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Thar she blows ($300/mo.) | 9 | 5.52% | |
We got our hooks in 'em ($100-$300/mo.) | 11 | 6.75% | |
They's taking the bait! ($20-100/mo.) | 25 | 15.34% | |
Toss 'em back in the sea. (F2P - $20/mo.) | 118 | 72.39% | |
Total: | 163 votes |
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Welp they broke/fixed magnification chaining which really loving sucks. Hopefully it gets reverted or my desire to play is gonna plummet.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 16:31 |
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hamsystem posted:Welp they broke/fixed magnification chaining which really loving sucks. Hopefully it gets reverted or my desire to play is gonna plummet. Unfortunately, the weird delay it creates is identical to the JP version, so I think that's a fix. Goodbye spark-chaining. Edit: Honestly I knew it was coming to GL eventually, so I stopped using that trick months ago just to prepare myself. It is very lovely since spark-chaining is basically just a freak accident mechanic for like 99% of people that play this game, since trying to tap two units in the span of microseconds is so obscenely difficult even if your phone is sensitive enough to register taps that fast (most aren't). Office Thug fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jan 25, 2018 |
# ? Jan 25, 2018 16:38 |
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On iOS swiping up the control centre then swiping it down before queuing actions still creates perfect spark chains. The sound is no longer delayed though.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 16:51 |
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Which creates a big disparity between iOS players and Android players, which is frankly bullshit.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 16:57 |
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Pulled a Basch this morning on the daily. He looks like a pretty good tank. I was also reading this morning that for the new big boss you can use Xon to steal his 100% buff. It doesn't take the boss' buff away, but you guys will be both be immune for the duration.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 17:03 |
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Khisanth Magus posted:Which creates a big disparity between iOS players and Android players, which is frankly bullshit. Not that I disagree, but for months the Android magnification trick worked and there was no iOS equivalent. I doubt it’s an imbalance Gumi cares about now that it goes the other direction.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 17:07 |
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Ratmtattat posted:Pulled a Basch this morning on the daily. He looks like a pretty good tank. Already fixed.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 17:13 |
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Khisanth Magus posted:Already fixed. Of course we can't have funny things like this for too long.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 17:17 |
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So if you use "magnify with button" instead of triple tap you can zoom in and perfect chain again. It's a little more cumbersome but it works fine.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 17:19 |
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Expeditions tell you the relevant stats in-game now.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 17:47 |
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Well, Reset Bird earned his name today. The new app has a bug where two resets in a row will act like a 100-lapis continue, reviving all units with full LB and a esper gauges. As long as one unit survives the pre-emptive strike, you can use this trick to summon Ifrit and pass the trial with all missions. The Reddit thread on the new update (bugs and features) has the details. This works in other contexts of course, but I've only had time to use it on the bird. You could probably use it to cheese all the trials if you can do it before Gumi fixes it.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 18:10 |
werdnam posted:Well, Reset Bird earned his name today. The new app has a bug where two resets in a row will act like a 100-lapis continue, reviving all units with full LB and a esper gauges. As long as one unit survives the pre-emptive strike, you can use this trick to summon Ifrit and pass the trial with all missions. I tried it on the Chamber of Rebirth trials to get the esper clear (really, I could do it with Garnet and any LB/turn stuff now) and it works! I know games are made out of hopes and dreams and spaghetti, but it still blows my mind when these kinds of things exist. Gotta try and cheese something while this is still up.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 18:57 |
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I would so do this, but I still don’t have the right fire weapons
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 18:59 |
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Khisanth Magus posted:Which creates a big disparity between iOS players and Android players, which is frankly bullshit. iOS players had to sit and watch Android players pull off perfect chains for months until we found our own method. The iOS trick was fixed on JP eventually too. We're all hosed. It's HE frames forever now. (edit - spelling/grammar) dangerous.hotdog fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jan 25, 2018 |
# ? Jan 25, 2018 19:18 |
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This game is rapidly becoming something you pretty much have to play on an emulator, since you need one to TMR farm and now to chain anyone who doesn't use tgc frames.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 19:38 |
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Khisanth Magus posted:This game is rapidly becoming something you pretty much have to play on an emulator, since you need one to TMR farm and now to chain anyone who doesn't use tgc frames. None of that is new though? Well, since the beginning of chaining anyway, which has been a thing since I started actually playing this game 9 months ago. The only changes have been the discovery of the ability to spark chain without emulators and the addition/change of units with proper chaining frames to match existing units (Christine comes to mind). Gumi doesn’t really have the same anti-emulator stance for the US as it does in JP and I don’t imagine they’ll actively try to break spark chaining with phones. As was mentioned when we thought it had already happened: it’s going to hit their player base hard if they ever do. I get complaining about the planning and conceptualization of chaining and the mishmash of chaining frames everywhere. But that’s a known problem since we’re a year behind the game’s development and implementation cycle. I doubt Gumi has the leeway to just start changing frame data for units - maybe very simply because they don’t want to spend the time re-doing animations to make sure it syncs up properly with new timings. Gumi seems to be actually paying attention to stuff, and we get the added benefit of most of our localization getting to be a second pass over these things with massive amounts of “playtest” data to inform balance changes. Gumi’s still pretty obnoxious at times and very greedy but I’ve been surprised lately with the efforts they’ve made in some regards.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 20:27 |
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werdnam posted:Well, Reset Bird earned his name today. The new app has a bug where two resets in a row will act like a 100-lapis continue, reviving all units with full LB and a esper gauges. As long as one unit survives the pre-emptive strike, you can use this trick to summon Ifrit and pass the trial with all missions. If you haven't done bullshit icebird make sure to do it ASAP because the old method of reseting the turn 1000 times to get a favorable outcome has been fixed. Now its a massive NRG sink barring RNGesus blessing your attempt. So now do the short term new reset bug before it too is fixed.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 20:36 |
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dangerous.hotdog posted:iOS players had to sit and watch Android players pull off perfect chains for months until we found our own method. It's the same core game as in JP though, they could have just fixed it completely. So either they broke something unintentionally or they hosed up the fix they intended to implement. On a side note, it is surprisingly easy to chain a TDH FD Onion Bro's Splendor of Earth into two Aileen's Piledriver+2s. Maybe I should finally attempt the dumb robot again.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 20:40 |
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It's still possible to spark chain on Android if you have a version that has the magnification button option. You hit it to bring up magnify mode, click somewhere on the screen where you can hit the guys you want to chain with (it'll zoom in), and then fire away and it'll chain like it did with the old magnification trick.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 20:54 |
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say no to bats posted:If you haven't done bullshit icebird make sure to do it ASAP because the old method of reseting the turn 1000 times to get a favorable outcome has been fixed. Now its a massive NRG sink barring RNGesus blessing your attempt. It just lasers and murdered everyone still.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 21:32 |
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:It just lasers and murdered everyone still. I had to try twice to get one party member to survive. So there's still some RNG.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 22:39 |
I was curious about Ice Bird so I tried making somebody who could tank the opener with the goal of surviving and using the reset bug to revive the party. I figured I'd try Barusa: He has innate paralysis immunity and good equips for ice resistance. Big Ice Bird doesn't use his ice imperil attack until after his actual ice&wind attack so I just needed to hit 100% ice & wind resistance (average) and as much tankiness as possible. Here's what I tried: Ulric's Kukri: +10% all resistance and +20 SPR is nice. Snowstorm Shield: +30% Ice&Wind resistance Frozen Crown: +30% ice resistance, +500 HP, +50 SPR makes this a great slot Ice Amor: +50% ice resistance, easy to build up high ice resistance Arsha's Talisman & Jake's Pirate Ring: Huge HP, DEF, and SPR buffing gear Mechanical Heart, Full Moon, Resentment, and Patriotic Recall for +HP, +DEF, and +SPR. Crowe is only 80% done so no Thirst for Survival. Esper: Shiva HP: 10794 DEF: 412 SPR: 326 170% ice resist, 40% wind resist, 105% average I gave it a test run with a different build (Galkan Dagger, Great Raven Cape, Elven Gloves, Tetra Sylpheed. I still had 100% average resistance but less HP&DEF&SPR. I hoped the Great Raven Cape would offset Draw Attack and mean less lasers). Barusa survived but it was RNG dependent: He got one laser, resisted the big ice&wind attack, and took four hits on the jaw. He survived but only with ~500 HP and two of those hits were pretty low rolls. The revised build should have better odds of surviving unless he eats both lasers. I haven't tried a second test run with the above build yet but I'm sharing him if it'll help anybody. IGN Buttz. I'd imagine somebody with actual 5* tanks like WKN could make somebody more likely to survive that initial attack and then reset glitch to one shot the ice bird.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 22:53 |
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Wait, what's this about oneshotting the ice bird?
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 23:03 |
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i thought it was regarded as being pretty easy to one shot the ice bird. two OKs with fire weapons can do it without much fuss
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 23:10 |
Ice Bird is a giant glass cannon. You can just kill it in one turn with some good fire attack chains. When I did the ice bird back in the rng reset days I just had two DPS: 2B and a friend Orlandu, both with fire weapons and Tetra Sylpheed for the half effective Bird Killer. Just did a decent enough chain to oneshot the boss. My buffer (Soleil) died in the opener, Rikku could've used breaks via Pouch but instead just revived. I had a Garnet to do the evoke Ifrit and that straight up killed the little birds too. Didn't even enhance her EVO MAG or give her any materia that does the same. e: With the reset glitch you can bring 3-4 DPS, maybe a breaker (bird has 50% break resistance) or a buffer, and the one guy whose job is to survive. Survive the opener, reset to revive the party and get the esper gauge filled, and kill the bird. If you need all characters to kill the bird then ignore the little birds and Ifrit them on the 2nd turn. Just make sure that if you hit a bird with a fire weapon that bird dies that turn because otherwise they'll counter with bad times and likely wipe you, speaking from experience. Scrublord Prime fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 23:16 |
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You literally only needs two phys fire chainers of any decent gear to do it. Or semi-chainers, I did it with two Queens.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 23:54 |
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If you have two good phys chainers, mystea can cover the bird by herself without many issues (maybe w reset). I can throw one up if someone needs it
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 00:43 |
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Did this update increase the buff for the series bonus in arena? I could have sworn that before my buffed Ashes used to have 7k HP, but now they have 8k HP?
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 01:27 |
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PDQ Law posted:Did this update increase the buff for the series bonus in arena? I could have sworn that before my buffed Ashes used to have 7k HP, but now they have 8k HP? I've seen other people report similar.
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 01:29 |
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Okay, I beat the bird with an Ifrit Friendlandu (thanks man!) Need to do it again for the Hat Arts, I used WoL, 9S, Soleil (Ramza needs crysts badly!) and two Orlandeu of my own. I swapped out WoL instead of 9S for the 5-man and in retrospect that was a huge mistake. EDIT: Got the Hat Arts. Is there a way I can exploit this, uh, exploit, to take down the Marlboro or Wicked Moon? Is it possible to be carried through those? CAPT. Rainbowbeard fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jan 26, 2018 |
# ? Jan 26, 2018 02:50 |
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Daily! Rainbow! Gilgamesh! Blargh!
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 09:26 |
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Elnath down, used Ashe with dualcast as my magic DPS and one-shotted phase 3 using the reflect trick
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 09:32 |
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10+1 pull on the DV banner got me a 2nd Ramza as the first pull which I'm ok with as now I have a 7* Bard. Another 15 tickets gets me nothing but oh well.
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 09:37 |
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I put up a pretty strong Fohlen (also has aquan killer) for the new exploration if anyone needs:
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 10:00 |
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Threw a couple tickets at the VotD banner. Got a rainbow! So hype for a second VotD or a Ramza... ...oh. Ok. That’s cool too I suppose.
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 10:07 |
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I pulled Ramza. Is he any good?
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 11:45 |
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No John posted:I pulled Ramza. Is he any good? Post-enhancement he is.
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 12:03 |
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I got a Crowe. I liked Crowe, too bad she has like thirty seconds of screen time. She's got damage reduction skills, so she's not useless.
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 14:19 |
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Has anyone else's unit sorting all out of order? I have my sorted by Unit name and the bottom of my list is now: Zyrus Vanille Vaan Veritas of the Earth Ovelia Cloud of Darkness (I have another one that is sorted properly by C) Silvia King Giott Veritas of Water Seabreeze Dark Fina Veritas of the Heavens Summer Lid Beach Time Fina Magitek Armor Terra Doesn't seem to be any logic to the sorting either
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 15:02 |
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Chasiu posted:Has anyone else's unit sorting all out of order? I have my sorted by Unit name and the bottom of my list is now: That's one of the new bugs. Sorting alphabetically apparently isn't using localized names.
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# ? Jan 26, 2018 15:05 |