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Yeah I mean Return of the King is a good movie but it's not 11 academy awards good.
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I feel like that was for the whole trilogy combined. I'm also sure Gladiator won because they really wanted to give it to the Insider but they couldn't, so whatever Russel Crowe was in the next year would get awards. I like Gladiator but its a dumb action movie, not best picture. Though I don't know why Braveheart won, its so nakedly full of poo poo and over wrought. Seriously, Braveheart completely destroyed the greatest battle the Scots won against the English at Sterling bridge by taking the god drat bridge out of it. It can't even get its dates right.
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Yes, Oscars take into account their social impact. Even accounting for that there's literally no reason Wonder Woman should be on a Best Picture ballot when Lady Bird, The Big Sick, Get Out, and The Shape of Water all come out within the same year. Socially impactful movies were not in short supply this year. Wonder Woman isn't even that "progressive" in its politics, people just rallied around it as some Progressiveness Vanguard because, well, first woman-starring superhero flick. But if you're gonna argue it has a deeper message (or even a quarter as deep message) than, again, fuckin' Get Out or The Big Sick, which are both movies that ended up having a much wider social impact and cultural relevancy/memetic popularity than WW (like both movies were made on shoestring budgets and made a ton of cash and were in the conversation way longer than anyone expected) just...lol. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Jan 24, 2018 |
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Wonder Woman's big thing was it was the first DC movie not to be terrible.
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:The Big Sick, which are both movies that ended up having a much wider social impact and cultural relevancy/memetic popularity than WW (like both movies were made on shoestring budgets and made a ton of cash and were in the conversation way longer than anyone expected) just...lol. Come on man.
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hiddenriverninja posted:Do awards consider social impact when nominating films? Paul Haggis' Crash didn't win (and then become a punchline) because it was a good film.
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I had to google that one because the Crash I've heard about was the one where people get off on car crashes, and I couldn't imagine that being on the Academy Awards.
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Samuringa posted:I had to google that one because the Crash I've heard about was the one where people get off on car crashes, and I couldn't imagine that being on the Academy Awards. It deserved an oscar more than the other Crash.
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No it won so homophobes could feel justified in not voting Brokeback while still feeling "progressive".
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twistedmentat posted:I feel like that was for the whole trilogy combined.
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Oh i forgot about Polaski's win. loving hell. Dude made like 2 good movies, but he's treated like he's some kind of genius.
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If I remember correctly A Beautiful Mind was directed in sequence,and if THAT is true, it 100% deserves its directing Oscar. Plus I love ABM sooooo
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Yeah, it definitely was. At the time, there was a lot of criticism that Peter Jackson was being snubbed for best director, since the awards for Fellowship and Two Towers had gone to Ron Howard, for the pretty but kind of forgettable A Beautiful Mind, and Roman Polanski, for exhibiting outstanding directing while successfully avoiding jail-time for rape. So when it came to Return of the King they kind of overcompensated. Robert Altman should have won for Gosford Park. (The other nominees that year were David Lynch for Mulholland Drive and Ridley Scott for Black Hawk Down.)
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And Amelie wasn't even nominated.
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Would proudly wear that to any movie premiere or hell, anywhere at all.
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Starring Robert Dwoney Jr.
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For years my pick for She-Hulk casting was Paget Brewster who is still absolutely perfect, but I've decided to update it to Lauren Lapkus. Thank you, as you were.
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I'm still hoping for Aubrey Plaza. I think she can pull off the timid/meek/unassuming to sexy/confident/badass ratio and she could do movies or Netflix depending on how they go. Her Hulk form would have to be CGI obviously but it really should be anyway, she should be unnaturally large and beautiful and it's hard not sacrifice a bit of one for the other.
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If they ever do a She-Hulk series I honestly want it to be an insane legal drama in the superhero world that has superhero stuff going on, but that avoids having Jennifer Rogers transform for like, two whole seasons. Just kind of vaguely refer to the idea that she's perfectly capable in a hero fight, or that you wouldn't like her when she's angry, and dance coyly around the idea instead of making it a focus of the show from the start.
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"What if we did a superhero show but coyly tapdanced around showing the titular character doing anything super for a couple seasons" sounds insanely dumb. Like it's bad enough that the Marvel Netflix shows constantly avoid naming any of the Avengers instead of constantly giving them nicknames like "the big green guy."
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Kai Tave posted:"What if we did a superhero show but coyly tapdanced around showing the titular character doing anything super for a couple seasons" sounds insanely dumb. Like it's bad enough that the Marvel Netflix shows constantly avoid naming any of the Avengers instead of constantly giving them nicknames like "the big green guy." Jennifer Walters, AKA She-Big Green Guy.
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Also I've never seen a show do the legal world correctly and I loving hate it as a lawyer. So please no 2 years of that.
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mikeraskol posted:Also I've never seen a show do the legal world correctly and I loving hate it as a lawyer. So please no 2 years of that. Law & Order outside the pat confessions scenes?
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mikeraskol posted:Also I've never seen a show do the legal world correctly and I loving hate it as a lawyer. So please no 2 years of that. Objection overruled.
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Kai Tave posted:"What if we did a superhero show but coyly tapdanced around showing the titular character doing anything super for a couple seasons" sounds insanely dumb. Like it's bad enough that the Marvel Netflix shows constantly avoid naming any of the Avengers instead of constantly giving them nicknames like "the big green guy." I have to admit, I'm way more interested in the "lawyer to superheroes" aspect of the character than her actually being one.
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mikeraskol posted:Also I've never seen a show do the legal world correctly and I loving hate it as a lawyer. So please no 2 years of that. You're just jealous that she can make objections by flexing big green muscles and you can't.
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Kai Tave posted:"What if we did a superhero show but coyly tapdanced around showing the titular character doing anything super for a couple seasons" sounds insanely dumb. Like it's bad enough that the Marvel Netflix shows constantly avoid naming any of the Avengers instead of constantly giving them nicknames like "the big green guy." She-Hulk thing is that she's a lawyer that takes metahuman case. Sure, they often involve people in need of a good punching, but that's just collateral.
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mikeraskol posted:Also I've never seen a show do the legal world correctly and I loving hate it as a lawyer. So please no 2 years of that. It's like you've never even heard of Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law
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Samuringa posted:She-Hulk thing is that she's a lawyer that takes metahuman case. Sure, they often involve people in need of a good punching, but that's just collateral. Yeah I know, but her thing is also that she chooses to stay in hulk form rather than her normal human form because she likes being big and strong. A She-Hulk show that spends two seasons teasing at her transforming but never actually showing it misses the point in a big way.
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Unmature posted:For years my pick for She-Hulk casting was Paget Brewster who is still absolutely perfect, but I've decided to update it to Lauren Lapkus. I remember a few years ago Angie Harmon was on Conan O'Brien's show where she said she'd like to play She-Hulk.
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Kai Tave posted:"What if we did a superhero show but coyly tapdanced around showing the titular character doing anything super for a couple seasons" sounds insanely dumb. They kinda did that with Agents of SHIELD and it was pretty good.
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Kai Tave posted:"What if we did a superhero show but coyly tapdanced around showing the titular character doing anything super for a couple seasons" sounds insanely dumb. Like it's bad enough that the Marvel Netflix shows constantly avoid naming any of the Avengers instead of constantly giving them nicknames like "the big green guy." Let me tell you about a show called Smallville.
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The super speed segments were generally pretty cool and they managed to squeeze those in just about every episode at least. And Allison Mack was crazy hot. Now she's the leader of a dangerous sex cult!
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https://twitter.com/VinnieMancuso1/status/955824103491031041
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Jamesman posted:They kinda did that with Agents of SHIELD and it was pretty good. People keep saying Agents of SHIELD got better after the first season but the first season was so utterly dull that I've never felt the urge to see if it's true or just some longform practical joke that took on a life of its own. I'm not sure I would hold it up as an example to follow, is what I'm saying.
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hiddenriverninja posted:how far did you get in Smallville before you realized it would never get better? Series finale credits.
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Kai Tave posted:People keep saying Agents of SHIELD got better after the first season but the first season was so utterly dull that I've never felt the urge to see if it's true or just some longform practical joke that took on a life of its own. I'm not sure I would hold it up as an example to follow, is what I'm saying. It's better and mostly watchable. Gets pretty over rated here though.
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