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mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

rt4 posted:

I used to spend several hours a day scrolling horrible opinions on Facebook. Several attempts at staying logged-out failed for me until I blocked it in my hosts file. :feelsgood:

Remove Facebook from my phone and logged out of all but one computer at home that's used for non-work vidja games stuff. 2FA enabled that requires me to dig out my stupid kees if I want to login anywhere else. Has greatly improved my personal happiness.

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Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



mrmcd posted:

Remove Facebook from my phone and logged out of all but one computer at home that's used for non-work vidja games stuff. 2FA enabled that requires me to dig out my stupid kees if I want to login anywhere else. Has greatly improved my personal happiness.

Probably your phone's battery life, too, if my experience generalizes.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

rt4 posted:

I used to spend several hours a day scrolling horrible opinions on Facebook. Several attempts at staying logged-out failed for me until I blocked it in my hosts file. :feelsgood:

There’s a neat OS X app called Self Control where you set a timer and it plays with some lower than normal level routing things to make it so you can’t reach a set of sites you set up until the time is up. No matter what you try. I usually just run it for an hour a few times a day and when it stops take a 10 minute break to hit the stupid sites.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

But what if someone on the internet posts something that is WRONG? I won't be there to correct them :ohdear:

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Hughlander posted:

There’s a neat OS X app called Self Control where you set a timer and it plays with some lower than normal level routing things to make it so you can’t reach a set of sites you set up until the time is up. No matter what you try. I usually just run it for an hour a few times a day and when it stops take a 10 minute break to hit the stupid sites.

The problem with that is when I'm working I have three computers turned on plus a phone, so there's almost always a way around it.

B-Nasty
May 25, 2005

Jaded Burnout posted:

The problem with that is when I'm working I have three computers turned on plus a phone, so there's almost always a way around it.

I set up a time-based rule in my firewall to block outgoing LAN connections to time wasting bullshit (e.g. reddit)

Logging into the router is usually enough of a hurdle to stop my compulsive clicking, but I suppose if it wasn't, I could always delete the router p/w from Keepass and write it on paper in my physical safe.

Roadie
Jun 30, 2013
For talk of time tracking, I've worked for a company that did internal time tracking of everything for billing purposes to outside clients. The emphasis was "for billing purposes", though, so the bossman didn't need or want anything more specific than hour blocks at a time and for things to roughly correspond to estimates given to clients, which all worked out pretty well.

minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender

Jaded Burnout posted:

The problem with that is when I'm working I have three computers turned on plus a phone, so there's almost always a way around it.

https://freedom.to/ supposedly works across all your devices, but it's a monthly subscription, I haven't tried it.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


minato posted:

https://freedom.to/ supposedly works across all your devices, but it's a monthly subscription, I haven't tried it.

That's interesting but yeah that subscription.. Maybe I'll try to do a thing once I have more sophisticated switches in my home office.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.

Good Will Hrunting posted:

The last time I spoke with HR about a team switch, they asked how I liked our new lead (not the boss-man who is a toxic tool obviously, the cool new guy). I championed his cause as aggressively hard as I could and had a long, long chat about how great of a tech manager and leader I could see him being. Turns out, the plan was always to install him as the manager of my team and transition bad boss baby away to a "different role". I heard whispers that it's going to happen very, very shortly.. talking weeks. :woop:

Got the confidential scoop from senior mate who tried to transfer off the team and not shocking but complete 180 on this. Apparently even though we're going to miss our deadline for the third time, it's fine to the CTO and no action will be taken. He understands we'll be another 4-5 months behind.

If I was being as conservative as possible, I could have built this entire system myself (including learning the new tech) in about a year, maybe 1.5, if I had a remotely proper spec or any sort of info. It's taken a team of 5-7 (depending on the period) over 1.5 years to get slight more than half way there.

Clear to me that the issues here are not only my completely inept, douche, fuckwad boss but at the top too. Is there any downside to completely phoning it in until I get laid off and then looking for a new job? I've got loads of cash and liquid assets saved and feel like this is just the proper course of action for my mental health.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Good Will Hrunting posted:

Got the confidential scoop from senior mate who tried to transfer off the team and not shocking but complete 180 on this. Apparently even though we're going to miss our deadline for the third time, it's fine to the CTO and no action will be taken. He understands we'll be another 4-5 months behind.

If I was being as conservative as possible, I could have built this entire system myself (including learning the new tech) in about a year, maybe 1.5, if I had a remotely proper spec or any sort of info. It's taken a team of 5-7 (depending on the period) over 1.5 years to get slight more than half way there.

Clear to me that the issues here are not only my completely inept, douche, fuckwad boss but at the top too. Is there any downside to completely phoning it in until I get laid off and then looking for a new job? I've got loads of cash and liquid assets saved and feel like this is just the proper course of action for my mental health.

If phoning it in makes it harder to get a new job, e.g. if it’ll get you fired and companies won’t hire unemployed people (I’ve seen this before), then I’d say no. Otherwise, go for it!

I get to have an in-person with Akamai today. Looking forward to loving bombing the interview.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.

Pollyanna posted:

If phoning it in makes it harder to get a new job, e.g. if it’ll get you fired and companies won’t hire unemployed people (I’ve seen this before), then I’d say no. Otherwise, go for it!

I'd never want to work for anyone who has any sort of positive relationship with my boss, not in a million loving years, and both of the people here on my team above me who like me are totally sympathetic to the fact that as someone with less experience I'm not getting nearly enough of an opportunity to progress. They've already told me anything I need to find a new role when the time comes, they can help me with.

I really just feel like completely detaching from this role while I start to prep and interview is the only course of action possible. So long as I hang on and try to make this work and do a good job, I'm going to be at a level of care that is too much given how poorly run it is and how stressful it is to care.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Good luck. I think you’re on the right path, for as much as my opinion helps.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

Good Will Hrunting posted:

Is there any downside to completely phoning it in until I get laid off and then looking for a new job? I've got loads of cash and liquid assets saved and feel like this is just the proper course of action for my mental health.

You will corrupt your soul doing this. If you have loads of cash, I would suggest just jettisoning yourself and start looking for new job, rather than going completely dead inside. If you can make SOME honest effort to work, while also looking for new job, that is probably best.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.

Skandranon posted:

You will corrupt your soul doing this. If you have loads of cash, I would suggest just jettisoning yourself and start looking for new job, rather than going completely dead inside. If you can make SOME honest effort to work, while also looking for new job, that is probably best.

I mean yeah, this is what I planned on. 10:30 - 5 instead of 9:30-6. Muting Slack and Email notifications in after hours. Leaving tasks for the next day instead of staying until 6:30 on a Friday afternoon when my entire office has already left for a company sponsored happy hour.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Good Will Hrunting posted:

I mean yeah, this is what I planned on. 10:30 - 5 instead of 9:30-6. Muting Slack and Email notifications in after hours. Leaving tasks for the next day instead of staying until 6:30 on a Friday afternoon when my entire office has already left for a company sponsored happy hour.

Yeah. Everyone else seems to be doing the bare minimum to make things work.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


There’s nothing wrong with muting Slack and Emails after work hours. A company that asks you to do that without your explicit consent is pretty lovely, unless you’re running a critical system, and let’s be honest - most things we work on are not PagerDuty-at-2-am critical.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

Good Will Hrunting posted:

I mean yeah, this is what I planned on. 10:30 - 5 instead of 9:30-6. Muting Slack and Email notifications in after hours. Leaving tasks for the next day instead of staying until 6:30 on a Friday afternoon when my entire office has already left for a company sponsored happy hour.

That is probably good then. Don't wait until you get laid off to find new job, start now. Don't start playing games while working from home, even if you think you can get away with it, it's not good for you. I was there once and while I would say it ended well, it was rather hellish the whole time I was there.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.
I'm sure I'll check out even further after my bonus is paid out and it's an embarrassingly low % of my target because I (and my other mate) get blamed for the constant slippage.

Also, I have a 1 on 1 with Lord poo poo himself this Friday so that will be interesting. He basically just ignores all of my Slack/Jira questions at this point. Literally ignores them lol. Trip report to come.

Moon Wizard
Dec 29, 2011

Good Will Hrunting posted:

I mean yeah, this is what I planned on. 10:30 - 5 instead of 9:30-6. Muting Slack and Email notifications in after hours. Leaving tasks for the next day instead of staying until 6:30 on a Friday afternoon when my entire office has already left for a company sponsored happy hour.

Honestly, other than working less than 8 hours you probably should have already been doing those things. Companies will happily let you work extra time and aren't likely to reward you for it.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.

Moon Wizard posted:

Honestly, other than working less than 8 hours you probably should have already been doing those things. Companies will happily let you work extra time and aren't likely to reward you for it.

Coding 4 hours
Answering emails 3 hours
Slack 3 hours
Stressing over job 17 hours
someone who is good at work please help me budget time. im dying

(Seriously though I'm way too loyal to lovely people and jobs to the point of sometimes feeling like I'm being taken advantage of)

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


I can +1 goofing off during WFH making you feel worse, not better. Especially if you have ADD and an executive disorder like me.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.
CTO just slid into my DMs. Wants to have a quick chat this afternoon. Lord, give me the strength to be honest but not too honest.

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



Good Will Hrunting posted:

I mean yeah, this is what I planned on. 10:30 - 5 instead of 9:30-6. Muting Slack and Email notifications in after hours. Leaving tasks for the next day instead of staying until 6:30 on a Friday afternoon when my entire office has already left for a company sponsored happy hour.

Gah, don't even put work accounts on your machines ya dingus!

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

Good Will Hrunting posted:

CTO just slid into my DMs. Wants to have a quick chat this afternoon. Lord, give me the strength to be honest but not too honest.

Be as honest as possible. Call your boss Darth Shithead, go nuts. Worst case scenario, you get fired, which is what you want! You will grow from this experience the more honest you are. The more you lie and cover up for Darth Shithead, the more you will hate yourself.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Skandranon posted:

Be as honest as possible. Call your boss Darth Shithead, go nuts. Worst case scenario, you get fired, which is what you want! You will grow from this experience the more honest you are. The more you lie and cover up for Darth Shithead, the more you will hate yourself.

There's a difference between lying and diplomacy, and it is IMO always worth practicing your diplomacy. It would not be diplomatic to call your boss Darth Shithead, but it would be fine to say "I believe that he's the primary impediment to us achieving our goals", especially when you can point to communications (or lack thereof) with your boss, massive arbitrary changes checked in by your boss, etc. as evidence.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

There's a difference between lying and diplomacy, and it is IMO always worth practicing your diplomacy. It would not be diplomatic to call your boss Darth Shithead, but it would be fine to say "I believe that he's the primary impediment to us achieving our goals", especially when you can point to communications (or lack thereof) with your boss, massive arbitrary changes checked in by your boss, etc. as evidence.

It is a very fine line though, and I was trying to get across that he'll be angry with himself if he doesn't actually say the things he thinks really need to be said.

The March Hare
Oct 15, 2006

Je rêve d'un
Wayne's World 3
Buglord
Tell the CTO you are most comfortable explaining the situation through interpretive dance then put on a mask of your boss and start goose stepping around the conference room.

Ostiosis
Nov 3, 2002

I'm no executive but a CTO that doesn't realize an engineering manager is a problem is a problem too.

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer
Tell the CTO that everything is cool and you love working there

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

rt4 posted:

Tell the CTO that everything is cool and you love working there

And that he should promote your boss as far as is possible. Then laugh 10 years later as the entire company is destroyed.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.

Ostiosis posted:

I'm no executive but a CTO that doesn't realize an engineering manager is a problem is a problem too.

I agree. This is a "him against us" situation and, while there is no level of "us" large enough to make things better by complaining due to the fact that he has protection, that doesn't mean it's right for me to keep my mouth shut out of fear it gets back to Bashrc al Assad.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


I’m on my break in this daylong interview and I had to ask a security guard to let me use the bathroom because I think the interviewers forgot about me.

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Munkeymon posted:

Gah, don't even put work accounts on your machines ya dingus!

Justify this by mumbling something about security.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.

Ostiosis posted:

I'm no executive but a CTO that doesn't realize an engineering manager is a problem is a problem too.

I rescind my comments. He definitely does. Super positive meeting with near-immediate change happening and if I'm not happy after that, there are a few roles that will be open for a while (multiple roles on multiple teams) that they'd be glad to put me on.

The March Hare
Oct 15, 2006

Je rêve d'un
Wayne's World 3
Buglord

Good Will Hrunting posted:

I rescind my comments. He definitely does. Super positive meeting with near-immediate change happening and if I'm not happy after that, there are a few roles that will be open for a while (multiple roles on multiple teams) that they'd be glad to put me on.

Nice, congrats!

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

Good Will Hrunting posted:

I rescind my comments. He definitely does. Super positive meeting with near-immediate change happening and if I'm not happy after that, there are a few roles that will be open for a while (multiple roles on multiple teams) that they'd be glad to put me on.

Hey I think you left your screen unlocked while they were escorting you out....

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.
I still think King poo poo of Fuckwad Mountain will have too much control and I'll end up quitting just maybe a few months later than I would now

Phobeste
Apr 9, 2006

never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man

Good Will Hrunting posted:

Bashrc al Assad.

Stealing this for cyberpunk names thread.

I too am in the bad "I don't care about any of this and spend a lot of time dicking around and it's not fun" boat but that's just because I keep having to write a bunch of Python instead of lovely C. Maybe it'll be done soon (it won't unless we hire somebody)

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Jaded Burnout posted:

Yeah. Everyone else seems to be doing the bare minimum to make things work.
this is a rational decision when you realize your primary goal in the workplace is supposed to be to make someone else richer

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