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Then he says "I just got promoted. I'm General America now."
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Then he says "I just got promoted. I'm General
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I just got confirmed by the Senate, I'm Secretary of Housing and Urban Development America now
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Professor X / Magneto are a notable inversion where the hero wears green and the villain wears red. It's more like purple, still a villain color.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I just got confirmed by the Senate, I'm Secretary of Housing and Urban Development America now Remember when Dr Doom's villainous scheme of the month was to threaten America until the president appointed him to the cabinet?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Remember when Dr Doom's villainous scheme of the month was to threaten America until the president appointed him to the cabinet?
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Dell Rusk was only secretary of defense.
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The Red Skull also became the President in a What If where they mass produced the Super soldier serum. And also in Old Man Logan he was the President of the messed up America. And come to think of it, in Mark Gruenwald's run he became a Congressman called John Smith*. Basically the Red Skull has a long history of involvement in American politics. * = Sadly the story wasn't called "Johan Schmidt Goes to Washington."
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If only the movie actually went through with that aesthetic, the movie shot itself in the foot when Logan actually beat those latino stereotypes in the beginning of the movie.
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You were thinking they'd beat him to death and the movie would be over in the first 10 minutes?
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SonicRulez posted:You were thinking they'd beat him to death and the movie would be over in the first 10 minutes? I actually agree that he shouldn't have won that fight
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Jan 26, 2018 18:27
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He still has a bulletproof skeleton.
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And big loving claws.
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Jan 26, 2018 18:29
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I mean like, he should have gotten the poo poo kicked out of him then they all leave before he gets back up. I don't think he should have died. Him killing a bunch of them doesn't really fit the rest of the movie.
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Jan 26, 2018 18:30
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Why not he kills like a hundred guys in that movie
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Jan 26, 2018 18:35
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Because he's at his low point at the start. He's a broken man in every way. It says way more about where he is at that point if he loses.
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Yeah he's supposed to be defeated and at the end of his rope. Having him beat up those dudes at the beginning of the movie in such a cool and brutal manner doesn't give him a bottom to rise out from. The whole movie was confused on whether it wanted to be action fight fest or rumination on violence and old age, it's not as deep as it thinks it is. e: added the bit about old age
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Jan 26, 2018 18:37
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He doesn't really win that fight.
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Doom would probably be better than the current administration. Red Skull, about the same.
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If he lost that fight then where would he had gotten replacement wheels?
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Taerkar posted:If he lost that fight then where would he had gotten replacement wheels? The result of the fight wasn't really a win for Logan. He still got his rear end kicked despite killing a few of them.
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Jan 26, 2018 19:39
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Indeed, but if he hadn't gotten up after he was shot then they would have stripped the car (or at least taken the wheels?). If I'm remembering correctly they're doing just that when he gets up. (Also that was more in regards to what Arist said)
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Tbh I'm not entirely convinced that Logan needed to have lost the fight (in that he's completely incapable of fighting back or whatever, i think rhyno has a point in that he didn't really "win" either) to show that he's at the nadir of his life, i think the movie did a pretty good job of that without it
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Shageletic posted:Yeah he's supposed to be defeated and at the end of his rope. I don't think that scene is supposed to show you how cool and awesome Wolverine is. It's like the complete opposite.
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He went from barely taking hits off of paramilitary trained professionals in the previous movies to getting his rear end kicked and fumbling through a "win" with some goons. If he had straight lost that fight everything with the Ravegers that came later would have been that much less believable.
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Yeah the whole point is to show that he is still Wolverine in some ways, but he's so much less than he ever was before. A healthy Logan would have beaten a bunch of random street thugs without losing his breath.
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Guys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et9tJ-KTgwA This is not what winning a fight looks like. Doubly so for Wolverine.
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SleepCousinDeath posted:I don't think that scene is supposed to show you how cool and awesome Wolverine is. It's like the complete opposite. People cheered in my theater when he cut up those dudes. It's all subjective but it was a classic "sighs as he draws his katana" moment to me. e: that clip just reminded me about how racist that scene was too e2: it's all a lead up to 1m30s, Woverine doming a dude Shageletic fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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You guys are just splitting hairs as to the definition of "win." I think the movie would be slightly stronger if he just totally got his rear end beat instead of killing a bunch of them because it's a better introduction to not just Logan, but the world of the story.
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Maybe I’m giving to much benefit of the doubt but I came away from that scene feeling like if he had been stronger and better in control he could have beat them without killing them. The fact that he had to kill them is part of the issue that he is struggling so much.
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Getting drunk and passing out on the side of an interstate is also probably not a good idea.
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In my screening of Logan the opening scene caused a guy in one of the front rows to stand up and scream incoherently. He settled down but took off his knit cap and revealed that he was a skinhead. Later he stood up again and was fiddling with something in his jacket pocket and then cops evacuated the theater. This is not a moviegoing experience that I would recommend.
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Someone took a toddler to my Logan screening. 
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I took a toddler to Valeria, it was a good decision
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Samuringa posted:Someone took a toddler to my Logan screening. I saw a woman shepherd a bunch of little kids to Deadpool, and it only took until the dildo holiday sex scene before she rushed them out of there, lol.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I took a toddler to Valeria, it was a good decision Sure but she was drawn like a 20 year old
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Samuringa posted:Someone took a toddler to my Logan screening. Jesus. Why would you do that? I felt like I needed a walk to clear my head after that movie. I can’t imagine how a kid would take it.
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I guess I just don't see how those guys had any chance at beating up Wolverine. Even old and broken Wolverine that can't heal as well has an unbreakable skeleton. They had a tire iron and guns. Plus it sets the tone that this ain't gonna be one of those movies where Wolverine goes on a bloodless killing spree. It's gonna be harsh and violent. In a weird comparison, it reminds me of Hancock. Yes obviously Hancock is going to stop all of those guys, because his basic power set is way above their level, but it's not really about the actual fight. Drunken Logan pleading with people not to mess up his poo poo car and taking bullets just to preserve his poo poo car is what I think you're meant to take away from it. But honestly if the argument is simply part of proving that Logan isn't "as deep as it thinks it is" then I'm not sure where to begin.
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Well I know someone who won't be seeing Black Panther because it is full of "black people jive."
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Mr Hootington posted:Well I know someone who won't be seeing Black Panther because it is full of "black people jive." I can't imagine Grampa gets out to the movies very often anyway.
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