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Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
It was the closing of the official forum that lead to the poo poo avalanche which overwhelmed Warseer and B&C in the first place as I recall.

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Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
Just gonna reiterate that faction-specific is the way to go - SA and the Independent Characters group on FB are the only place I'll go for generalized discussion, but most faction-specific forums, subs, or FB groups are pretty positive and helpful. Not saying there aren't any nazis but the discussion is so focused you'd never know.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer
It's funny, because AoS killing off huge swaths of WHFB players actually lead to the formation of The Grand Alliance, which as far as wargame forums goes is pretty drat awesome.

40k still has poo poo for forums besides here. My local group of players is big enough that we run a FB Messenger group which is decent too.

Proletariat Beowulf
Jan 7, 2007
I wish meat screamed as I ate it.
I used to follow /40kg/ threads fairly religiously because I'm garbage and I belong with the garbage, but I left that after some subhuman waste of food wouldn't stfu about age of consent laws. I migrated to a Reddit 40k Discord server, wherein another completely bonkers far-right cuntlord advocated charging child sex trafficking victims with prostitution.

I just wanted to talk about hams, but went to rage-lifting and working my heavy bag that day, reminded yet again that the worst thing about anything is the fans.


Deified Data posted:

Just gonna reiterate that faction-specific is the way to go - SA and the Independent Characters group on FB are the only place I'll go for generalized discussion, but most faction-specific forums, subs, or FB groups are pretty positive and helpful. Not saying there aren't any nazis but the discussion is so focused you'd never know.

You know, not once on the TyranidHive have I witnessed any scumfuck fantasizing about shooting up a Hebrew school, throwing bricks at a mosque, or correcting someone about "AHHKZZHKULALLLLY ephebephilia"; you are probably onto something here.

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Deified Data posted:

Just gonna reiterate that faction-specific is the way to go - SA and the Independent Characters group on FB are the only place I'll go for generalized discussion, but most faction-specific forums, subs, or FB groups are pretty positive and helpful. Not saying there aren't any nazis but the discussion is so focused you'd never know.

The ICs Facebook group is super civil, well moderated, and has people posting cool pictures of their hams.

Floppychop posted:

Anyone well versed in Black Templars lore want to give me color advice?

I'm trying to figure out what colors to paint the shoulders of lieutenants and captains. Standard marines I'm doing the classic white background with black cross and edging. I'm doing my vets and Sergeants as Sword Brothers with a black background and red cross and edging.

There's nothing explicitly written for Lieutenants and Captains (Castellans and Marshalls, respectively) - they're typically just white with the black cross. There is a Lieutenant conversion in the codex who has the white field and black cross with gold edging, but even Helbrecht (and every 'Eavy Metal Templar captain) has white and black with black edging.

Neurolimal posted:

I just want the Blood Ravens' kleptomania to become not only canon but factor into their wargear choices, maybe even a chapter tactic for commandeering gear

If I ever get around to building out that Primaris Blood Ravens force, I'm going to be using so many of the random chapter-specific power sword bits on the lieutenants.

Immanentized posted:

Anyone order a table from firmer terra? Curious to know what their processing time is like. Ordered last week and haven't received a shipping notice yet or anything.

It took a few weeks, then I got a shipping notification, then it was at my house. They were backed up after NOVA, but you can bug them for a status update.

Milotic
Mar 4, 2009

9CL apologist
Slippery Tilde
Daemon stratagems not applying to the CSM stuff is a shame. The deep strike one would be good on Possessed but I can understand the abuse potential. Little annoying it’s needed to be FAQ’d two weeks out but oh well. At least we have Psychic powers. Unless you’re Khorne. Really sucks to be them. At least they get to re-roll charges. It’d be awful if they had a terrible loci.

1K Sons preview - the warp flame gargoyles affecting friend and foe including the mounted vehicle itself is very 7th Ed Tzeentch - i.e. really bloody annoying GW. At least it doesn’t bloody give FNP. Everything else looks good. The 18 new powers are only actually 6.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

SRM posted:

If I ever get around to building out that Primaris Blood Ravens force, I'm going to be using so many of the random chapter-specific power sword bits on the lieutenants.

The few Blood Raven marines I've built so far have all used Space Wolves specific stuff. Mostly because that was what I had available at the time.
But I do have a bunch of marines waiting assembly that'll be using DA and BA bits.
So glad to see we're on the same wavelength there.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
do 1k sons still have that goofy unit that turns into two of itself when it's killed in 8th ed? If so, is its model still exclusive to the Silver Tower box set?

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Neurolimal posted:

do 1k sons still have that goofy unit that turns into two of itself when it's killed in 8th ed? If so, is its model still exclusive to the Silver Tower box set?

It's a Tzeentch daemon, Blue Horrors and Brimstone Horrors. They come in a box together. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/blue-horrors-2016

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Nice. my dream army for any game would be one composed of units that steal other units, and units that do gimmicks when killed. End goal: kill your entire army, end game with the enemies army :v:

Also, it's kind of weird how 40k daemons still have the same doofy look as fantasy daemons. I know warp time and whatnot but still.

Kabuki Shipoopi
Jun 22, 2007

If I fall, you don't get the head, right? If you lose the head, you're fucked!

Pendent posted:

I thought you meant enemy characters at first and almost had a stroke.

Oh, they can do that as well.



It doesn't have to remove all the wounds from a character, just enough to kill it. And granted, getting higher than the toughness on a single D6 really limits the characters this is viable on, but it's still a thing.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Horrors are pink, horrors are blue
Where there was one, now there are two

Mef989
Feb 6, 2007




Quick question about the Dark Angels Fallen, how much wiggle room do you have in modelling them? Do they still wear DA insignia or have they mostly fallen in with renegade chapters? The 40k wikis seem to leave it open enough to be either or both. I was just thinking it would be cool to kitbash CSM terminators with Deathwing and paint them up in their old black preheresy scheme, but don't know how fluffy it would actually be.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Mef989 posted:

Quick question about the Dark Angels Fallen, how much wiggle room do you have in modelling them? Do they still wear DA insignia or have they mostly fallen in with renegade chapters? The 40k wikis seem to leave it open enough to be either or both. I was just thinking it would be cool to kitbash CSM terminators with Deathwing and paint them up in their old black preheresy scheme, but don't know how fluffy it would actually be.
It is very open-ended. Any individual Fallen could be in pre-Heresy colors, have repainted his armor green to mock the Dark Angels, joined a chaos warband and mimicked their scheme, etc. What you're planning is totally fine.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
There's no organized group of Fallen, so it's the wild west, listen to your heart.

Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe
Painting up the last of my pink horrors, managed to get my hands on the changing and blue scribes. Couple that with my scratch built Lord of Change and I'm nearly ready to use my daemon allies.

Roll on 1ksons!

Deified Data posted:

Just gonna reiterate that faction-specific is the way to go - SA and the Independent Characters group on FB are the only place I'll go for generalized discussion, but most faction-specific forums, subs, or FB groups are pretty positive and helpful. Not saying there aren't any nazis but the discussion is so focused you'd never know.

I was posting on /r warhammet40k before it became a 'critique my paint job' forum. /r WarhammerCompetitive can be ok at times though. I still prefer SA for moderation.

Didn't the GW forums have a rep for being one of the most toxic hobby related forums before it got cyclone missleded? Utter tragic poo poo show was one phrase I remember...

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

MasterSlowPoke posted:

There's no organized group of Fallen, so it's the wild west, listen to your heart.

According to the Dark Angels codex thats changed, Luthor is out in the wild recuiting other Fallen into an army that is apparently starting to rival the legions of old in strength. Its pretty obvious they're setting up for a Fallen Codex

Still though even then there are plenty of weird rear end fallen all over the place who are still out on their own/joined up with other Chaos forces so its hardly like you need to be married to a particularly uniform color scheme.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
I think i signed up and used those forums twice circa 2001? I dont even remember what the users were like. They must have been pretty terrible to scare gw off of engaging with its customers until 2016.

Partial Octopus
Feb 4, 2006



So I'm getting back into 40k with some friends and picked up some Eldar stuff. Can anyone recommend what units I should be getting and which are generally bad ideas/traps?

So far I just have the start playing box as well as a wave serpent and some guardians.

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude

Corrode posted:

Horrors are pink, horrors are blue
Where there was one, now there are two

Dilly dilly

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Partial Octopus posted:

So I'm getting back into 40k with some friends and picked up some Eldar stuff. Can anyone recommend what units I should be getting and which are generally bad ideas/traps?

So far I just have the start playing box as well as a wave serpent and some guardians.

Eldar are in a difficult place model-wise. Basically almost all their infantry models are very old sculpts and/or only available new in GW's notoriously bendy resin.

Things that are both useful in-game and relatively modern designs: Wave Serpents, Fire Prisms, War Walkers, pretty much all wraith units. Jetbikes aren't super great in game but are good enough, they're new kits. Guardians and Dire Avengers are a bit aged design-wise but you'll probably need some.

For a lot of the aspect warriors, see if you can find them on eBay or any other secondhand way in metal. It's a lot easier to strip metal than go to the trouble of cleaning and un-warping GW resin, only to have it bend again the moment you put it in a case and take it out again.

(yes, I'm bitter. If you had to look at the perpetually droopy sniper barrels on a squad of eldar rangers you'd have issues too)

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

AnEdgelord posted:

According to the Dark Angels codex thats changed, Luthor is out in the wild recuiting other Fallen into an army that is apparently starting to rival the legions of old in strength. Its pretty obvious they're setting up for a Fallen Codex
I don't see the Fallen getting their own codex, it really wouldn't bring that much to the table, but I definitely see that plotline being used to bring back the Lion.

Arven
Sep 23, 2007

Big Willy Style posted:

I think i signed up and used those forums twice circa 2001? I dont even remember what the users were like. They must have been pretty terrible to scare gw off of engaging with its customers until 2016.

From what I recall most of the posts were people complaining about the cost of miniatures. And that of course was before the cut the number of models in the box by half/increase the price by 50% move they pulled years later.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

Safety Factor posted:

I don't see the Fallen getting their own codex, it really wouldn't bring that much to the table, but I definitely see that plotline being used to bring back the Lion.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a DA vs CSM campaign that with models for both. I can absolutely see Luther as a Huron Blackheart tier special character for CSM.

Also while I think about it, unless they release some sort of upgrade kit, this is the only acceptable Land Raider hull to use if you want your Custodes to ride in style.



Some conversion required.

Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jan 22, 2018

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer
Apparently the Custodes characters are $98 AUS each?

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]
I think I asked this before but didn’t get an answer: Is there any way to get waterslide decals for squad numerals 11-20 in the High Gothic white numbering style used by e.g. the Dark Angels? The Dark Imperium set has five 16s and everything else, including the third-party sheets from China available on eBay, only go 1-10.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
They've only gone that high since 8th edition. There might be a transfer sheet in the DA/BA boxes as they like that style but I have no idea, they might just come with the standard Ultramarine sheet.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

TKIY posted:

Apparently the Custodes characters are $98 AUS each?

£22.50 so whatever that is in moon dollars.

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
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MasterSlowPoke posted:

They've only gone that high since 8th edition. There might be a transfer sheet in the DA/BA boxes as they like that style but I have no idea, they might just come with the standard Ultramarine sheet.

Yeah everything is Ultramarine Roman numerals. I have plenty of those, but Raven Guard don’t use that font, and in fact kinda can’t use those transfers with their black armor and all.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

TKIY posted:

Apparently the Custodes characters are $98 AUS each?

Trajann is 60AUD unless you mean something else

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



I think a paywall is the grandest thing for weeding out the worst posters.

GreenMarine
Apr 25, 2009

Switchblade Switcharoo
The solid gold trumpraiders are pretty bad. An upgrade kit might help, but really they just need to not be solid gold bars on treads.

Artum
Feb 13, 2012

DUN da dun dun da DUUUN
Soiled Meat
Started painting in the blue on guilliman, stupid filigree.

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.
At GenCon last year I dropped by the GW booth as per tradition to purchase one each of all the event only models. I was informed that the Custodes guy was $75, and even after all these years of buying up any and every special edition thing they ever made that I could find, I just COULD NOT justify that one.

Thank you Gee Dubs, thank you for finally setting me free

Pendent
Nov 16, 2011

The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius
Grimey Drawer
I'm watching a Custodes video on Tabletop tactics and it sounds like the jetbikes with hurricane bolters are only 90ppm which is, uh, pretty terrifying.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

Reynold posted:

At GenCon last year I dropped by the GW booth as per tradition to purchase one each of all the event only models. I was informed that the Custodes guy was $75, and even after all these years of buying up any and every special edition thing they ever made that I could find, I just COULD NOT justify that one.

Thank you Gee Dubs, thank you for finally setting me free

Ixion Hale? I could've sworn he was available at Warhammer World for $50 US. High, but he's a chunky boy with a neat display base.

Felime
Jul 10, 2009

Lord_Hambrose posted:

I think a paywall is the grandest thing for weeding out the worst posters.

It really is, along with an actual consequence for getting banned.

Flyin Jim Elbows
Jul 10, 2008


College Slice
I have kind of a goofy question. Are Black Legion armies considered the vanilla and boring-ish chapter for CSM? I decided to go with them for my first army because I liked the color scheme and it seemed like I would be able to field a good mix of units with them, but now I'm worried I might be stuck with something that doesn't have a lot of flavor to it. I've considered switching to Emperor's Child, but most of the lists people are posting on other forums for them are just a swarm of Noise Marines and Sorcerers which would make the units I already have useless.

Two Beans
Nov 27, 2003

dabbin' on em
Pillbug
some more work on my Thousand Sons Dark Apostle conversion.

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Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe

Flyin Jim Elbows posted:

I have kind of a goofy question. Are Black Legion armies considered the vanilla and boring-ish chapter for CSM? I decided to go with them for my first army because I liked the color scheme and it seemed like I would be able to field a good mix of units with them, but now I'm worried I might be stuck with something that doesn't have a lot of flavor to it. I've considered switching to Emperor's Child, but most of the lists people are posting on other forums for them are just a swarm of Noise Marines and Sorcerers which would make the units I already have useless.

Black legion player here and in honesty you can go many different ways with the army.

Their legion trait is decent for the leadership boost, plus being able to advance and shoot is fun. They are vanilla chaos marine codex, but have it better than some legions (Word bearers for example) in the codex.

If your a fluffy player, your in luck if you want to bring a specialist legion unit (like emperor's children etc) as they can do so legitly. Comp-wise, units like Khorne berzerkers become insane when coupled with Black legion warlord trait (extra attack on a 5+ is something good). Also you get to bring the power house that is Abbadon.

Secondly if you want to collect another legion, any of the 4 big god armies fit perfectly but also allow you to duel collect (I refuse to paint my cult marines anything but their legion colours so I can run them as their own legion also if I wanted.).

Black legion are not Death guard or 1K sons, but they are dam decent. If they don't float your boat, just go Alpha legion.

Lastly, Black legion are not just a inversion of Ultra marines but they also have some dam decent lore (read talon of hours, one of the best CSM marine books I have read).

Hope this helps.

Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jan 23, 2018

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