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It's cool that Churchill gets all the credit for winning the war despite not fighting in it and his only actual involvement in the war was a disaster predicated on the racist assumption that turks were physically incapable of shooting their white superiors
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nopantsjack posted:It's cool that Churchill gets all the credit for winning the war despite not fighting in it and his only actual involvement in the war was a disaster predicated on the racist assumption that turks were physically incapable of shooting their white superiors I'm glad we finally got to the stage in history that the world wars were actually one war now. Lawman 0 has issued a correction as of 17:06 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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Jan 29, 2018 17:00
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Lawman 0 posted:I'm we finally got to the stage in history that the world wars were actually one war now. tbh a not entirely inaccurate summary
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Jan 29, 2018 17:02
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Lawman 0 posted:I'm we finally got to the stage in history that the world wars were actually one war now. Well we do lump in the 30 Years War as one event, even though it was a series of wars.
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Jan 29, 2018 17:05
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Well we do lump in the 30 Years War as one event, even though it was a series of wars. The 30 years war was more like the Napoleonic Wars in terms of being a really drawn out conflict involving a series of bizarre coalitions.
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Jan 29, 2018 17:09
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Shocking disrespect to our greatest wartime leader, Clement Attlee. Boris must apologise.
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Jan 29, 2018 17:14
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nopantsjack posted:It's cool that Churchill gets all the credit for winning the war despite not fighting in it and his only actual involvement in the war was a disaster predicated on the racist assumption that turks were physically incapable of shooting their white superiors Churchill did in fact fight in WWI. After Gallipoli and losing his position as First Lord of the Admiralty, he managed to get appointed Major (brevetted to Lt. Colonel) in the Royal Scots Fusiliers and did six months in the trenches. And frankly I'm puzzled that you'd think Churchill gets any credit at all for winning WWI. He came out of it almost wholly-unrehabilitated for the Dardanelles disaster and spent most of the 20s in the political wilderness as a consequence.
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Jan 29, 2018 17:26
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forkboy84 posted:Shocking disrespect to our greatest wartime leader, Clement Attlee. Boris must apologise. 
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Jan 29, 2018 17:27
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im glad someone is helping the homeless. i am very glad.
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What baffles me about the Churchill myth is that he didn't even declare war on Germany! I bet a lot of thumbs wouldn't be able to tell you that. Lt. Danger posted:tbh a not entirely inaccurate summary Don't buy into Stephen Ambrose's "European Civil War" hypothesis, it's pretty discredited now. The two conflicts happened for very different reasons and there was nothing inevitable about WWII after WWI
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Jan 29, 2018 17:31
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MikeCrotch posted:Don't buy into Stephen Ambrose's "European Civil War" hypothesis, it's pretty discredited now. The two conflicts happened for very different reasons and there was nothing inevitable about WWII after WWI Absolutely. Fascism was aided and abetted.
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Jan 29, 2018 17:33
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Barry Foster posted:Media constantly wrong footed by man who has been uncompromising in his positions throughout his entire political career interviewer: c'mon jeremy don't you think that anyone is subhuman scum??? *eagerly awaits jezza's confession that he is a lizardperson* the absolute boy: no Jazerus has issued a correction as of 18:16 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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Jan 29, 2018 18:13
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Lawman 0 posted:Absolutely. but the commies!!!!!
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Jan 29, 2018 18:15
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MikeCrotch posted:The two conflicts happened for very different reasons and there was nothing inevitable about WWII after WWI A Buttery Pastry has issued a correction as of 19:40 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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Jan 29, 2018 19:37
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solution to brexit, cede the uk to malta
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Jan 29, 2018 20:42
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nopantsjack posted:It's cool that Churchill gets all the credit for winning the war despite not fighting in it and his only actual involvement in the war was a disaster predicated on the racist assumption that turks were physically incapable of shooting their white superiors The Brits are a close 2nd for worst loving actor in WWII. Right-o, let's give Hitler everything he wants and then when he attacks let's run away and only fight when our overseas interests are endangered.
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Jan 29, 2018 20:55
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Frijolero posted:The Brits are a close 2nd for worst loving actor in WWII. well there's a lot of ideological similarity between the third reich and the british empire it's like a war between brothers
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zeal posted:well there's a lot of ideological similarity between the third reich and the british empire The amount of chumminess that happened between the British aristocracy and the Nazi leadership is astounding.
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Jan 29, 2018 21:08
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zeal posted:well there's a lot of ideological similarity between the third reich and the british empire Not for nothing did Hitler expect first that Britain would let him do whatever he wanted in the east, and when the war started that they'd capitulate on reasonable terms after the fall of France. And if Halifax had had his way, they might well have, so despite almost everything else about him, it was probably worth having Churchill around at that point.
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Jan 29, 2018 21:09
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Frijolero posted:The amount of chumminess that happened between the British aristocracy and the Nazi leadership is astounding. I was thinking more of the complete acceptance of fascist Italy but continue
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Jan 29, 2018 21:28
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Frijolero posted:The Brits are a close 2nd for worst loving actor in WWII. Worse than the Japanese Empire, fascist Italy and Stalin's Russia?
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Jan 29, 2018 21:40
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Probably 4th and honestly Romania was probably worse than italy (and probably fought better) as well.
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Jan 29, 2018 21:45
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Lawman 0 posted:Probably 4th and honestly Romania was probably worse than italy (and probably fought better) as well. What did Romania do?
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Jan 29, 2018 21:57
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The aristocracy, including some very high level people like Edward, loved the Nazis and formed actual families and friendships with them. Meanwhile, the political elite appeased Hitler and acted very cynically throughout the entirety of the war. You can argue that Churchill at least antagonized Hitler, but lol that fat piece of poo poo spent most of his time protecting colonial resources and letting everyone else do the actual fighting. Whorelord posted:Worse than the Japanese Empire, fascist Italy and Stalin's Russia? The USSR defeated the Nazis so they're easily #1 Best WWII Nation. Japan is tied with Germany for #1 Worst. Italy is close 3rd because ultimately they hosed themselves more than they hosed anyone else (And their greatest crime, the Invasion of Abyssinia, happened under the UK and France's silent approval and was ultimately legitimized by both the UK and France).
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Lawman 0 posted:Probably 4th and honestly Romania was probably worse than italy (and probably fought better) as well.
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Jan 29, 2018 22:07
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tarbrush posted:What did Romania do? Kill shitton of Roma, Jews and Ukrainians (I think they were promised a chunk of Ukraine right?) before pulling an Italian style switchero
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Jan 29, 2018 22:29
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The stuff the axis minor partners did should really get more attention imo
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italy is actually the best because if germany hadn't had to pull a bunch of their units out of russia to go save italy in the caucusus, moscow prolly would have fallen and ww2 would have prolly taken another few years to end
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Jan 29, 2018 22:50
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Lawman 0 posted:The stuff the axis minor partners did should really get more attention imo We should've nuked Croatia.
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Jan 29, 2018 23:02
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loudly exclaiming that the balkans did something horrible again
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Looks like you need some Lexit
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financially racist posted:italy is actually the best because if germany hadn't had to pull a bunch of their units out of russia to go save italy in the caucusus, moscow prolly would have fallen and ww2 would have prolly taken another few years to end This is historical illiteracy
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financially racist posted:italy is actually the best because if germany hadn't had to pull a bunch of their units out of russia to go save italy in the caucusus, moscow prolly would have fallen and ww2 would have prolly taken another few years to end Let's not forget getting their poo poo completely pushed in by and surrendering to a British army that consisted of about six blokes and a dog, leading to Hitler having to throw a bunch of his best troops into North Africa rather than at Moscow.
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Frijolero posted:We should've nuked Croatia. Bulgogi Hoagie posted:loudly exclaiming that the balkans did something horrible again use the second nuke on serbia
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Jan 29, 2018 23:24
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all because a limey boy hosed a pig
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financially racist posted:italy is actually the best because if germany hadn't had to pull a bunch of their units out of russia to go save italy in the caucusus, moscow prolly would have fallen and ww2 would have prolly taken another few years to end
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