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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I dunno. I read a book on the fall of Nixon and the rise of Reagan, and honestly I get the impression that things wouldn't have had to go too much differently for Nixon to have been able to skate out of trouble on Watergate and manage to finish his second term. There were a lot of people who were willing to just look the other way on that issue.
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god drat it how did i gently caress up edit/quote
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 19:58 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:There were a lot of people who were willing to just look the other way on that issue. as ultimately borne out by ford's pardon.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 19:59 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:god drat it how did i gently caress up edit/quote by pushing the wrong button, presumably.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 20:01 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:god drat it how did i gently caress up edit/quote gets it in the new page, I suppose
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 20:05 |
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At the same time as we're saying people "must access" the internet there's still like 12% of the US population that doesn't access it at all at home or work. They might interact with specific sites on rare occasions at government facilities or with relatives but they're not online, sometimes ever.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 20:07 |
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fishmech posted:At the same time as we're saying people "must access" the internet there's still like 12% of the US population that doesn't access it at all at home or work. They might interact with specific sites on rare occasions at government facilities or with relatives but they're not online, sometimes ever. ya, and tbqh i would at this point be unsurprised if this group actually grows. though it is unclear whether that means anything much other that essential services not being able to assume that people are more than minimally online
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 20:35 |
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fishmech posted:At the same time as we're saying people "must access" the internet there's still like 12% of the US population that doesn't access it at all at home or work. They might interact with specific sites on rare occasions at government facilities or with relatives but they're not online, sometimes ever. and we've got a ton of people who complain loudly when a poor person has a smartphone even though it's probably the cheapest way to get on the internet that they have to use.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 20:35 |
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Elder Postsman posted:and we've got a ton of people who complain loudly when a poor person has a smartphone even though it's probably the cheapest way to get on the internet that they have to use. this at the same time true, the fraction of people who are not "online" will likely shift to being richer people
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 20:39 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:we're almost certainly in the dawn of a far more regressive world when it comes to globally sharing information, and as a progressive i find myself, surprisingly, on the regressive side of that argument maybe information just wants 2 b free, ever consider that huh?
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 20:39 |
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fishmech posted:At the same time as we're saying people "must access" the internet there's still like 12% of the US population that doesn't access it at all at home or work. They might interact with specific sites on rare occasions at government facilities or with relatives but they're not online, sometimes ever. in denmark all govt mail has been electronic for a couple years & you need a nemID to do any interaction with public services. you can get it deferred though if youre super old or something we do have the advantage that there are no places without broadband access tho
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 20:49 |
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Krankenstyle posted:maybe information just wants 2 b free, ever consider that huh? makes u think
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 20:51 |
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fishmech posted:At the same time as we're saying people "must access" the internet there's still like 12% of the US population that doesn't access it at all at home or work. They might interact with specific sites on rare occasions at government facilities or with relatives but they're not online, sometimes ever. of that figure, how many people simply can't get access due to geographical or financial issues vs old people who want to pretend that it's still 1973 or crazy survivalist nuts in shacks that don't even have electricity?
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 21:39 |
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you can still get an obamaphone, can't you?
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 21:41 |
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Bhodi posted:you can still get an obamaphone, can't you? you've been able to get phones through that program since the reagan era iirc.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 21:44 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:you've been able to get phones through that program since the reagan era iirc. and the expansion of that program to cell phones happened while bush jr was in office, not on obama's watch
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 21:47 |
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Didn't Obama increase access/eligibility which prompted all the backlash?
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 21:58 |
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Didn't Obama increase access/eligibility which prompted all the backlash? No, he was black which prompted all the backlash. Hth.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:00 |
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i think it was the change to smart phones instead of feature phones because the smartphones were cheaper
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:00 |
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hobbesmaster posted:i think it was the change to smart phones instead of feature phones because the smartphones were cheaper no it was just straight up racism in 2009 when it started up. thats when obamaphone.com and other things sprung up about this waste of taxpayer dollars that included all the dogwhistle stereotypes crowing about their new obamaphones and free cell minutes.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:06 |
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At what point does a dog whistle become a straight up steam kettle lol
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:21 |
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Krankenstyle posted:in denmark all govt mail has been electronic for a couple years & you need a nemID to do any interaction with public services. you can get it deferred though if youre super old or something I don't see how that'd be incompatible with say, old person who goes down to local town hall to use their computer tho?? The_Franz posted:of that figure, how many people simply can't get access due to geographical or financial issues vs old people who want to pretend that it's still 1973 or crazy survivalist nuts in shacks that don't even have electricity? Very few. It is similar to the rates of people not owning/using any computer or smartphone at all. Seeing as if you're poor or even just stingy you can get a (garbage, old, but functioning) smartphone for $20 at a Walmart or 711 and then there's the free phones from the government programs, it's not really an issue of not being affordable.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:21 |
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I’m really loving sleep deprived today. when i first saw this out of the corner of my eye i genuinely thought i was cracking up.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:23 |
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President Beep posted:I’m really loving sleep deprived today. when i first saw this out of the corner of my eye i genuinely thought i was cracking up. Ambertrash raus.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:25 |
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such an oddball avatar that i didn't realize they were different posters until you pointed it out
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:25 |
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fishmech posted:I don't see how that'd be incompatible with say, old person who goes down to local town hall to use their computer tho?? i think some olds do, if they dont have computers. some like my grandma get family to click butans. i cant find the deferment reqs right now, but i think theyve been restricting them further as time passes or its birth-year based maybe
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:31 |
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Schadenboner posted:Ambertrash raus. gently caress! i've outed myself!
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:34 |
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Schadenboner posted:Ambertrash raus. wrong, amberpos best pos
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:48 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:such an oddball avatar that i didn't realize they were different posters until you pointed it out there are still dozens of goons on riker's island.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:58 |
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You Am I posted:wrong, amberpos best pos
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:58 |
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Schadenboner posted:Ambertrash raus. looks like the table have turned.
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:59 |
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it's gotta be black on black anarchypos
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 22:59 |
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grope about looking at av's only, in the plato's cave of postin
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 23:00 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:such an oddball avatar that i didn't realize they were different posters until you pointed it out everyone that posted on a couple of pages in the ffxiv thread got one
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 23:00 |
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hobbesmaster posted:everyone that posted on a couple of pages in the ffxiv thread got one what an absolutely brutal self-own
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 23:02 |
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You Am I posted:wrong, amberpos best pos
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 23:03 |
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hobbesmaster posted:everyone that posted on a couple of pages in the ffxiv thread got one dang there's like at least three levels of ownage, two being self-inflicted
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# ? Jan 29, 2018 23:04 |
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there were nearly triple digit numbers of posters in the ffxiv to get some variant of riker. ffxiv is a cool and good game.
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# ? Jan 30, 2018 00:21 |
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gently caress gently caress xrap idiot vhatever
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Mr. Nice! posted:there were nearly triple digit numbers of posters in the ffxiv to get some variant of riker. ffxiv is a cool and good game. what’s up with his eyes?
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