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Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

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Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Tank Boy Ken posted:

You forgot to mention Goons. We surely are awful.

More like SOMEWHAT Awful :smuggo:

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Wait I hosed something up how do I edit posts.

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016


gently caress I don't know if I'll be able to rise out of my bed after this brutal takedown.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Zzr posted:

gently caress I don't know if I'll be able to rise out of my bed after this brutal takedown.

In recognition of this brutal takedown you're only required to rise to half mast.

A Neurotic Corncob
Nov 12, 2016

A light wind swept over the corn, and all nature laughed in the sunshine.
e;fb by miribot.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Feb 9th will be a day of infamy, where us goons feel grief.

SoftNum
Mar 31, 2011

The Titanic posted:

I can’t imagine the trial will be anything but a slaughter of CIG unless they can get it taken out by some technicality or tiny caveat.

The real barrier I see is Cry being able to prove that the licence was at a major discount, and that they are majorly up side down on this deal. It shouldn't be hard to prove, but we're still in the unknown.

Plus who knows what the judge/jury will find. I just want discovery so I can rub myself raw.

IncredibleIgloo posted:

Leonard actually seems pretty smart. All of the sudden he has been thrust into a situation where he has an interested audience whose most well defined characteristic is their ability and desire to throw money into hopes and dreams. He makes the appropriate distinctions that what he says are his interpretations only, and he is not a specialist in the field. Then he feeds them hopes and dreams. He is just taking advantage of a good deal.

This is afaik the same way he got his last laywery gig. I'm sure he was hoping (and still may be) to be brought on board as counsel for this.

SoftNum fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Jan 28, 2018

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Colostomy Bag posted:

I'm the worst kind of lawyer.

As the also equally worse kind of lawyer, I’d like to confirm this as true.

In fact just the other day after another failed case I was talking to Colostomy Bag over lunch at McDonald’s because this is all we can afford in our failure.

“Lost another one today,” I said around a French fry.

“Same,” Colostomy Bag added, eating his fish sandwich and shaking it up and down vigorously.

“I’m probably going to be disbarred, because I’m really loving bad at this,” I concluded with a sigh and a longing look at my .99 cent menu burger.

Colostomy Bag leaned in close to me, and whispered, “I’m not even on the bar. I just put out ads in the newspaper and sometimes people respond and I go to court, and then I just get torn up by like the dumbest payout there. Like the other day somebody was all Miranda Rights! Blah blah and I was all dude, Miranda isn’t even one of the plaintiffs and I laughed and the judge wasn’t laughing and he threw me out and the bailiff hit me with my Transformers lunch box I used to keep my notes in on my way out.”

I nodded, and said, “We’ll who’s Miranda and what’s that got to do with anything.”

“I know right!” He said and resumed finishing his fish in silence.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Colostomy Bag posted:

Feb 9th will be a day of infamy, where us goons feel grief.

This is Star Citizen, somehow CIG will get the date delayed.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7tmvw0/my_idea_nobody_will_agree_with_uec_on_blockchain/

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:


Makes the 4th Stimpire seem rational.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013




I don't reddit.

But in case they read here: "You're dumb"

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Colostomy Bag posted:

Makes the 4th Stimpire seem rational.

The 5th Stimpire is shaping up to exceed all expectations by at least a factor of three.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy



I saw this movie poster for some movie coming out on Feb 9, and there's a photoshop joke in there somewhere that I can't do because I'm not an artist

especially the part about "your darkest dream awaits you"

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat



When even the citizens think your idea is too stupid to live

e: lol, deleted

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

I'm the guy citing Chris' statements on the matter before returning to the thread about a major game feature being thrown out the window in a random forum post.

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016


sneakpeekbot doing good work there.

When you're so pro-Star Citizen you get wrecked by a forum bot, it's time to loving leave the internet, forever.

Semisponge
Mar 9, 2006

I FUCKING LOVE BUTTS
Ahhhh star citizen and cryptocurrencies, two great tastes that taste great together

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"


Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.


Fun fact the original snakes and ladders game is from the 13th century.

Beexoffel
Oct 4, 2015

Herald of the Stimpire
From Derek's blog, http://dereksmart.com/2018/01/star-citizen-the-fall/ , 60x350=$21,000 for what may be some two man-days of work.
That's less than they get in a similar amount of time, according to the funding tracker.
I think this can mean two things: an indication how far off the tracker is from their real income by showing how much work they are willing to put in to receice $21,000, or that they hope that those 60 elected Citizens will donate considerably more to make it outweigh regular funding.

SPERMCUBE.ORG
Nov 3, 2011

Space commies are th' biggest threat t' red-blooded American Freedom we got in th' future. So me and my boys got to talking over a few hot dogs the other day and this is what we came up with...

It's like when you have two groups of friends and you try to make them hang out with each other. Except this guy was victimized by two different scams and now he wants to wad them up into one big scam to simplify things.

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

Colostomy Bag posted:

French Goals.

french montoya

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Beexoffel posted:

From Derek's blog, http://dereksmart.com/2018/01/star-citizen-the-fall/ , 60x350=$21,000 for what may be some two man-days of work.
That's less than they get in a similar amount of time, according to the funding tracker.
I think this can mean two things: an indication how far off the tracker is from their real income by showing how much work they are willing to put in to receice $21,000, or that they hope that those 60 elected Citizens will donate considerably more to make it outweigh regular funding.

Christ that's the first time I've actually clicked one of those links. It's like scrolling through the thread's terrible afterbirth.

Anyways. 60 people are giving CIG $21,000 to cover the cost of pizza and having their reactions and thoughts recorded for the purposes of producing promotional material for CIG. I'm reluctant to associate the income and outgo of that singular event against their day to day operations.

SPERMCUBE.ORG
Nov 3, 2011

Space commies are th' biggest threat t' red-blooded American Freedom we got in th' future. So me and my boys got to talking over a few hot dogs the other day and this is what we came up with...

Beexoffel posted:

From Derek's blog, http://dereksmart.com/2018/01/star-citizen-the-fall/ , 60x350=$21,000 for what may be some two man-days of work.
That's less than they get in a similar amount of time, according to the funding tracker.
I think this can mean two things: an indication how far off the tracker is from their real income by showing how much work they are willing to put in to receice $21,000, or that they hope that those 60 elected Citizens will donate considerably more to make it outweigh regular funding.

I always thought vampire movies were unrealistic because how could all these grown-ups walk right into a vampire trap like they always do? But then there's this concierge dinner party... And the entrées are paying for the privilege! I'm telling you guys the attendees are going to disappear one by one throughout the night. Their exsanguinated corpses will alarm most but some stalwart heroes will dismiss these concerns as FUD. They're dead men. Ortwin is brilliant.

Also that's $21,000 that cannot be refunded.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

kw0134 posted:

We have a date for the hearing but it should be pretty perfunctory.

"So does the movant have anything to add? Be brief," says the Hon. Judge Gee with a tone of world-weariness that belies the length of this case, which seems to have already dragged on for years.
"You see Derek Smart..."
"No, stop, I don't care. You've already made clear that you're an idiot. Does plaintiff's counsel have anything to add to 'rebut' the statements made?"
"Naw, we think we've said our piece well enough the first time."
"Right, whatever. Motion to dismiss is denied, I'm setting a conference in two weeks to make sure all requests for discovery have been submitted and acknowledged, then we can start asking what dates the courtroom will be available for trial. Adjourned. Someone find one of my clerks, I know he has some 151 rum in a flask, I want some now. What are you waiting for, a written court order? Go."

At least that's how it'll go in my head.

Please correct me if I’m wrong anyone (especially lawgoons) but it seems to me like discovery itself would be an annihilating fire that consumed what remains of Chris Roberts’ tarnished reputation and denied him safe harbor even in the “at least they tried” respite for posterity. Even assuming Roberts felt CIG might only be at risk of minor damages for contract breaches, that seems secondary to his potential reputational damage if things excavated via discovery entered the public record, for the reason recently mentioned by nnnotime:

nnnotime posted:

When presented with business and ethical challenges Croberts always appears to favor the low road: "The backers will never know"....

Kotaku UK’s journalistic ‘discovery’ destroyed the false narrative propping up a Star Marine fiction and had Roberts looking flustered, foolish and more than a little fraudulent as it also put his past record of backer guidance into the harshest light possible. The same is true of Derek forcing Roberts public acknowledgement of his formerly hidden marriage to Sandi, a lie that told via constant acts of omission and one employees were coerced to support that looked sleazy, suspicious and ridiculous after exposure.

I may be operating under simplistic assumptions. I assume the case clears the motion to dismiss and goes to court, and then the big question is simply “will Crytek settle or not?” The unnecessarily provocative testiness in CIG’s replies may serve short term PR benefits with backers but doesn’t seem like it does them any favors at all if the MTD fails and they’re facing an antagonized Crytek in court. What possible confidence might Chris and Ortwin have in being vindication by due process if the cost of justice requires them to endure a discovery process that could unearth so very much that they’ve done while assuming “the backers will never know”?

Again, please correct if I’m misunderstanding the process side of this. The PR side seems pretty clear, and from that sense, “The backers must never know.”

SoftNum
Mar 31, 2011

I wonder how he proposes to solve the oracle problem. Especially in a realm where people are mad they can't steal other people's things forever.

Also I wonder how he expects new players to have money with which to play the game.

Oh wait he doesn't wonder any of this he is just an idiot.

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:

I always thought vampire movies were unrealistic because how could all these grown-ups walk right into a vampire trap like they always do? But then there's this concierge dinner party... And the entrées are paying for the privilege! I'm telling you guys the attendees are going to disappear one by one throughout the night. Their exsanguinated corpses will alarm most but some stalwart heroes will dismiss these concerns as FUD. They're dead men. Ortwin is brilliant.

Also that's $21,000 that cannot be refunded.

They need to feed the Ortwin until satiety before the trial.

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

tuo posted:

Nah, I just think that on the road to victory/ultimate wealth, something that seems minor at first glance will sink you.







:I'm just kidding with this allegation, but comparing SC to the Titanic is just so fitting.......

why do I get the funny notion thumb would hit a berg on the get away drive in the porsche? All speed ahead, bags o money in the back, backers will never know - Bang. CR and women and children to the life boats.

Beexoffel
Oct 4, 2015

Herald of the Stimpire

Dusty Lens posted:

Christ that's the first time I've actually clicked one of those links. It's like scrolling through the thread's terrible afterbirth.

Anyways. 60 people are giving CIG $21,000 to cover the cost of pizza and having their reactions and thoughts recorded for the purposes of producing promotional material for CIG. I'm reluctant to associate the income and outgo of that singular event against their day to day operations.

Promotional material, good one. So they're paying to be in a commercial. Smart.

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

Maybe they kept Ben around for an occasion like this ? For when Ortwin need a very big blood orgy.

Moxxis Endowment
Dec 11, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo
Ortwin is actually a tumor growing out of Ben's stomach a la Kuato.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Beexoffel posted:

Promotional material, good one. So they're paying to be in a commercial. Smart.

It's stated in no uncertain terms that they'll be recorded throughout the event. So even before you get into the idea that they're going to be pushing shares on these people or some theory like that the notion that they're paying good money to be in CIG's commercial appears to be fairly sorted.

It's mad.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

G0RF posted:

Please correct me if I’m wrong anyone (especially lawgoons) but it seems to me like discovery itself would be an annihilating fire that consumed what remains of Chris Roberts’ tarnished reputation and denied him safe harbor even in the “at least they tried” respite for posterity. Even assuming Roberts felt CIG might only be at risk of minor damages for contract breaches, that seems secondary to his potential reputational damage if things excavated via discovery entered the public record, for the reason recently mentioned by nnnotime:


Kotaku UK’s journalistic ‘discovery’ destroyed the false narrative propping up a Star Marine fiction and had Roberts looking flustered, foolish and more than a little fraudulent as it also put his past record of backer guidance into the harshest light possible. The same is true of Derek forcing Roberts public acknowledgement of his formerly hidden marriage to Sandi, a lie that told via constant acts of omission and one employees were coerced to support that looked sleazy, suspicious and ridiculous after exposure.

I may be operating under simplistic assumptions. I assume the case clears the motion to dismiss and goes to court, and then the big question is simply “will Crytek settle or not?” The unnecessarily provocative testiness in CIG’s replies may serve short term PR benefits with backers but doesn’t seem like it does them any favors at all if the MTD fails and they’re facing an antagonized Crytek in court. What possible confidence might Chris and Ortwin have in being vindication by due process if the cost of justice requires them to endure a discovery process that could unearth so very much that they’ve done while assuming “the backers will never know”?

Again, please correct if I’m misunderstanding the process side of this. The PR side seems pretty clear, and from that sense, “The backers must never know.”

The answer lies in Chris Roberts irredeemable garbage soul, and Ortwin's blind greed. It's really that simple, and no more complicated than it needs to be. Chris Roberts thinks - no, he knows - that he's making a game. Similarly, Ortwin knows he's a mighty untouchable lawyer who equates making a demand on a conference call with unilateral acquiescence of said demands. Neither cares about anything else - they don't see anything else, and they don't understand anything else. Chris has been instructed to act as if the lawsuit is a foregone conclusion, and Ortwin is prepared to save his own skin if the game doesn't go his way. Discovery is "irrelevant" for similar reasons - Chris doesn't think he did anything wrong, and Ortwin won't be the guy directly responsible for the undead horde of financial skeletons discovery will reveal.

This is nothing more than blindness and arrogance. To search for deeper meaning is pointless. Chris can't see what's in front of him, backers see things that aren't there, everyone else sees what is there and doesn't see what isn't. The courts are in the last category. It's unlikely the members of the first two will ever wake up.

Viscous Soda
Apr 24, 2004

Taintrunner posted:

In Actual Space Games You Can Play news, Helium Rain is on Steam Early Access for fifteen bucks and has some pretty rad space battles in skirmish mode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDdDcimaqk

You can also build space stations and stuff in sandbox mode, here's a cool screenshot I took



Okay, probably a bit late on this, but I love the way this sounds. No Star Wars-y "Pewpewpew, whoosh, zoom!" bullshit, you hear yourself firing your weapons and being hit by incoming shots. Like it would actually be in space.

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

That's why Sandi the souless made him eat without regard for his health. It was to grow the blood pinata.

Moxxis Endowment
Dec 11, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

Zzr posted:

That's why Sandi the souless made him eat without regard for his health. It was to grow the blood pinata.
We should make a scary children's book with all these colorful characters in it.

Beexoffel
Oct 4, 2015

Herald of the Stimpire

Dusty Lens posted:

It's stated in no uncertain terms that they'll be recorded throughout the event. So even before you get into the idea that they're going to be pushing shares on these people or some theory like that the notion that they're paying good money to be in CIG's commercial appears to be fairly sorted.

It's mad.

Next up, they'll ask Citizens to pay for travel and Chris will visit them at home. Preference goes to Citizens living near the Mediterranean.

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Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

The Titanic posted:

As the also equally worse kind of lawyer, I’d like to confirm this as true.

In fact just the other day after another failed case I was talking to Colostomy Bag over lunch at McDonald’s because this is all we can afford in our failure.

“Lost another one today,” I said around a French fry.

“Same,” Colostomy Bag added, eating his fish sandwich and shaking it up and down vigorously.

“I’m probably going to be disbarred, because I’m really loving bad at this,” I concluded with a sigh and a longing look at my .99 cent menu burger.

Colostomy Bag leaned in close to me, and whispered, “I’m not even on the bar. I just put out ads in the newspaper and sometimes people respond and I go to court, and then I just get torn up by like the dumbest payout there. Like the other day somebody was all Miranda Rights! Blah blah and I was all dude, Miranda isn’t even one of the plaintiffs and I laughed and the judge wasn’t laughing and he threw me out and the bailiff hit me with my Transformers lunch box I used to keep my notes in on my way out.”

I nodded, and said, “We’ll who’s Miranda and what’s that got to do with anything.”

“I know right!” He said and resumed finishing his fish in silence.
It's like I was there.

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