to see the stars at the night, to live in a smaller, closer society that moves at a slower pace. Maybe this is depressing to you. What you're describing would be considered small town living in the US, and it's dying out from lack of jobs. The suburbs, especially around major cities, are a different creature.
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peanut posted:no train room. Where do you put your trains?
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PRADA SLUT posted:UK house sizes seem much more sensible to me than American, and it's mainly the American new builds that are just comically proportioned. Maybe I'm misunderstanding this but garage size is not considered part of home size in the US, so ownership of a second (or third, or 12th) vehicle (and a correspondingly larger garage) probably has nothing to do with average published "home" size. Unless maybe the person doing the publishing is using different conventions, i guess. Along those lines there are some fairly crazy houses in the US, in terms of garage vs living area square footage. Pretty sure a 1200 square foot living area with a 3 car 600 square foot garage is not uncommon at all.
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Oh yeah, the 1000-1500 number I quoted earlier didn't consider garages or outbuildings. Just the "habitable" space, which for a US home has to be insulated, heated (if necessary), and have electricity, water, and waste water hookups. I wouldn't say that a three-car garage is common, in fact I can't remember the last time I saw a house with one. Two-car garages aren't unheard-of, but at least where I live (California) most people just fill their garages with more random possessions (or convert them into workshops / utility rooms) and then park their cars outside in the driveway. My one-car garage has a nonfuctioning garage door. 
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I wanna do a sociology masters solely on garage size and usage. I lived in Alaska for 6 years and off the top of my head, where i lived, I'd say that the number of people that actually ever parked a car in their garage was only 30%, the number of people that parked 2 cars in their 2 stall garage was maybe 3%, and the number of people that turned their garage into living area by permanently shuttering the garage doors was probably 20%.
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veiled boner fuel posted:I wanna do a sociology masters solely on garage size and usage. I lived in Alaska for 6 years and off the top of my head, where i lived, I'd say that the number of people that actually ever parked a car in their garage was only 30%, the number of people that parked 2 cars in their 2 stall garage was maybe 3%, and the number of people that turned their garage into living area by permanently shuttering the garage doors was probably 20%. I lived in an old 1950's apartment building that had about 40 units but only 12 garages along the back, all in an neighbourhood where street parking is something people fight over. Garages in my building were $75 extra a month on your rent, and we were lucky enough to get one for our car. Every apartment came with quite a generous storage room as well, standard. I'd say about 50% of the garages in my building were simply full of typical suburban-house garage storage clutter. People were parking on the street a block away because they had bought some new furniture a year ago and stored the excess in their garage because they haven't figured out what they were going to do with it. People who had moved in from a house and had more furniture than they needed had piled it all up in their garage and just never wanted to deal with it. Some people that had lived in the building for 10+ simply outgrew their storage unit with their accumulation of thing and had to send their car out into the street because there was simply no other place to store all their junk. I just don't get it.
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Jan 20, 2018 06:02
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Y'all look at this ridiculous house.         this master suite tho   
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I'm lolling at the 14" analog tv mounted next to the in-suite waterfall sculpture. Everything else is amazing but I can't imagine living in something that pretty every day... maybe as an onsen hotel, though.
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I'm torn between thinking this is awesome and thinking it's terrible. Of course it's ludicrously huge for a bedroom, but I love those gigantic skylights, but would that maybe make it be too bright at night to sleep well? Obviously those kinds of practicality questions did not factor into the design of this house in the slightest. It really does feel more like a resort lodge than a place anyone would actually live in.
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Jan 20, 2018 06:35
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I love it and would gladly live there with at least five of my best friends.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I love it and would gladly live there with at least five of my best friends. Same. It's kind of dated in a horrible way but there' some weird charm to it for me. It reminds me of my distant uncle who was kinda rich [read credit card debt up the wazoo] so his house was pretty decked out with all the latest tech and designs the 90s could offer. Also, Tag yourselves. I'm the small duck army that obeys Queen Refurb! Quack!
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Jan 20, 2018 07:07
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I think that house has great bones, but the decorating is atrocious.
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Youth Decay posted:Y'all look at this Reminds me a little bit of this house with its indoor/outdoor rock outcrop, which was for sale and I would have loved to buy.   https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/7280662_zpid/globalrelevanceex_sort/39.564644,-119.762152,39.562091,-119.765996_rect/18_zm/ Hauling groceries 100 yards from the garage to the house would kinda get old though I'd imagine. 
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Needs a large-bore pneumatic delivery system. Big enough to ride in.
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cakesmith handyman posted:Needs a large-bore pneumatic delivery system. Big enough to ride in. What doesn't?
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Your mother.
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I will make an exception to my hatred of Words On Walls for this https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd_m4AOgyyW/
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cakesmith handyman posted:Your mother. I dunno, she needed a c-section for me. Delivery via pneumatic tube might have been more convenient at the time.
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Youth Decay posted:I will make an exception to my hatred of Words On Walls for this This kind of sentiment is how postmodern art keeps going.
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Oh gently caress. You know what I now need? A small vinyl sticker for my toilet that's 'R.Mutt'. Now that is some real and true wall word art. I wonder if that legit exists.
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value-brand cereal posted:Oh gently caress. You know what I now need? A small vinyl sticker for my toilet that's 'R.Mutt'. Now that is some real and true wall word art. I wonder if that legit exists. http://www.alexgarnett.com/product/conceptual-crap-toilet-sticker
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His Divine Shadow posted:I see this coming from urban people but have you considered that it's a matter of perspective? From my perspective it's the opposite. I think it's so nice to have a house, to have a yard that I can do things on my time, on my conditions, to have space, peace and quiet, nature is nearby, the kids are always playing outside during the summers. I enjoy this. To live in silence, to see the stars at the night, to live in a smaller, closer society that moves at a slower pace. Maybe this is depressing to you. I totally agree and look for all of this in my second home aka “camp”
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I think I just discovered that America and Canada don't have villages, which is a bit alien to me but you can understand how 20 colonists setting up on their own would have a bad time . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village A lot of European towns and cities are a collection of villages which have expanded so much the gap between them has closed. Some towns, like mine, haven't had the gaps close completely but for the sake of administration they are all part of the same town. The people living in the latter areas still consider them to be separate villages though.
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learnincurve posted:I think I just discovered that America and Canada don't have villages, which is a bit alien to me but you can understand how 20 colonists setting up on their own would have a bad time . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village Usually when expansions like that happen in America you get one of two outcomes A) the small town is consumed and effectively stops being a thing. After 20 years no one gives a gently caress that your suburb was once Davestown, but is now part of Hanksburg. B) the small town fights fiercely enough to continue to be it's own municipality that the larger town eventually surrounds it so you end up with like a 5 square mile patch of bullshit where I can't get Google Fiber even though the larger city has it right up the loving road. GODDAMNITHSDKJFSKDLFKSDLKFJSDKFJ!!!!
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What? That article doesn't just talk about villages in the US, it also links to Village (United States). I'm from New England and our history is basically exactly "20 colonists setting up on their own" and then expanding until they run into their close neighbors.
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Do you still have them in New England or has everything closed up now? I know, I know, America Big so what's normal one end of the country will be radically different the other end  .Edit: the English setting up villages in a place they named New England is the most English thing I've ever heard of.
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learnincurve posted:I think I just discovered that America and Canada don't have villages, which is a bit alien to me but you can understand how 20 colonists setting up on their own would have a bad time . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village I just...what? You think the US doesn't have settlements of a couple hundred people?
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I mean, we don't generally call them villages but they totally fit all the requirements of being villages we just call them towns or housing developments
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I said “I think” right at the start because someone told me they didn’t, which is why I asked. :/
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8one6 posted:Usually when expansions like that happen in America you get one of two outcomes It's funny but the small municipalities here in my region that haven't been gobbled up all perform better than the ones that were incorporated into bigger units. I think they went from being centres of local society, albeit small ones they were, into being periphery. And the people deciding about funds moved further away and cared less about this far away place. The small municipalities here formed a joint publicly owned company that has laid down fiberoptic cable since the late 90s, thanks to them I got fiber straight into my house.
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learnincurve posted:I said “I think” right at the start because someone told me they didn’t, which is why I asked. :/ Did he also tell you dogs can't look up
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Antivehicular posted:Did he also tell you dogs can't look up This one's true though.
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learnincurve posted:I said “I think” right at the start because someone told me they didn’t, which is why I asked. :/ Need to watch more American media for insight into our culture and lifestyle. Start with My Cousin Vinny.
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there wolf posted:Need to watch more American media for insight into our culture and lifestyle. Start with My Cousin Vinny. Then watch "Pink Flamingos"
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:Then watch "Pink Flamingos" Nah, too much time spent with those illegal baby mill people in their terrible urban environment.
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