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No Wave posted:I'm not going to bother arguing that mobility is useful, but this has been an intriguing insight into the mind of life funnlers. So...busted how?
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MMAgCh posted:The way she's animated looks like she is constantly sighing in exasperation. She stood watch over Illidan for ages, can you blame her?
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No Wave posted:Her Q seems beyond busted, like maybe there's a typo. Valla's W does 165 damage on a 12 second cooldown, Maiev's Q does 180 damage on a 4 or .5 second cooldown. That can't be right. Unlike Valla, Fan of Knives seems like Maiev's primary source of damage. Her other two abilities aren't really huge damage dealers and her autoattack is melee range unlike Valla who can shoot, use Hungering Arrow, and Multishot. John Murdoch posted:So...busted how? Reduced CD on Poison Spear gives you a fairly hefty chunk of damage on an even shorter cooldown, and landing spears also provides you with big bursts of fury to keep the slam train rolling longer. Being able to use the spear as a straight up movement ability means that even if someone does juke you it still functions as a gap-closer to chase people down and yeah, being able to use it as a pseudo escape is pretty useful as well. It does a whole lot of things together in a single talent.
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Yeah exactly. And just having the escape lets you move around maps and merc more freely (you're not invincible but it makes a big difference).
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Kyrosiris posted:Oh poo poo, the alt skin is a Diablo crossover. I knew it looked really similar to Vengeance Valla. It looks almost identical to the warrior tier 5 set from WoW.
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bamhand posted:It looks almost identical to the warrior tier 5 set from WoW. It's not nearly orange enough to be that
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Jan 26, 2018 23:40
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Maiev is going to supremely be my favorite
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Kai Tave posted:Unlike Valla, Fan of Knives seems like Maiev's primary source of damage. Her other two abilities aren't really huge damage dealers and her autoattack is melee range unlike Valla who can shoot, use Hungering Arrow, and Multishot.
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Maiev is going to destroy the level 1 all mid teamfights with Fan of Knives.
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Jan 26, 2018 23:49
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Elysium posted:Maiev is going to destroy the level 1 all mid teamfights with Fan of Knives. It's already the best part of the match as Chromie, so I'm ready for it as Maiev. 
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Jan 26, 2018 23:54
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Well, her alt skin doesn't show much in the way of tits but it is pretty skimpy. Call it a draw? 
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Maiev looks like a day one buy for me
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So what are we thinking on talents? Probably a slow-on-pull for her bind? An increased movespeed on her blink? Probably some stupid quest for her Q to hit so many heroes for extra damage, or lower it's reset requirement to two heroes?
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Jan 27, 2018 00:20
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A talent to give her shadow strike.
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She also gets 15 armor passively from Vault of the Wardens.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:So what are we thinking on talents? Probably a slow-on-pull for her bind? An increased movespeed on her blink? Probably some stupid quest for her Q to hit so many heroes for extra damage, or lower it's reset requirement to two heroes? The website is incorrect - Fan of Knives resets on 2+ hits, not 3+ hits. E: https://twitter.com/azgaz/status/957028347971649536 Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Jan 27, 2018 |
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Two is a huge difference from three. It's exponentially harder nope target. FoK sounds really strong on paper. Speaking of hitting multiple targets, how often is Johanna hitting 5 people with Punish? That talent is easily the hardest to complete in the game.
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bamhand posted:Two is a huge difference from three. It's exponentially harder nope target. FoK sounds really strong on paper. Not often, but I like it for the slow it gives you even without the quest being done.
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Absolutely day one buying Maiev. Not sure how good she'll be, but the playstyle looks right up my alley.
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bamhand posted:Two is a huge difference from three. It's exponentially harder nope target. FoK sounds really strong on paper. The reddit thread titled "Everyone: In one game I completed Bile Drop" had like 700 upvotes and 150+ comments where people wouldn't believe it.
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If you aren’t buying Maiev day one you are wrong Literally best Warcraft character
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but what if the closest thing ive ever played to a melee assassin is artanis
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Seebach posted:If you aren’t buying Maiev day one you are wrong Mrrglrr!!!* *gasp!
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Kerrrrrrr posted:but what if the closest thing ive ever played to a melee assassin is artanis It always takes getting used to melee assassins and Maiev is definitely looking a bit harder than some. That said I have faith in you to learn.
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maiev sucks I wish Garrosh had: A) Damage B) Wave clear C) Initiation D) Some kind of mobility Instead of just being a throw bot. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Jan 27, 2018 |
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Olaf The Stout posted:The reddit thread titled "Everyone: In one game I completed Bile Drop" had like 700 upvotes and 150+ comments where people wouldn't believe it. You used to be able to complete it on Vs AI, but they're very good at juking out of targeting reticles now.
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I hate that kind of poo poo. Just bump their health up It’s like Phantom Assassin from DOTA having a small mana pool but all her spells are cheap as poo poo. What’s the point Also Thrall is wicked i think as a melee assassin to learn. You figure out pretty quick when you can go in because it is like being killed instantly or killing three people on the enemy team and coming out of the fight at 75% life.
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Schneider Inside Her posted:I hate that kind of poo poo. Just bump their health up Armor makes healing much stronger on her. And stacking armor buffs is also stronger on her.
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Olaf The Stout posted:The reddit thread titled "Everyone: In one game I completed Bile Drop" had like 700 upvotes and 150+ comments where people wouldn't believe it. Some french GM zagara main takes bile drop without intending to complete it. He takes it for the 50% damage which helps push harder than 2 extra banelings. He doesn't usually take banelings talent at lvl 1 and picks infest instead.
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That French dude got me to start taking drop at 7 except vs Nova, where I take slows after the lvl 1 range. I like drop cdr at 1 if I'm going drop at 7. Infest can surprise solo laners who think they can fight inside your minions, but I find more often I'm trying to drop from range and never go toe to toe.
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Being a fan of Garrosh (though not his HotS gameplay so much), I like how apparently everyone pisses him off except Hanzo and Alarak. 
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bamhand posted:Armor makes healing much stronger on her. And stacking armor buffs is also stronger on her.
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Kurieg posted:You used to be able to complete it on Vs AI, but they're very good at juking out of targeting reticles now. AI is hilarious. I've been on a quest to GIT GUD at genji, and at this point I finally feel useful in qm, like I've done that chase-down-dudes-with-D-blade thing that looks real dope. But the AI against genji? Holy moly. If you E at ETC, he'll do his powerslide the literal microsecond after you hit E so that he stuns you mid dash. Same with Kaelthelas, he'll instant whirlwind stun you mid-dash. It's crazy. Speaking of ganji, what build do you guys like? I see a lot of good players recommending the E build, and maybe that is better in more organized play, but I found just going shurikan to get more consistent damage. Also lets you E in, and do enough Q damage to chunk people down in situations where no one is softening up enemies for you (which is almost always). tcjimbo posted:Some french GM zagara main takes bile drop without intending to complete it. He takes it for the 50% damage which helps push harder than 2 extra banelings. He doesn't usually take banelings talent at lvl 1 and picks infest instead. Yeah it's another quest like Jo's punishment or whatever, it gives a decent enough bonus without actually finishing it.
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I just played with the most annoying Zera ever. He would go stand near where he thought some enemies were, wait to go full stealth, and then blink closer. And then wait for blink to come off cooldown, and then blink closer. And then wait for blink to come off cooldown and blink closer.
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Elysium posted:I just played with the most annoying Zera ever. He would go stand near where he thought some enemies were, wait to go full stealth, and then blink closer. And then wait for blink to come off cooldown, and then blink closer. And then wait for blink to come off cooldown and blink closer. I played with a Malthiel a couple days ago who ignored the enemy team's Muradin the entire game in order to 1v1, and repeatedly lose to, the enemy Valeera.
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Elysium posted:I just played with the most annoying Zera ever. He would go stand near where he thought some enemies were, wait to go full stealth, and then blink closer. And then wait for blink to come off cooldown, and then blink closer. And then wait for blink to come off cooldown and blink closer. This is wonderful.
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Kai Tave posted:I played with a Malthiel a couple days ago who ignored the enemy team's Muradin the entire game in order to 1v1, and repeatedly lose to, the enemy Valeera. Don't focus the tank, idiots.
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I had someone yell at me for focusing the dps, which was a welcome change. Also had an Artanis rage out because I was nanna-boosting him.
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