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flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes

MOVIE MAJICK posted:

Are they ever going the region lock China?

they're doing ping locking which should have the same effect, just generalized.

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Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

flatluigi posted:

they're doing ping locking which should have the same effect, just generalized.

Did you see an announcement for that? Link?

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes

Hippie Hedgehog posted:

Did you see an announcement for that? Link?

https://twitter.com/PLAYERUNKNOWN/status/951635417262014465

Hulebr00670065006e
Apr 20, 2010

Hippie Hedgehog posted:

I very rarely get the guns that I need practice on in Pecado. :-)


I suppose at the last few circles you're up against top players, and getting killed by them doesn't hurt your ranking too badly. Assuming this ranking system is indeed based on ELO.

Check out op.gg for stats and how many points were added or deducted per match. You don't have to get that far in a round before you are in the positive and your rating is going up. It seems a bit like you can grind out a higher rank not by being extremely good at the game and winning all the time but by playing more games and just finishing in the top 1/4 or somewhere around that.

waffle enthusiast
Nov 16, 2007



Last night I got punched to death in a corner by the guy that entered the first building with me. I ran upstairs, had picked up a shotgun and was loading it.

:negative:

Drape Culture
Feb 9, 2010

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

The End.

Dangerllama posted:

Last night I got punched to death in a corner by the guy that entered the first building with me. I ran upstairs, had picked up a shotgun and was loading it.

:negative:

I've done this several times when dropping hot and someone snags the gun I ran to. It's that or be shot in the back running somewhere else once they finish reloading so...

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


Hulebr00670065006e posted:

It seems a bit like you can grind out a higher rank not by being extremely good at the game and winning all the time but by playing more games and just finishing in the top 1/4 or somewhere around that.

I'd have thought there's also a rolling average in there somewhere otherwise it would be trivial to write a bot that gets you into the top 10 globally by running 1000 games a day without firing a shot

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hulebr00670065006e posted:

Check out op.gg for stats and how many points were added or deducted per match. You don't have to get that far in a round before you are in the positive and your rating is going up. It seems a bit like you can grind out a higher rank not by being extremely good at the game and winning all the time but by playing more games and just finishing in the top 1/4 or somewhere around that.

Top 1/4 is a massive loss in points after a while. Even 1/10 can be.

NtotheTC posted:

I'd have thought there's also a rolling average in there somewhere otherwise it would be trivial to write a bot that gets you into the top 10 globally by running 1000 games a day without firing a shot

I'll be honest, I could probably write something that does that for any top 1000, maybe top 100 in some regions.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Stop bragging about your Top X% when your KDR is less than 2.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

But, they're playing the game optimally!

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Point being that I don't think you can get "top 10 globally by running 1000 games a day without firing a shot" with less than 2 KDR. The game doesn't tell you about it but it counts kills internally for your win rating. Beyond the "win rating + kill rating * 0.2" formula.

Hulebr00670065006e
Apr 20, 2010

Elentor posted:

Top 1/4 is a massive loss in points after a while. Even 1/10 can be.


I'll be honest, I could probably write something that does that for any top 1000, maybe top 100 in some regions.

I mean I'm around top 0.2 % in duos and I gained 1 point by finishing top 14/47 and 7 by finishing 9/43 recently. So I wouldn't say 1/4 is a massive loss in any way. Maybe when you get even higher?

Also concerning how much kills matter, it really doesn't seem to be that much. My duo partner has a K/D of 0.75 over the last 20 games and I have 1.80 but our overall rating is only 36 points apart.

Hulebr00670065006e fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jan 24, 2018

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hulebr00670065006e posted:

I mean I'm around top 0,2 % in duos and I gained 1 point by finishing top 14/47 and 7 by finishing 9/43 recently. So I wouldn't say 1/4 is a massive loss in any way. Maybe when you get even higher?

Think of it this way, you can't grind 9/43 your way into the top 10. The people in the top 10 can have a fairly high average match position, a big to gigantic KDR for the most part (I think there's only one sub 1.0 kdr guy right now in top 100 solo NA FPP) and a good chunk of victories. The guy in #1 gets 5 points from winning a match while killing 7 people. You'd probably get 10 times that. Somewhere along the road you'll start losing points. Since he didn't specify what high rank is I'm going with showing a # instead of a % in your profile.

Until they announce season rewards (if they do) what is classified as a high rank is pretty meaningless though. When they do the competition will be a lot harder, right now the vast majority of players don't care and it's very easy to get a high rank when 50% of the population have more loading/waiting than playing time from dropping on hotspots, and I think a lot more people would be alive in the mid-game if you got a huge glowing neon pink parachute from ending in top 5% or something. For what is worth I think kills, if they're gonna matter in your ranking, should matter a lot more than they do now as well.

Elentor fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jan 24, 2018

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




I want to say that top % garbage is off by a decimal point or two. For example, the game tells me that I have a .32% headshot percentage. We also don't know who is counted for that. Are players who've never played in NA counted for the NA %'s. Players that have played in the region, but not that mode? Banned players? Etc. That top % thing is obviously off by quite a bit, I mean there are guys in the "top 10%" with less than a 1 KDR.

At least with PUBGTracker, before, all of the %'s it were based off of were previously queried users.

Edit: We need someone brand new to the game to die right away in their first game, wait for the boards to update and then check their "top %". That's probably the only way to tell.

VulgarandStupid fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jan 24, 2018

dalstrs
Mar 11, 2004

At least this way my kill will have some use
Dinosaur Gum

VulgarandStupid posted:

I want to say that top % garbage is off by a decimal point or two. For example, the game tells me that I have a .32% headshot percentage. We also don't know who is counted for that. Are players who've never played in NA counted for the NA %'s. Players that have played in the region, but not that mode? Banned players? Etc. That top % thing is obviously off by quite a bit, I mean there are guys in the "top 10%" with less than a 1 KDR.

At least with PUBGTracker, before, all of the %'s it were based off of were previously queried users.

Edit: We need someone brand new to the game to die right away in their first game, wait for the boards to update and then check their "top %". That's probably the only way to tell.

I've never played teams only solo. Are the rankings separate for each mode?

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




dalstrs posted:

I've never played teams only solo. Are the rankings separate for each mode?

Yep

dalstrs
Mar 11, 2004

At least this way my kill will have some use
Dinosaur Gum

Someone should queue up with me later so I don't ruin some poor smuck's game when I suicide in.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


VulgarandStupid posted:

Stop bragging about your Top X% when your KDR is less than 2.

Conversely, stop saying KDR matters when you drop school every round, get 2 kills then die in 80th place.

willroc7
Jul 24, 2006

BADGES? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' BADGES!

NtotheTC posted:

Conversely, stop saying KDR matters when you drop school every round, get 2 kills then die in 80th place.

This is exactly what I do and I will fight anyone IRL with lower KDR than me.

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

VulgarandStupid posted:

Stop bragging about your Top X% when your KDR is less than 2.

NtotheTC posted:

Conversely, stop saying KDR matters when you drop school every round, get 2 kills then die in 80th place.

Only wins matter.

If you're 2nd place because of bad last circle luck get the gently caress out of here.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Dangerllama posted:

Last night I got punched to death in a corner by the guy that entered the first building with me. I ran upstairs, had picked up a shotgun and was loading it.

:negative:

i do this while admonishing them for stealing my gun over voice.

waffle enthusiast
Nov 16, 2007



So what's the optimal strategy for:

- Improving your gun play.
- Not dying < 50.
- Optimizing for actually winning.

Seems like dropping Pickle-town or School are too John Rambo, and dropping some random one-room farmhouse is too Ted Kaczynski.

Groovelord Neato posted:

i do this while admonishing them for stealing my gun over voice.

Sometimes I wonder what I'm missing by having voice turned off. Like, maybe I'd know where various countries rank?

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

Dangerllama posted:

So what's the optimal strategy for:

- Improving your gun play.
- Not dying < 50.
- Optimizing for actually winning.

Seems like dropping Pickle-town or School are too John Rambo, and dropping some random one-room farmhouse is too Ted Kaczynski.


Sometimes I wonder what I'm missing by having voice turned off. Like, maybe I'd know where various countries rank?

12 year olds screaming the n word over and over

I leave it on because you can occasionally catch some idiot who doesn't use push to talk and gives away their location

khysanth
Jun 10, 2009

Still love you, Homar

Dangerllama posted:



Seems like dropping Pickle-town or School are too John Rambo, and dropping some random one-room farmhouse is too Ted Kaczynski.


The answer is, of course, somewhere in the middle. I often won't even see another person/squad on the ground until there are fewer than 50 left alive.

John DiFool
Aug 28, 2013

Dangerllama posted:

So what's the optimal strategy for:

- Improving your gun play.
- Not dying < 50.
- Optimizing for actually winning.

Fight more.
Fight less.
Only fight when you must, and from an advantageous position. Avoid fighting when you're at a disadvantage.

speedtek
Nov 26, 2004

Let's make it out, baby.

BraveUlysses posted:


I leave it on because you can occasionally catch some idiot who doesn't use push to talk and gives away their location

This exact thing happened to me the other night. Dumb schmuck had his mic on so loud I could barely hear his footsteps over his keystrokes and breathing while he ran around. I just sat and waited for him to come into the room I was in and blasted him, fully expecting to get a barrage of "gently caress you I hosed your mother blah blah blah" but he just let out a long exasperated sigh. I felt kinda bad for him.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
I like sprinting around until I hear something then walking around until either they or I die.

Or if I find silencer mid to long range weapons, crawling everywhere like a loving Boss.

So far, topped out at #2 in solo after accidentally killing a guy in a ghillie suit (which owns) right at the start

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




NtotheTC posted:

Conversely, stop saying KDR matters when you drop school every round, get 2 kills then die in 80th place.

Who drops school? Are you some kind of grimmmmmmz wannabe?

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




VulgarandStupid posted:

Who drops school? Are you some kind of grimmmmmmz wannabe?

Nah it's just much more fun to drop in School, Hospital, Prison, Pecado, Hacienda, Sosnovka, etc, than to drop a kilometre north of Primorsk and play hiking simulator for 20 minutes. Who cares if you lose a 1v10 fight, just re-queue.

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Got my first kill with a motorcycle yesterday. Of course the PUBG gods couldn't let me just enjoy it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2rC7exL4CE

waffle enthusiast
Nov 16, 2007



John DiFool posted:

Fight more.
Fight less.
Only fight when you must, and from an advantageous position. Avoid fighting when you're at a disadvantage.

I mean optimizing for the combination of all three, in order of their constituent importance. I mean, I suppose I know the correct answer is "it depends" or "drop somewhere semi populated, loot, and kill when you have to" but I'm just curious if there's anything else I should be thinking about.

waffle enthusiast fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jan 24, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


cinci zoo sniper posted:

Nah it's just much more fun to drop in School, Hospital, Prison, Pecado, Hacienda, Sosnovka, etc, than to drop a kilometre north of Primorsk and play hiking simulator for 20 minutes. Who cares if you lose a 1v10 fight, just re-queue.

a game where i get 5-6 kills but die at 60th is always more fun than a game i win but got 2 kills in.

Arkangelus
Jan 23, 2007
Is there an easy way to distinguish whether footsteps are above or below you? For whatever reason its the one thing I have trouble with. Just based on pitch or..?

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 1967
Play however makes the game enjoyable for yourself and gently caress anyone who tries to tell you otherwise.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Arkangelus posted:

Is there an easy way to distinguish whether footsteps are above or below you? For whatever reason its the one thing I have trouble with. Just based on pitch or..?

i dunno if there's vertical sound i just always figure it out based on where they could've come from.

Cinara
Jul 15, 2007

Arkangelus posted:

Is there an easy way to distinguish whether footsteps are above or below you? For whatever reason its the one thing I have trouble with. Just based on pitch or..?

Not really, besides an educated guess based on the layout of the building and the type of sound the footstep is making based on terrain. Directional sound is pretty good in this game but vertical sound is really hard.

Matazat
Aug 12, 2011

Dangerllama posted:

I mean optimizing for the combination of all three, in order of their constituent importance. I mean, I suppose I know the correct answer is "it depends" or "drop somewhere semi populated, loot, and kill when you have to" but I'm just curious if there's anything else I should be thinking about.

My general strategy is to avoid fighting people who know where I am and I've had a lot of success with it in solo, duos, and squads. If someone shoots at you don't just peak back around the corner you ran behind, quickly and quietly move somewhere else where they won't be looking and then pop them.

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

Cinara posted:

Not really, besides an educated guess based on the layout of the building and the type of sound the footstep is making based on terrain. Directional sound is pretty good in this game but vertical sound is really hard.

I don't think there's vertical sound at all. You can sit at a 4th floor and hear people walking down the street no problem.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Arkangelus posted:

Is there an easy way to distinguish whether footsteps are above or below you? For whatever reason its the one thing I have trouble with. Just based on pitch or..?

Depends on the buildings. The apartments in Pecado between the arena and the casino are just a nightmare because the sounds come from everywhere for some reason, so a player walking around on the second floor sounds like they're on the roof above you.

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Soarer
Jan 14, 2012

I JUST CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S PONY AVATARS

~SMcD
Got my first chicken dinner via grenade. Take that laying in the grass ghilli guy!

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