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Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
bi people can be lesbians

source: im bi and im a lesbian

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Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)
Bisexuals are gay

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Wait a second how can Miko be a human and also a devil?

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince
It's true that some people engage in heterosexual relationships for sometimes long periods of time before coming to terms with their homosexuality, and that doesn't diminish that either.



but miko is probably bi yea

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince

Raxivace posted:

Wait a second how can Miko be a human and also a devil?

because she's a lesbian!

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
replace man with straight and devil with gay and that's my bi-centered reading of devilman

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince
i want matoi to add "- miko is a lesbian" to the thread title

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

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THESPIAN they meant to say



Thespian

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Alan_Shore posted:

How is Miko a lesbian when she went on a date and had feelings for the rapper guy and then hosed that skeezy dude? Are you using a different definition of lesbian?

Apparently Miko is a lesbian because lesbians can't be trans, if the last several pages are anything to go on.

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DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
U;hhhhhhhhhhb lmao maybe read people's posts

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)
The only heterosexual character is the turtle demon from Go Nagai World

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Apparently Miko is a lesbian because lesbians can't be trans, if the last several pages are anything to go on.

Lesbians can be trans for sure. But they are women.

Have some consistency with bad opinions at least

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

DisDisDis posted:

U;hhhhhhhhhhb lmao maybe read people's posts

You can read all the posts ITT, but it mostly just looks like everyone is talking past each other.

Nina posted:

Lesbians can be trans for sure. But they are women.

Have some consistency with bad opinions at least

Isn't this the problem with abusing a term like lesbian though? If Miko is a bisexual trans man, then does that mean she suddenly stops being a man if she has a romantic relationship with Miki? The terms are being abused for contrarianism's sake.

Pener Kropoopkin fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Jan 28, 2018

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)
”Miko is a man so she’s not gay” was a hilarious argument anyway since that would just make all her relations with men gay instead.

Miko is a woman btw, and a lesbian

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Apparently Miko is a lesbian because lesbians can't be trans, if the last several pages are anything to go on.

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Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

You can read all the posts ITT, but it mostly just looks like everyone is talking past each other.


Isn't this the problem with abusing a term like lesbian though? If Miko is a bisexual trans man, then does that mean she suddenly stops being a man if she has a romantic relationship with Miki? The terms are being abused for contrarianism's sake.

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Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

You can read all the posts ITT, but it mostly just looks like everyone is talking past each other.

I read all the posts, and it's actually that you're an idiot

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

And, lo, from out of the clouds Christ descended and said to His apostles: "Miko is a lesbian"

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



just finished watching and man idk how I feel about this show. there were definitely interesting/good parts but I think at some point the only reason I kept watching was because the animation was so good

it sure does ramp up fast in the last couple episodes, jeez

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

I agree, the show is pretty uneven but the back half of the show is great

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)
The show is super uneven but the back half is great, I appreciate the artistry that went into even the front half and it’s carried by the interesting, unusual characters. So overall I ended up somewhere in the range of ”yep I dig this”

I feel like ending well and having strong characters can absolutely save a story that loses its thread sometimes

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
*literally speaking to trans lesbians and people who are/have dated trans lesbians*

so you guys are saying you can't be trans and a lesbian?

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

I guess I'm just confused. Why not say Miko is bi? If she's a lesbian she's also straight, so isn't bi OK?

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Can some one confirm that Miko is a trans lesbian demon for me?

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)

tithin posted:

Can some one confirm that Miko is a trans lesbian demon for me?

It’s cool I can confirm it. Yuasa Devilman is my uncle

Alan_Shore posted:

I guess I'm just confused. Why not say Miko is bi? If she's a lesbian she's also straight, so isn't bi OK?

Because it’s a convenient umbrella term and a much stronger identifier than saying ”she’s bi”.

Hell as a gay trans woman who’s bisexual I just like to use it because it’s more comfortable to say ”I’m gay” due to how the word evokes a sense of community and sense of belonging to this queer social context that ”I’m bi” doesn’t incite

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Alan_Shore posted:

I guess I'm just confused. Why not say Miko is bi? If she's a lesbian she's also straight, so isn't bi OK?
Bi is totally okay, it's just a shorthand. I'm bi and refer to myself as gay constantly, partly as a comfortable term to relate myself to other queer people. I know it sounds wild to be straight, gay, lesbian and also bi, but it's 2018 baybee

Maybe that feeds into bi erasure, but what else is new

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Nina posted:

It’s cool I can confirm it. Yuasa Devilman is my uncle


Because it’s a convenient umbrella term and a much stronger identifier than saying ”she’s bi”.

Thanks op, the matter is now closed

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
Bisexuals are a lot like demons in that they merge with other, stronger sexualities to survive and that in modern society they are hiding everywhere in plain sight.

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013

Expect My Mom posted:

satan status:

feathers? preened
titties? out
penis? uncut

we out here

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

DisDisDis posted:

Bisexuals are a lot like demons in that they merge with other, stronger sexualities to survive and that in modern society they are hiding everywhere in plain sight.

The real bisexual could be right by your side.

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Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The real bisexual could be right by your side.

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Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)
Still really sad we never got like a fight scene with penises just flopping about as the characters zoom around. This would’ve been the right series for that

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

DisDisDis posted:

Bisexuals are a lot like demons in that they merge with other, stronger sexualities to survive and that in modern society they are hiding everywhere in plain sight.
finally, i feel valid

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Nina posted:

Still really sad we never got like a fight scene with penises just flopping about as the characters zoom around. This would’ve been the right series for that

Devilman gets a massive throbbing arm he punches Satan with from a snake demon.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

Alan_Shore posted:

I guess I'm just confused. Why not say Miko is bi? If she's a lesbian she's also straight, so isn't bi OK?

Mostly to spite that one poster tbh (who has a problem with THE GAY in particular).

And More
Jun 19, 2013

How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Apparently Miko is a lesbian because lesbians can't be trans, if the last several pages are anything to go on.

I feel like you need to read Judith Halberstam some time. Butch lesbians are not trans by default.

For reference, here are two lesbians:

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
I kind of like how this thread became worse than either Fate/UBW or the Apocrypha thread

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Expect My Mom posted:

finally, i feel valid

Gather your Bi comrades
Join up with transsatan

Fight god

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


As a straight white man, this show made me go nagay

And More
Jun 19, 2013

How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

Btw, I don't think it's reasonable to call Miko Bi just because she went to a rave with a dude and was forced at gunpoint to gently caress (and devour) some creepy hobo.

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Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)
That made me remember there are three identical looking characters in the show and I can’t figure out what the idea behind that was at all. I didn’t even realize Kukun died until someone told me hey these are totally unrelated people. How sad

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