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Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




the proper air force for canada is a bunch of helicopters rusting out in halifax

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
:canada: SeaKing :canada:

EvidenceBasedQuack
Aug 15, 2015

A rock has no detectable opinion about gravity
How about we strap on lasers on a flock of Canada Geese?

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




now im a broken copter on a halifax piiiiiiiieeeeeer

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
... The last of Irving's privateers.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
gently caress yeah seaking

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Reality Loser posted:

gently caress yeah seaking

The Canadian one evolves into Goldsink

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
ive been to canada

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
I'm so sorry

Ill Peripheral
Jun 29, 2008
Reading this article about how ICBC just lost a billion dollars in 9 months, how does insurance work in that province? Like, I know there is pretty well no way I'm making a claim on anything less than severe damage to my vehicle, since I'm likely going to pay say a replacement bumper multiple times over in a rate increase over the amount of years it takes for my insurance to drop back down.

Does it work like this over there? Or is ICBC just very soft? Avg. Ontario insurance isn't that much more than BC's, so I don't get how they can be eating this much poo poo.

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Squizzle posted:

the proper air force for canada is a bunch of helicopters rusting out in halifax

every time I see one buzz the harbour I can’t take my eyes off it, thinking it’ll fall in

Tochiazuma
Feb 16, 2007

EvidenceBasedQuack posted:

How about we strap on lasers on a flock of Canada Geese?

They would turn on us in a second

They're already waging a bombing campaign of poo poo

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Ill Peripheral posted:

Reading this article about how ICBC just lost a billion dollars in 9 months, how does insurance work in that province?

The BC Libs were using it as a piggy bank for a little while, so I'm sure that didn't help. My understanding is that rates are going up to try and plug the gap now.

EvidenceBasedQuack
Aug 15, 2015

A rock has no detectable opinion about gravity

Tochiazuma posted:

They would turn on us in a second

They're already waging a bombing campaign of poo poo

Can't we mind control them with chemtrails, GMOs, or wifi signal? Ask EMay

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

nesaM killed Masen

Ill Peripheral posted:

Reading this article about how ICBC just lost a billion dollars in 9 months, how does insurance work in that province? Like, I know there is pretty well no way I'm making a claim on anything less than severe damage to my vehicle, since I'm likely going to pay say a replacement bumper multiple times over in a rate increase over the amount of years it takes for my insurance to drop back down.

Does it work like this over there? Or is ICBC just very soft? Avg. Ontario insurance isn't that much more than BC's, so I don't get how they can be eating this much poo poo.

Combo of a fuckload of expensive cars getting wrecked that don't pay an appropriate and proportionate amount into the insurance system, no cap on personal injury claims, and the BC Liberals stealing from their coffers.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Hand Knit posted:

I mean the dude who wrote eight increasingly-syphilitic autobiographies does seem on brand for Professor Peterson.



I forget is syphilis one of the darwinian truths or is it not because you go insane and die from it

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Ill Peripheral posted:

Reading this article about how ICBC just lost a billion dollars in 9 months, how does insurance work in that province? Like, I know there is pretty well no way I'm making a claim on anything less than severe damage to my vehicle, since I'm likely going to pay say a replacement bumper multiple times over in a rate increase over the amount of years it takes for my insurance to drop back down.

Does it work like this over there? Or is ICBC just very soft? Avg. Ontario insurance isn't that much more than BC's, so I don't get how they can be eating this much poo poo.
https://www.straight.com/news/1025306/martyn-brown-short-thought-bcs-icbc-fiasco-guaranteed-drive-you-nuts

quote:

Because as Rob Shaw reported, some seven pages of controversial recommendations from a December 2014 draft Ernst & Young report, which were aimed at addressing ICBC’s rapidly escalating fiscal crunch, were arbitrarily “scrubbed” from the final report that went public.

Those urgently needed actions to cut ICBC’s rising claims costs were hidden from B.C.taxpayers, arbitrarily rejected, and unilaterally deleted from the March 2015 final report by former finance minister and current Liberal leadership hopeful, Mike de Jong.

He admits as much, incredibly, making no apologies. He almost seems proud of his perfidy, doing his own best impression of a human airbag.

If then transportation minister and current co-leadership contender Todd Stone is to be believed, that draft report was doctored by de Jong without his knowledge.

He claims he never even saw that unvarnished analysis, despite the fact that he was the minister who commissioned it. He suggests that he was essentially hoodwinked by de Jong and willfully kept in the dark like the happy mushroom he was.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
canada's motto should be "we have no creativity and are very unambitious"

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
if you read about the history of nationalism you will find that by far one of the most potent forces for forging a national identity is having an other to define yourself against, it doesn't matter if the things you think about the other are true or not as long as you can stereotype them and say "i know im british because im not one of those loving french people" and this toxic exceptionalism sinks in to your culture and before you know it presto you're a nation mostly defined by reifying whatever it is that sets you apart from the people you hate

there is no better poster child for this than canada

we could be 192/193 on some UN ranking and as long as america was 193rd we would see it as a huge accomplishment

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

vyelkin posted:

canada's motto should be "we have no creativity and are very unambitious"

This fits the voyageurs too well to not be real IMO

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Squizzle posted:

the proper air force for canada is a bunch of helicopters rusting out in halifax

i mean we've seen how having an actual military worked out for america, i think we should stick with our poo poo one

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

i mean yes we're not really helping either the usa or whoever they're turbofucking when we're sitting off to the side making plane noises in a cardboard box but we're not making things worse either, for once

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Yinlock posted:

i mean yes we're not really helping either the usa or whoever they're turbofucking when we're sitting off to the side making plane noises in a cardboard box but we're not making things worse either, for once

remember how it was supposed to be a big scandal that trudeau withdrew our six planes that can barely fly from bombing isis lmao

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

vyelkin posted:

we could be 192/193 on some UN ranking and as long as america was 193rd we would see it as a huge accomplishment

That'd be the "Who is least like the Americans" index.

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
My identity!

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Dreylad posted:



I forget is syphilis one of the darwinian truths or is it not because you go insane and die from it

"Death isn't real," I repeat to myself as I prepare to win yet another argument with my lobster-style kung fu.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
Nice to see the CBC finally doing something productive, helping Peterson sell more books

http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1147971651734

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




oh.

canada?

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Here is an interesting article
https://hssh.journals.yorku.ca/index.php/hssh/article/viewFile/4218/3416

Roots Nationalism: Branding English Canada Cool in the 1980s and 1990s

WE THE NORTH BABY WOOO

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Members of the Waffle, a socialist movement within the New Democratic Party, believed that nationalism and socialism would go hand in hand to create a radical new nation.9

:thunk:

Fun footnote facts:
Roots operates out of Canada, but is owned by two Americans. In 1995 the American conglomerate Wendy’s purchased Tim Hortons. Molson is actually Molson Coors, the fifth largest brewery in the world.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

paul_soccer10 posted:

Members of the Waffle, a socialist movement within the New Democratic Party, believed that nationalism and socialism would go hand in hand to create a radical new nation.9

:thunk:

fun fact: 'NDP' is also the initials of germany's oldest neonazi party

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

paul_soccer10 posted:

Here is an interesting article
https://hssh.journals.yorku.ca/index.php/hssh/article/viewFile/4218/3416

Roots Nationalism: Branding English Canada Cool in the 1980s and 1990s

WE THE NORTH BABY WOOO

idk how on earth you could write an article like that and not cite michael billig but somehow they managed it

Zajajaja
Jan 10, 2008
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/polit...be-f21defec7900


Just introduce the superdelegates already Trudeau.

"What about your constituents???"

quote:

Now, there are 183 Liberal MPs and they’ve been lobbying hard for a reprieve from nomination contests, arguing that they shouldn’t have to waste time fighting off potential challengers while they’re supposed to be in Ottawa working on government business — particularly when a 2016 change in party membership rules has made it much easier for an individual to mount a challenge.

"Im too tired, im like done, just done, so done right now. *shitposts on twitter*"

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

vyelkin posted:

if you read about the history of nationalism you will find that by far one of the most potent forces for forging a national identity is having an other to define yourself against, it doesn't matter if the things you think about the other are true or not as long as you can stereotype them and say "i know im british because im not one of those loving french people" and this toxic exceptionalism sinks in to your culture and before you know it presto you're a nation mostly defined by reifying whatever it is that sets you apart from the people you hate

there is no better poster child for this than canada

we could be 192/193 on some UN ranking and as long as america was 193rd we would see it as a huge accomplishment

reading 19th century american history, it's remarkable how america then is canada now, except america constantly defined itself as Not Britain. It wasn't until the US became a global power and it could cast itself as a world leader (now in opposition to non-Wilsonian democratic ideas) it left that behind.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
"we the north" is a banal nationalistic slogan that says the most fundamental thing about canadian identity is our geographic location relative to the united states

Dreylad posted:

reading 19th century american history, it's remarkable how america then is canada now, except america constantly defined itself as Not Britain. It wasn't until the US became a global power and it could cast itself as a world leader (now in opposition to non-Wilsonian democratic ideas) it left that behind.

yeah that's really interesting

another thing I found interesting reading Linda Colley's Britons recently was how she situated British exceptionalism as particularly toxic because Britain was never forced to confront the evils it inflicted on others by losing a war and/or being occupied by a hostile power, whereas almost every other European country faced defeat and occupation at one point or another, whether in whole or in part, and usually in the 20th century, which tended to have a hugely humbling effect on myths of national power and superiority. Even when Britain lost wars, they lost them overseas and never suffered the humiliation or severe civilian casualties and repression of countries that lost land wars on their own territory, which meant they could perpetuate the myth of British exceptional glory and nationalist chauvinism without consequences, leading to continuing present thoughts that Britain can do everything on its own and doesn't need anyone else

she wrote the book in 1992 but the parallels to both Brexit and contemporary American nationalism stunned me while I was reading it

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

vyelkin posted:

"we the north" is a banal nationalistic slogan that says the most fundamental thing about canadian identity is our geographic location relative to the united states

yeah but the raptors are really good this year.

vyelkin posted:

yeah that's really interesting

another thing I found interesting reading Linda Colley's Britons recently was how she situated British exceptionalism as particularly toxic because Britain was never forced to confront the evils it inflicted on others by losing a war and/or being occupied by a hostile power, whereas almost every other European country faced defeat and occupation at one point or another, whether in whole or in part, and usually in the 20th century, which tended to have a hugely humbling effect on myths of national power and superiority. Even when Britain lost wars, they lost them overseas and never suffered the humiliation or severe civilian casualties and repression of countries that lost land wars on their own territory, which meant they could perpetuate the myth of British exceptional glory and nationalist chauvinism without consequences, leading to continuing present thoughts that Britain can do everything on its own and doesn't need anyone else

she wrote the book in 1992 but the parallels to both Brexit and contemporary American nationalism stunned me while I was reading it

That is interesting! Does she touch on the Falklands War? That's contemporary American foreign policy to a T, except far more explicit in its attempt to remind everyone of British imperial power, but was perfect for taming domestic strife over the fact that a good chunk of the country's industry was gutted by greed.

Dreylad has issued a correction as of 17:01 on Jan 29, 2018

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Dreylad posted:

yeah but the raptors are really good this year.

they are and its funny trying to watch them from here in the us because american commentators are basically like "lol who are these guys and why are they 2nd in the east ahead of LeBron?????"

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

vyelkin posted:

"we the north" is a banal nationalistic slogan that says the most fundamental thing about canadian identity is our geographic location relative to the united states

I will say that broadly speaking "the north" as imagined place within Canadian nationalist mythology has always resonated with post-1918 Canadian nationalists. despite the fact that 90% of canadians live within 100k of the American border, we identify ourselves as a nordic people, and the north exists in our culture and history the same way the wild west exists for American history and culture, complete with cowboys and indians.

my favourite example of this is the NFB's City of Gold narrated by Pierre Berton.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Dreylad posted:

I will say that broadly speaking "the north" as imagined place within Canadian nationalist mythology has always resonated with post-1918 Canadian nationalists. despite the fact that 90% of canadians live within 100k of the American border, we identify ourselves as a nordic people, and the north exists in our culture and history the same way the wild west exists for American history and culture, complete with cowboys and indians.

my favourite example of this is the NFB's City of Gold narrated by Pierre Berton.

I would argue that a substantial portion of this is because our culture is so similar to American culture that one of the few things we have to define us as a people is our existence north of an imagined line, so "north" in Canadian nationalism isn't solely the frontier idea of the outdoorsman and pioneer and voyageur, it's also the idea that we're essentially the northern fringe of the united states, as you say, clinging to the border, but we try to differentiate ourselves culturally by defining ourselves as northern compared to southern based on the political but not really geographical border, much the same way many europeans define themselves as western rather than eastern (you could easily imagine an alt-right type white nationalist using the slogan "we the west", for example)

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DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Electronic voting is a bad idea right? Like I feel like everyone around me thinks it's the greatest poo poo ever, but any situation I can dream up doesn't allow for someone to vote in secret without some ridiculous skype session with a volunteer or some other stupid poo poo.

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