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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
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On one hand Torrance is like a marginally less poo poo Daisley so I'm fine him being shat upon, on the other when you see the Labour video on the NHS which was genuinely emotional and very power this is just unbelievably petty and lame. Who even knows who Torrance is but people who already pay too much attention to politics? What's the Scotsman's circulation these days, 8? It's pretty childish but when your achievements are as uninspiring as the SNP's in government I suppose it can't be very easy.
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Jan 19, 2018 18:12
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forkboy84 posted:On one hand Torrance is like a marginally less poo poo Daisley so I'm fine him being shat upon, on the other when you see the Labour video on the NHS which was genuinely emotional and very power this is just unbelievably petty and lame. Who even knows who Torrance is but people who already pay too much attention to politics? What's the Scotsman's circulation these days, 8? I don't see you have to have any idea who Torrance is for the ad to work. Almost everyone knows someone who bangs on about politics at parties, it works on that level.
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Jan 19, 2018 18:18
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I think any party hosted by nationalists with SNP balloons and Nicola Sturgeon in attendance is bound to turn political at some point tbf.
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Jan 19, 2018 19:58
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Alertrelic posted:It's not about Twitter or cybernats, which is the source of the majority of that vitriol, it's about Labour's national message. In other words, what they are saying to the press, in Parliament and on the doorsteps. Despite the new leadership, the party still seems unable to articulate a positive, independent vision. The latest public services debate is a good example of this. Don't hold that kind of debate if you don't have a tax policy, particularly if one of your central criticisms of the SNP over the last two years was the lack of a tax policy. I guess what I was getting at is not so much that Scottish labour are great (and while I think a lot of the criticism is overblown, I'll readily admit there's much to criticise), but rather that there's a big difference between the critique you've posted here and the flat "gently caress Scottish labour they're just cunts" (and equally "gently caress the snp theyre just cunts" although frankly that one is far less common despite what coohoolin says) that's happens even in discursive spaces (like here, like the pub, like your mates flat, or wherever else you get you political chat fix) where sticking rigidly to a party line is downright loving weird.
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Jan 20, 2018 02:43
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forkboy84 posted:On one hand Torrance is like a marginally less poo poo Daisley so I'm fine him being shat upon, on the other when you see the Labour video on the NHS which was genuinely emotional and very power this is just unbelievably petty and lame. Who even knows who Torrance is but people who already pay too much attention to politics? What's the Scotsman's circulation these days, 8? Agree with all of this. When I first saw the video I thought it was pretty lacklustre, but it's had significant coverage (for a ppb, almost thought it was going to displace Leonards big push in Dundee today which would have been hilarious) thanks to the self-importance of the Scottish press. In particular, right-wing opinion columnists love to pretend they are strident, risk-taking journalists while they list Conservative party talking points and huff their own farts. They are due a gentle ribbing.
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Jan 20, 2018 11:05
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The National has led today on an idea for a ‘Celtic Bridge’ linking Ireland to Scotland. https://twitter.com/ScotNational/status/955193958367416323 Do we think this is a good idea? What are the chances of it being built? Personally I’d love to get the train to Dublin.
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Jan 22, 2018 17:08
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Pissflaps posted:The National has led today on an idea for a ‘Celtic Bridge’ linking Ireland to Scotland. Just for the sake of comparison, although I'm sure everyone here guessed already, the national poured scorn on Johnson's idea of a channel bridge. I'm sure this current story is based on rigorously researched journalism however, and isn't just some dumb thing that caused wild hilarity and back patting in the national's office
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Jan 22, 2018 18:20
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Funny to see the National pushing a unionist policy proposal."DUP 2015 Westminster manifesto posted:A feasibility study into a tunnel or enclosed bridge across the North Channel from Larne to the Scottish coastline.
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Jan 22, 2018 18:25
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How on earth would it "help solve post-Brexit border problems" ???
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Jan 22, 2018 19:29
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Lord of the Llamas posted:How on earth would it "help solve post-Brexit border problems" ??? We would be taken back into Europe for our own care and protection.
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Jan 22, 2018 19:46
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Pissflaps posted:Do we think this is a good idea? What are the chances of it being built? Personally I’d love to get the train to Dublin. As nice as it'd be to have a tunnel or bridge between both islands, there are many engineering challenges that stand in the way. For the Scotland-NI proposal, in particular, there's this in particular. Because of this, a longer tunnel or bridge between Wales and the Irish Republic might actually be simpler, and therefore cheaper. You can look at the Channel Tunnel to get an idea of how long it'd take before you can begin amortizing the construction costs. Keep in mind that the Channel Tunnel has a lot more traffic than an Irish junction would get, too.
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Jan 22, 2018 21:44
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Pissflaps posted:The National has led today on an idea for a ‘Celtic Bridge’ linking Ireland to Scotland. Jesus trying to imagine driving on a bridge across the irish sea in the winter
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Jan 22, 2018 21:53
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Cat Mattress posted:As nice as it'd be to have a tunnel or bridge between both islands, there are many engineering challenges that stand in the way. For the Scotland-NI proposal, in particular, there's this in particular. Because of this, a longer tunnel or bridge between Wales and the Irish Republic might actually be simpler, and therefore cheaper. wikipedia posted:The dyke has often been cited as a fun and informative thing to discuss at parties.  Also it apparently has a million tons of munitions in it, including chemical weapons...
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Jan 22, 2018 21:54
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I'm surprised at the negative reaction to this idea I'd love to drive to Ireland over a big bridge.
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Jan 22, 2018 23:11
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Happy Burns night everyone. Who is celebrating it the traditional style?
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Jan 25, 2018 19:10
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Gonna get one of these bad boys on the grill, extra crispy.
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Jan 25, 2018 19:16
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Washed down with plenty of this
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Jan 25, 2018 19:21
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It’s Burns night? That explains why I saw so many posh students in kilts on my way home from work.
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Jan 25, 2018 19:31
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Cock up your beaver, brave Johnie lad.
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Jan 25, 2018 19:41
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As someone who was dragged to the Burns centre by his evil Tory grandmother every time I went to Ayr I loving hate Burns.
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Jan 25, 2018 20:09
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Has anyone here ever addressed a haggis? And how much was the postage?
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Jan 25, 2018 20:12
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Lord of the Llamas posted:As someone who was dragged to the Burns centre by his evil Tory grandmother every time I went to Ayr I loving hate Burns. He was a good socialist, yer granny was thick.
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Jan 25, 2018 20:12
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The pipe playing at the end there is so drat good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-0Ls7BMYBE
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Jan 25, 2018 20:20
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forkboy84 posted:He was a good socialist, yer granny was thick. I'm certain that Burns would've hated the Burns centre.
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Jan 25, 2018 21:14
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I dunno, I mean for all that he was a republican and a proto-socialist he'd probably be quite down with national-romanticist tat as well imo.
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Jan 25, 2018 21:26
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Pissflaps posted:Happy Burns night everyone. Who is celebrating it the traditional style? We had haggis, neeps and tatties for dinner then went to see an underwhelming show at the citizens. So an evening of stodge and disappointment, which seems about as Scottish as you can get Niric fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Jan 25, 2018 21:56
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keep punching joe posted:Gonna get one of these bad boys on the grill, extra crispy. You don’t grill haggis
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Jan 25, 2018 22:03
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Cerv posted:You don’t grill haggis Agreed. Clearly you deep fry it.
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Jan 25, 2018 22:04
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Pissflaps posted:Happy Burns night everyone. Who is celebrating it the traditional style? Yes it was a lovely meal. And afterwards I got to tell the bf what’s in it
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Jan 25, 2018 22:05
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Pissflaps posted:Has anyone here ever addressed a haggis? And how much was the postage? You get that joke once. I didn't see you make it last year, so if you did I'm not counting it. I've not done it for many a year, and I should try and correct that next year, but when I was wee, we went to my grandparents house for Burns night, and I typically recited the Address to the Haggis.
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Jan 25, 2018 22:16
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TomViolence posted:I dunno, I mean for all that he was a republican and a proto-socialist he'd probably be quite down with national-romanticist tat as well imo. Some of his attitudes to women wouldn't sail too well these days either. "Burns, a form of student torture, much like Sir Welter Scott, that strapping fellow."
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Jan 25, 2018 23:02
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EmptyVessel posted:Some of his attitudes to women wouldn't sail too well these days either. Chor. - Green grow the rashes, O; Green grow the rashes, O; The sweetest hours that e'er I spend, Are spent amang the lasses, O. There's nought but care on ev'ry han', In ev'ry hour that passes, O: What signifies the life o' man, An' 'twere na for the lasses, O. Green grow, etc. The war'ly race may riches chase, An' riches still may fly them, O; An' tho' at last they catch them fast, Their hearts can ne'er enjoy them, O. Green grow, etc. But gie me a cannie hour at e'en, My arms about my dearie, O; An' war'ly cares, an' war'ly men, May a' gae tapsalteerie, O! Green grow, etc. For you sae douce, ye sneer at this; Ye're nought but senseless asses, O: The wisest man the warl' e'er saw, He dearly lov'd the lasses, O. Green grow, etc. Auld Nature swears, the lovely dears Her noblest work she classes, O: Her prentice han' she try'd on man, An' then she made the lasses, O. Green grow, etc.
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Jan 26, 2018 00:36
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^^^Not sure if that's supposed to be a rebuttal, but writing about how nice it is to spend time with "the lasses o" is not really indicative of a right-on attitude to women. Has the UKMT been purged?
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Feb 1, 2018 16:45
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EmptyVessel posted:^^^Not sure if that's supposed to be a rebuttal, but writing about how nice it is to spend time with "the lasses o" is not really indicative of a right-on attitude to women. Now fully rehabilitated edit: A UKMT splinter group calling itself the "Real UKMT" has emerged TomViolence fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Feb 1, 2018 |
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Feb 1, 2018 16:47
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Cheers. Couldnae see it when I looked.
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Feb 1, 2018 16:55
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EmptyVessel posted:^^^Not sure if that's supposed to be a rebuttal, but writing about how nice it is to spend time with "the lasses o" is not really indicative of a right-on attitude to women. Burns was bi, afaik, but the point is that poem was written as a political stance in favour of women's rights, a polemical paean that the clergy pushing against women's issues would have found quite distasteful. There's also this one. While Europe's eye is fix'd on mighty things, The fate of Empires and the fall of Kings; While quacks of State must each produce his plan, And even children lisp the Rights of Man; Amid this mighty fuss just let me mention, The Rights of Woman merit some attention.
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Feb 1, 2018 17:35
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Coohoolin posted:Burns was bi, afaik I'd be interested to know your source on this, since it's not something I ever heard about or came across when studying or hanging out with other 18th Century Literature postgrads and academics
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Feb 1, 2018 18:28
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Niric posted:I'd be interested to know your source on this, since it's not something I ever heard about or came across when studying or hanging out with other 18th Century Literature postgrads and academics As far as ive seen so far Coohoolin is a big fan of revisionist history.
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Feb 1, 2018 21:40
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Is this just based on how shaggable he looks in the Nasmyth painting?
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Aramoro posted:As far as ive seen so far Coohoolin is a big fan of revisionist history. Well, yeah, and I'm pretty sceptical, but I'd be legit interested in the source since I'm into 18th century literature way more than is healthy. Burns wasn't my topic and there's tons about him and his works I don't know, but unless there's a letter along the lines of "remember that time we shagged Davey?" reconstructing sexuality is going to be, at best, problematic and speculative. Curious to know where Coohoolin got it from though
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