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MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
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Related to the discussion about it, I remember specifically saying before the new Ghostbusters came out that the issue would never really be about women playing the roles (although dig deep enough into a critic of that movie, do not accept bullshit, and it will be close to the core of it), but that Ghostbusters as a franchise is inherently not wanted or interested in by any significant-enough-to-count numbers. Ghostbusters was a lightning-in-the-bottle thing that every later addition to it has been somewhere between disliked and ignored.

Add to the fact that the one really-liked movie in the franchise is a Dad-Bordering-On-Grandpa Movie by now, some sort of failure was inherent and inevitable. Ghostbusters isn't a draw.

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Jan 2, 2015





speaking of gb'16 it's interesting to note how much of the blame for its questionable creative decisions actually fell on the shoulders of its director, paul feig, as you would normally expect from a film with systemic issues but that's definitely not how the prevailing discussion went on either side

there were certainly some people using its critical/box-office failure as a vehicle to peddle some other narrative and tho they probably weren't that great in number they managed to spoil the discussion nonetheless

Aesop Poprock posted:

I’m sorry, the what now?

uncle ben died on a monday :( the emma stone & andrew garfield spidermans

burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.

Tiggum posted:

The best way to see a movie at the cinema is when absolutely no one else is there. Whole place to yourself. A movie isn't a social experience anyway, you're sitting quietly in the dark, and other people can only ruin it.

I actually agree with this. I’ve seen a few movies alone in tiny venues and it was awesome even when the movies themselves weren’t great - including Underworld. I guess I should probably spend time thinking about why that is.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Ghostbusters 16 wasn't great and relied way too heavily on improv. The original was nothing special either.

Tiggum posted:

The best way to see a movie at the cinema is when absolutely no one else is there. Whole place to yourself. A movie isn't a social experience anyway, you're sitting quietly in the dark, and other people can only ruin it.

Comedies are a social thing for me. I laugh a lot more if other people around me are laughing too.

If it's a serious movie, sure, I prefer to be in a big empty room.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
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Different types of movies lend themselves to, for lack of a better term, watching schemas:

- Indie / Oscar bait films lend themselves to seeing it by yourself in an empty theater, since those movies are more about passing time anyway, and their lack of interest from regular folks means if you get lucky, it'll just be you. It's an excuse to indulge in all your lovely theater behaviors (nobody can bitch about you reading a text if you're the only one there) without bothering anyone.

- Seeing a movie by yourself is good for most movies on an initial watch, where you don't want too much distraction from crowds. This is reinforced if you tend to be a "see new stuff Thursday nights" movie guy.

- Seeing movies with friends and crowds is great for the above normal movies on a second watch, to get the added fun of noticing how those friends and others react to things you know what's coming. You can afford to be distracted by that stuff because it's a re-watch for you.

burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.
But what of the temptation to pre-plan several hilarious one-liner quips that relate to what just happened on screen/jokes that seem spontaneous and MY GOD HAHAHA YOU ARE SO QUICK OF WIT I AM TRYING TO WATCH THIS MOVIE.

Sorry. I’ve just been lured in by that guy a couple of times.

e: This was regarding that final example, which is totally fine unless you do what I just described.

e2: If it’s a dramatic movie, these people will instead “subtly” hint at what’s going on/make little predictions about things that just happen to turn out accurate.

burial has a new favorite as of 08:49 on Jan 25, 2018

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
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I know people who so that poo poo, but I don't subscribe to doing that. Crowd re-watches are to see how others responded to the movie, not get people to respond to you.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
When I saw TLJ, I cracked a one-liner about porgs and the entire theatre launched into an MST3K style quipfest after applauding. As the credits rolled, the crowd burst into a spontaneous rendition of “hallelujah”, at the finale of which an eagle named Small Government swooped in to perch on my shoulder.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

When I saw TLJ, I cracked a one-liner about porgs and the entire theatre launched into an MST3K style quipfest after applauding. As the credits rolled, the crowd burst into a spontaneous rendition of “hallelujah”, at the finale of which an eagle named Small Government swooped in to perch on my shoulder.

And that Last Jedi's name was

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Wheat Loaf posted:

And that Last Jedi's name was

Alu-Ber Tenshtin

Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 10:03 on Jan 25, 2018

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Alu-Ber Tenshtin

There's a better than 50% chance that this is a real EU character.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


MisterBibs posted:

- Seeing movies with friends and crowds is great for the above normal movies on a second watch, to get the added fun of noticing how those friends and others react to things you know what's coming. You can afford to be distracted by that stuff because it's a re-watch for you.
There's not a movie in existence that I'd pay cinema prices to see twice.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

lemon-lyme disease posted:

I actually agree with this. I’ve seen a few movies alone in tiny venues and it was awesome even when the movies themselves weren’t great - including Underworld. I guess I should probably spend time thinking about why that is.

My best memory of seeing a movie in a theater was when I saw Prince of Egypt with my grandma and sister in a small theater in San Antonio as a kid because we were the only 3 people there so we could run up and down the aisles being obnoxious and also that movie ruled

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Wheat Loaf posted:

There's a better than 50% chance that this is a real EU character.

Yeah and he has a past relationship with Han Solo where they're cold but respectful towards each other because of illegal dealings because in a universe of like a million trillion beings everyone has strong connections somehow

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Oct 30, 2009

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Tiggum posted:

There's not a movie in existence that I'd pay cinema prices to see twice.

Predator, bitch

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
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MisterBibs posted:

Related to the discussion about it, I remember specifically saying before the new Ghostbusters came out that the issue would never really be about women playing the roles (although dig deep enough into a critic of that movie, do not accept bullshit, and it will be close to the core of it), but that Ghostbusters as a franchise is inherently not wanted or interested in by any significant-enough-to-count numbers. Ghostbusters was a lightning-in-the-bottle thing that every later addition to it has been somewhere between disliked and ignored.

Add to the fact that the one really-liked movie in the franchise is a Dad-Bordering-On-Grandpa Movie by now, some sort of failure was inherent and inevitable. Ghostbusters isn't a draw.

I don't think the issue is lack of public interest (although GB2016 might have poisoned that well, so maybe it is now), it's that Sony's understanding of Ghostbusters begins and ends with "hey Ghostbusters is pretty popular let's sell Ghostbusters stuff." Ghostbusters 2 was a cynical cash-in, Ghostbusters 2016 was a cynical cash-in, that's how it is and always will be. It's a testament to all of the talented and passionate people that worked on GB2016 that it wound up being watchable at all, but it was never going to be any better than that as long as Sony was at the helm.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

oldpainless posted:

Predator, bitch

More like old... never mind.

Add Robocop, Predator 2, Running Man and Commando to that list. Oh, and Die Hard.

Cavenagh
Oct 9, 2007

Grrrrrrrrr.

Sunswipe posted:

More like old... never mind.

Add Robocop, Predator 2, Running Man and Commando to that list. Oh, and Die Hard.

Just add Alien and Aliens and you have my old VHS collection

burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.

Aesop Poprock posted:

My best memory of seeing a movie in a theater was when I saw Prince of Egypt with my grandma and sister in a small theater in San Antonio as a kid because we were the only 3 people there so we could run up and down the aisles being obnoxious and also that movie ruled

I have grown fond of you. Sadly, I never grown fond of that movie. I had a similar experience with The Rescuers Down Under though, so I get it.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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The last movie I paid twice to see was Starship Troopers when I was 17.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

Solice Kirsk posted:

The last movie I paid twice to see was Starship Troopers when I was 17.

Yeah I don't have friends either, it sucks.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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yeah I eat rear end posted:

Yeah I don't have friends either, it sucks.

Sticking your fleshlight in the cup holder doesn't count as seeing a movie with a "friend."

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Oct 30, 2009

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Solice Kirsk posted:

The last movie I paid twice to see was Starship Troopers when I was 17.

A wise decision.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I loving hate sick people. Especially in public. Stop coughing you jerk I'm trying to drink some coffee and relax.

HairyManling
Jul 20, 2011

No flipping.
Fun Shoe

oldpainless posted:

Predator, bitch
Predator is the greatest accomplishment humans have ever endeavored for and also achieved. I will literally fight anyone that disagrees.

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn

Mu Zeta posted:

I loving hate sick people. Especially in public. Stop coughing you jerk I'm trying to drink some coffee and relax.

Sharing is caring

Caufman
May 7, 2007
Andy Garcia was really funny in Ghostbusters.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Mu Zeta posted:

Sometimes I wish movie tickets cost twice as much so that it would keep the assholes out. People will surely put their phone away and be quiet during the movie if they have to pay $25 to see it.

:laffo:

My man have you ever watched a sports game. People in $1000 seats do this poo poo

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe
Not an opinion, I suppose, but I get low-to-actually uncomfortable with people saying things about their own ethnicity that they can only 'get away' with because they are that ethnicity. The two examples of it that come to mind are jewish folks doing the stereotypical yiddish accent as a gag, or black folks using the N word a lot.

I'm not entirely sure why (near as I can figure it's just a hyperawareness of being a white guy who absolutely under no circumstances is never allowed to say or do those things a strongly ingrained sense that saying them is Very Bad), but man, it just makes me want to crawl into a negative-space hole.

MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 03:39 on Jan 27, 2018

Caufman
May 7, 2007
Keep it funny, gwailo

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Solice Kirsk posted:

The last movie I paid twice to see was Starship Troopers when I was 17.

Saw Mad Max: Fury Road twice in theaters, and if anything regret not going a third time.

Alvarez IV
Aug 3, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
Temple of Doom is the best Indiana Jones.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

MisterBibs posted:

Not an opinion, I suppose, but I get low-to-actually uncomfortable with people saying things about their own ethnicity that they can only 'get away' with because they are that ethnicity. The two examples of it that come to mind are jewish folks doing the stereotypical yiddish accent as a gag, or black folks using the N word a lot.

I'm not entirely sure why (near as I can figure it's just a hyperawareness of being a white guy who absolutely under no circumstances is never allowed to say or do those things a strongly ingrained sense that saying them is Very Bad), but man, it just makes me want to crawl into a negative-space hole.

So how many jewish dudes can you fit in my kia soul??

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Tiggum posted:

There's not a movie in existence that I'd pay cinema prices to see twice.
I paid to see Ran, 2001, and the Shining in various theaters and they all owned. Hell I paid to see TNG 'Best of Both Worlds' back to back in a theater for the novelty value. Man Part 2 is a *sharp* letdown.

Unpopular Trek opinion: Voyager has a better cast than Deep Space 9, even if Deep Space 9 realizes theirs far better.

Caufman
May 7, 2007
I'd watch a favorite movie twice if it was at a dollar theater, or if I had a membership to that unlimited movie pass. But I'd rather watch movies (porn and otherwise) from the comfort of my compy

burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.
Weirdly, I’d be far more willing to shell out to watch an old movie I already know I like in a small-ish venue than I’ll ever be to see something new in a crowded cineplex. Unfortunately, I’m exactly the person that’s probably be priced out if that were an actual thing in the middle of nowhere. Where I live. Oh god.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Caufman posted:

I'd watch a favorite movie twice if it was at a dollar theater, or if I had a membership to that unlimited movie pass. But I'd rather watch movies (porn and otherwise) from the comfort of my compy
See, the thing is watching older stuff on a big screen does reveal a lot that you won't catch on anything at home unless you're a Richie rich motherfucker who has their own theater-size tv.

Like watching Batman 89 made me realize just how much of a structural mess that movie is. The Shining's sexual abuse subtext jumps out like lightning. You really *really* notice how many black rectangles Kubrick hid all over the second and third acts of 2001. You get a feel for how good Travolta's junkie mannerisms are in Pulp Fiction. It is a worthwhile exercise.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

10-15 bucks to see a movie isn't bad, and that's nice theatre price

lemon-lyme disease posted:

Weirdly, I’d be far more willing to shell out to watch an old movie I already know I like in a small-ish venue than I’ll ever be to see something new in a crowded cineplex. Unfortunately, I’m exactly the person that’s probably be priced out if that were an actual thing in the middle of nowhere. Where I live. Oh god.

yeah, the Alamo Drafthouse isn't even 15 bucks a ticket

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Alamo actually tends to be a great deal. They make their money on the expensive food and drinks (which are good, to be fair, worth buying if you want the dinner show experience), but if you just go for the movie and don't order anything, you get a small theatre with comfy rear end seats for cheap as hell prices compared to cineplexes. Plus way fewer ads and way more funny short clips before the film. Also there's an Alamo in my hometown now, so those of you who normally don't get cool theatres might be in luck if they keep expanding.

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hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Alamo actually tends to be a great deal. They make their money on the expensive food and drinks (which are good, to be fair, worth buying if you want the dinner show experience), but if you just go for the movie and don't order anything, you get a small theatre with comfy rear end seats for cheap as hell prices compared to cineplexes. Plus way fewer ads and way more funny short clips before the film. Also there's an Alamo in my hometown now, so those of you who normally don't get cool theatres might be in luck if they keep expanding.

I don't think I'll go anywhere but the Alamo from now on, to be honest

the food is good, they carry good beer (they even have a good sour), and they run good movies

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