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I hope he plays that Behold The Arctopus song with that thing and does it with 100% sincerity to make you mad.
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:I hope he plays that Behold The Arctopus song with that thing and does it with 100% sincerity to make you mad.
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Jan 28, 2018 09:45
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:I hope he plays that Behold The Arctopus song with that thing and does it with 100% sincerity to make you mad. That would be funny though.
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Jan 28, 2018 10:55
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Trig Discipline posted:I have no idea who he is and didn't realize that the guitar was supposed to be a joke. He's a reasonably talented musician with a reasonably smug and punchable face who makes viral skits on youtube with themes like "10 things bassists say in the studio" or "10 types of pop punk vocalists" and other observational humor, mostly from the metal scene. Like other youtube celebrity guitarists like Steve Terreberry, Rob Scallon and Kmac2021 he also has a strong fascination with "djent", that has long since stopped being a genre and started becoming a meme. Dines also does collaborative videos with his peers and a "guitar battle" jam-off called "shred wars". I haven't watched anything by him in a while (due to said punchability and not finding him that funny), but i saw Kmac2021 schooled him real good in the latest "shred wars" where Dines was doing cliched binary djent on his 8 string and Kmac was playing interesting and intricate riffs on a 6 string telecaster. Haha, just checked out the 17 string saga. This reporter has a good take on it, why didn't he just auction it off for charity instead of reacting like a literal child that his joke instrument that was to be used for a joke segment on his youtube channel wasn't a hand crafted labor of love that a dedicated luthier whittled out of the finest tone woods? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-zNTa0qBRc
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Jan 28, 2018 11:24
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honestly it's a brilliant marketing coup for ormsby to legit build that fuckin thing for him. i do wish jared dines would stop wearing snapback hats back to front though, he looks hello-fellow-kids as gently caress
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Jan 28, 2018 14:22
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:The guy who was claiming to be building his guitar was farming out previous orders to China but decided to just keep his money and not give him anything because ripping off someone with a huge social media presence couldn't possibly backfire. 
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Jan 28, 2018 17:38
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Jan 28, 2018 18:12
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It's just a cheapo Jackson, no harm done.
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Jan 28, 2018 18:19
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Jan 28, 2018 18:30
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 Maybe don't invite SunnO))) (the band) to demo your new products? JK JK I have no idea whose booth that was.
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Jan 28, 2018 20:03
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Are SunnO))) actually louder than Motörhead, Dinosaur Jr, the Melvins or early Isis? I actually remember being at an early (Oceanic-era) Isis show and having to break out the ear-plugs.
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Jan 28, 2018 20:20
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Wark Say posted:Are SunnO))) actually louder than Motörhead, Dinosaur Jr, the Melvins or early Isis? I actually remember being at an early (Oceanic-era) Isis show and having to break out the ear-plugs. There's some evidence suggest they're a little bit louder. For example, this copy of their backline diagram/technical rider from their 2005 tour says they play at 125dB stage volume: 
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Jan 28, 2018 21:26
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the one time i saw them they were about as loud as the melvins when they toured with david scott stone
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Jan 28, 2018 21:31
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motorhead wasn't actually louder than any other band but their setup was so mid-focused it sounded like they were. also mikkey dee's kick drum had a lot more impact since it wasn't fighting for space with the low end not sure if they intended it that way beyond that was the sound lemmy liked but it was pretty clever
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Jan 28, 2018 21:38
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It’s not just the volume but the frequency of Sunn, it makes weird internal parts of your body start vibrating. Like your sinuses will come alive all of a sudden.
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Jan 29, 2018 05:29
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Snowy posted:It’s not just the volume but the frequency of Sunn, it makes weird internal parts of your body start vibrating. Like your sinuses will come alive all of a sudden. My friend loves them and went to see them and it wasn't something he could describe properly, he just said everything was just shaking no matter where the gently caress you were in the venue. He had a video from the back of the venue of a cup of water on a table somewhere and it was straight up Jurassic Park poo poo. Sounds like a really cool thing to experience.
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Jan 29, 2018 06:08
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The video my friend took involved a pool table vibrating across the floor at the back as they played. I don't think they are really that much louder than any other band who have a decent PA set to stun (MBV, Mono, Boris etc.), but in terms of stage volume and intensity they're definitely doing their own thing. They get loud immediately and stay constant at that level for the whole show.
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Jan 29, 2018 08:28
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darkwasthenight posted:The video my friend took involved a pool table vibrating across the floor at the back as they played. I've worked with dozens or drummers and bassists and (OMFG) guitarists. The ability to be loud is not the ability to be good. I've personally kicked out sound guys who insisted on mic'ing and EQ'ing a piccolo snare to sound like an LA fat snare while also deafening our audience with piercing highs and ridiculous lows that their own subs couldn't handle without farting and making GBS threads. It was like a point of pride for these idiots. I mean, if being the loudest thing since a MOAB is your thing, then ok; good on ya; if that's what your audience is there for. THAT is some stupid music poo poo. I want to make music and I want people to hear it and feel it and be moved by it. I don't want them to think that the quality of the show has something to do with how many days their ears are still ringing after the last song. No, I am not the rear end in a top hat requiring everyone in the audience to have their own headphones for perfect fidelity. THAT is some stupid music poo poo. Now, PA systems have become quite monstrous in terms of SPL since then, but that doesn't make music sound good. P.S. - Every drummer who told me, with a proud smile, "I'm the loudest drummer you'll ever meet" couldn't play for poo poo and didn't last a full audition with my bandmates, because they couldn't play a song.
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Jan 29, 2018 11:04
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people are literally moved by it and physically feel it. maybe if your music only makes people metaphorically feel it you should get better at music?
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Jan 29, 2018 11:07
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I saw a band play called Beast in the Field, in a small to medium size venue. Drumset was miced, but the guitar player was not and played through 4 amp heads with 8 custom giant ported 4x12, and running and octave down pedal I think. To this day I have not experienced anything quite like it. It was the single loudest band I have seen, every note the guitar player played hit you in the chest like a hammer.
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Jan 29, 2018 11:44
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Dr. Faustus posted:That sound stupid as gently caress to me. I feel you 100% on this but honestly Sunn is a different case. The band might as well be a religion based on sound. Without the volume you’re not getting the experience live or on album. It’s all about the textures and atmosphere, the physical way that invisible sound waves can affect you. Like, the average band? gently caress no. Turn your poo poo down and play good music. But Sunn gets a pass because no one is doing what they do.
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Jan 29, 2018 12:03
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i like driving down the street blasting sunn so people think there's a refrigerator running somewhere near them
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Kilometers Davis posted:I feel you 100% on this but honestly Sunn is a different case. The band might as well be a religion based on sound. Without the volume you’re not getting the experience live or on album. It’s all about the textures and atmosphere, the physical way that invisible sound waves can affect you. Swans was also impressive for having a sound range of "pin drop quiet" slowly rising to "unrelenting wall of sound" and back down again, sometimes multiple times in the same song. Loud for the sake of loud is dumb but they used some serious dynamics for the live show.
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Jan 29, 2018 17:37
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Swans was the loudest show I'd ever seen until Boris. And I don't know if seeing Sleep last week was louder than Boris, but it was certainly close at least.
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Jan 29, 2018 18:41
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According to one of my lecturers many years ago, he saw Swans in the 80s and it was so loud the venue couldn't hear the telephones ringing with complaints about the volume.
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Jan 29, 2018 19:26
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NonzeroCircle posted:According to one of my lecturers many years ago, he saw Swans in the 80s and it was so loud the venue couldn't hear the telephones ringing with complaints about the volume. I don't know how people were able to order drinks at the bar at the venue where I saw Swans and Boris. Like those bartenders must have some crazy good hearing to be able to understand drink orders over immense volume like that. Or maybe they have good earplugs that makes it easier to manage. Because the bar at that venue isn't even super far away from the stage. Like there's the stage, then a pit area, then you step up and there's the bar in the center right behind the pit area with booths/seating on both sides of the bar.
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Snowy posted:It’s not just the volume but the frequency of Sunn, it makes weird internal parts of your body start vibrating. Like your sinuses will come alive all of a sudden. 
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Jan 29, 2018 20:38
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In the same few months I saw The Melvins and Dino, but both were blown away by the loudest concert I've ever heard: The K--Pop band BTS. Note that the band wasn't loud, it was the goddamn arena full of screaming girls.
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Jan 29, 2018 20:39
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Dr. Faustus posted:That sound stupid as gently caress to me. It's not a dick measuring contest it's about a specific physical experience.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:It's not a dick measuring contest it's about a specific physical experience. He’s trying to compare it to guitar shredder music, it’s never going to make sense.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:i like driving down the street blasting sunn so people think there's a refrigerator running somewhere near them
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Dr. Faustus posted:That sound stupid as gently caress to me. I mean, generally I agree with you to the point where my duo will actively avoid using amplification wherever possible, but Sunn and Swans are not making normal music. With Swans the dynamics and physicality is very much part of the presentation, and Sunn are almost going for a sensory deprivation kind of effect through sheer volume. I've been to loud shows before where I started hearing phantom melodies and overtone because my ears couldn't process the input properly even with plugs - Sunn are taking that to what you might call it's illogical conclusion.
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I thought the dynamic with Swans was raping women. edit: Michael Gira allegedly raped a friend of his who was on his label. Gira's defense was that he was drunk and can't remember but he definitely didn't do it. Sorry for being an edgelord. Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Jan 29, 2018 23:51
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All members of Sunn o))) are possessed by the ghosts of whales. You can't convince me otherwise.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:I thought the dynamic with Swans was raping women.
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Jan 30, 2018 00:57
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Dr. Faustus posted:their own subs couldn't handle without farting and making GBS threads What's the difference between a subwoofer farting and a subwoofer making GBS threads? A little tone foam comes out?
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I think I've just been marked by too many years of the "louder = better" crowd ruining shows I've attended or performed by going for volume for its own sake. If that's not the case with those other bands, so be it. Right here, see? Right here is where the evil sound man touched me. *points to butthole
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Dr. Faustus posted:I think I've just been marked by too many years of the "louder = better" crowd ruining shows I've attended or performed by going for volume for its own sake. If that's not the case with those other bands, so be it. I think both things are true here: the volume arms race is lame but Sunn isn’t really trying to be hyper masculine and the tag doesn’t apply to them imo.
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also their stage setup is typically just the two guitars and occasionally a vocal or synth so it's not like there's a ton of instruments competing to be heard over each other
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