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Instant Sunrise posted:Are the multiplayer servers for Star Wars: Dark Forces IV: Jedi Knight III: Jedi Outcast II: Jedi Academy still up? and are the mods for it still being updated? Mods for Outcast/Academy are still being made over on jkhub Not sure about servers though
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Wheat Loaf posted:That was Daisy Ridley's reservation about the script; she liked acting with Boyega in TFA and was disappointed that they were split up for most of TLJ. Yeah when I think of all the fun/good character moments in TFA its all: Finn and Poe Finn and Rey Finn and BB8 Finn and Han Finn and Chewie then after that Han and Leia Han and Rey Han and Chewie (obv) Han and Kylo like there's definitely a pattern there.
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So is there an actor involved who didn't express reservations or worse when they were first shown the script for TLJ?
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NTRabbit posted:So is there an actor involved who didn't express reservations or worse when they were first shown the script for TLJ? Harrison Ford.
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sassassin posted:Harrison Ford. Only the dead have known the end of Star Wars.
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exquisite tea posted:Only the dead have known the end of Star Wars. If only saying it would make it so. 
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NTRabbit posted:So is there an actor involved who didn't express reservations or worse when they were first shown the script for TLJ? It is a Star Wars tradition. Hamill's supposed to have butted heads with Kasdan and Irvin Kershner over the direction of Luke's character in ESB.
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Now, people are droids! https://twitter.com/Toyark/status/957976232309678081 
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Ha ha I just remembered that Michael K Williams was in Solo but they had to fix so much poo poo that it was easier to just recast him in reshoots yikes
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The MSJ posted:Now, people are droids! Boy, the reshoots are a lot more complex than I thought they'd be Maybe there's hope for this movie yet Can't wait for the showdown with the Death Star that turns into Darth Vader
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UmOk posted:Oh ok. I thought maybe it was because lovely people just want a "better" black guy. We expect white people to be ugly. We're disappointed and surprised when black people aren't exceptionally good looking.
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Ingmar terdman posted:Ha ha I just remembered that Michael K Williams was in Solo but they had to fix so much poo poo that it was easier to just recast him in reshoots yikes Yeah, the more I hear about Solo the worse I feel it will do. With these directorial changes, it will be Disney's Fan4Tastic
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PassTheRemote posted:Yeah, the more I hear about Solo the worse I feel it will do. With these directorial changes, it will be Disney's Fan4Tastic It will be the Tsar Bomba of movies.
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Will it be better or worse than “I’m Han Solo” from that Star Wars karaoke game.
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They're renaming it Han Solo and Gretel.
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Han Solo He's so hot right now
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It just occurred to me that Jawas are the first aliens to appear in Star Wars, and they appear in a lot of movies (4). That's a lot for a species that doesn't have a named character like Wookiees (6) or Mon Cals (4) or Yodas (6). Anyway, I mostly think the new sequel alien designs are alright to good, but wouldn't mind seeing a Rodian or something in the background. Even the Twilek in R1 was a weird Tim Burtony remix that was ashamed to be a Twilek. Good thing Lando's copilot on the Falcon is going to be an Ewok for rhyming's sake
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Wheat Loaf posted:It is a Star Wars tradition. Hamill's supposed to have butted heads with Kasdan and Irvin Kershner over the direction of Luke's character in ESB. I never heard this. Also it seems odd that he would have argued with Kasdan and Kershner since they didn't really have much of a say over Luke's character arc in TESB. e: Unless you're talking about the scene where he cuts the wampa's arm off. I know he disagreed with that because he thought it was unnecessarily cruel. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Ingmar terdman posted:I mostly think the new sequel alien designs are alright to good, but wouldn't mind seeing a Rodian or something in the background.
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A ton of the sequel aliens look really similar to each other. There're probably ones not featured there but the image matches what I've thought both times coming out of TFA and TLJ -- the alien designs feel very samey. The comparison with the designs from the PT is jarring. There's certainly none I immediately recognize them forgetting from that ST heading. Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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galagazombie posted:Eh, the sequel aliens have a disturbing trend of what I call "Pug-Face" where they all have this samey scrunched up look. They might seem okay in a vacuum, but all in the movie together they look so similar I can't pick out a single new species from any of the others. It also seems weird that after six whole movies establishing a lineup of the common races you'll see in a crowd we all of a sudden are seeing something like an entirely different setting. Not showing any familiar species was a dumb choice. For the most part the new aliens in TLJ definitely had a sorta D&D Goblin look in common. I wouldn't say RO had that problem though, Tiny Guy owned
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Ingmar terdman posted:It just occurred to me that Jawas are the first aliens to appear in Star Wars, and they appear in a lot of movies (4). That's a lot for a species that doesn't have a named character like Wookiees (6) or Mon Cals (4) or Yodas (6). Anyway, I mostly think the new sequel alien designs are alright to good, but wouldn't mind seeing a Rodian or something in the background. Even the Twilek in R1 was a weird Tim Burtony remix that was ashamed to be a Twilek. Good thing Lando's copilot on the Falcon is going to be an Ewok for rhyming's sake How are you getting 4 movies for Jawas? I guess maybe they appeared in the background of Jabba's palace, but I don't remember them. I've got ANH, probably TPM (it's been a while, but I'm sure they're kicking around Mos Espa somewhere) and briefly talking to Anakin in AOTC. And are you saying Lando's copilot in Solo is going to be an Ewok? Where did you see that?
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thrawn527 posted:And are you saying Lando's copilot in Solo is going to be an Ewok? Where did you see that? It was pretty prominent in the trailer.
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Wheat Loaf posted:It was pretty prominent in the trailer. Trailer?
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Milky Moor posted:A ton of the sequel aliens look really similar to each other. Enjoying the sexy Darth Maul pic in there. Captures his essence
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thrawn527 posted:Trailer? Nah, I'm only messing. We all know there's never going to be a Solo trailer.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Nah, I'm only messing. We all know there's never going to be a Solo trailer. https://twitter.com/Solomovieyet/status/958354570165522432
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It's not going to be attached to Black Panther and the latest rumour is that it's not going to go out during the Super Bowl. But as far as I'm aware, all the merchandise is still scheduled to show up in April, which leads me to believe Lucasfilm is still intent on getting it out in late May. It's probably going to be a bad movie; it's probably going to bomb harder than a Lancaster flying over Dresden; you'd think they'd have bitten the bullet at this point and thrown up whatever they've got. 
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Maybe it will be the worst prequel
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thrawn527 posted:How are you getting 4 movies for Jawas? I guess maybe they appeared in the background of Jabba's palace, but I don't remember them. I've got ANH, probably TPM (it's been a while, but I'm sure they're kicking around Mos Espa somewhere) and briefly talking to Anakin in AOTC. TPM: two Jawas watch the pods zoom by from afar and one utinis ROTJ: there's at least one because it's the only Jawa close-up I remember, shot looking up through the rancor gate into a Jawa's face as he stares down into the pit
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Ingmar terdman posted:TPM: two Jawas watch the pods zoom by from afar and one utinis Ah, yes, that's right about TPM. I knew I was forgetting something big. It was pretty blatant.
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What other Star Wars have had especially difficult productions? I know there were varying degrees of frustration for Lucas in all three original trilogy movies; Rogue One obviously had some minor kerfuffle culminating in its reshoots; I've heard TFA was difficult; by all accounts, TLJ was the easiest production of the three made since 2015 (which is probably why Johnson is getting his own trilogy). What about the prequels? I was too young to have much interest in behind-the-scenes reports when those movies were being made, but my presumption is that it must have been smoother since Lucas enjoyed more direct control than he did during the making of the original movies.
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Wheat Loaf posted:What other Star Wars have had especially difficult productions? I know there were varying degrees of frustration for Lucas in all three original trilogy movies; Rogue One obviously had some minor kerfuffle culminating in its reshoots; I've heard TFA was difficult; by all accounts, TLJ was the easiest production of the three made since 2015 (which is probably why Johnson is getting his own trilogy). Empire Strikes Back was so over budget and past deadline that it almost bankrupted Lucas, who had largely financed the movie himself with his money from Star Wars. Kershner got in a fair amount of arguments about what was, "Good enough." Lucas visited the set during some of the Dagobah shoots to find out what was taking so long. It went so poorly that he took his plans for 9 movies and said, "gently caress, we're finishing this in one more," and rolled all of the plot he had left into Return of the Jedi. The Emperor wasn't even supposed to show up until Episode 9. The prequels were, indeed, pretty smooth productions. He had complete control over everything, and an amazing team who would jump at his every command. The script to Revenge of the Sith was famously finished incredibly close to production, but they had already worked out all of the set/costuming/design stuff so really it was just dialogue they were waiting on. The main thing I remember from the prequels was that it was riddled with leaks. For all of Lucasfilm's supposed security, I remember the early days of Ain't It Cool News making a name for itself by getting leaks on Episode I (spy shots of on set shoots, concept art, things like that), and the entire plot of Episode II leaked well before the movie came out. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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thrawn527 posted:Empire Strikes Back was so over budget and past deadline that it almost bankrupted Lucas, who had largely financed the movie himself with his money from Star Wars. Kershner got in a fair amount of arguments about what was, "Good enough." Lucas visited the set during some of the Dagobah shoots to find out what was taking so long. It went so poorly that he took his plans for 9 movies and said, "gently caress, we're finishing this in one more," and rolled all of the plot he had left into Return of the Jedi. The Emperor wasn't even supposed to show up until Episode 9. I've heard a bit about that though I didn't know the Emperor wasn't meant to show up so much later; I knew that Episode VI was going to introduce Luke's sister, who would be a different character from Leia. I've got to get into that Rinzler book. When people talk about Lucas's plans for sequel movies, do they mean his plans for Episode VII, VIII and IX in the 1980s, or some other ideas post-dating the prequels?
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TPM had an especially nasty sandstorm that set things back a little bit. Part of the Making of Episode I documentary is Rick McCallum walking in between the wrecked podracer props the morning after the storm yelling gently caress a lot. And George is like "welp it's 1976 all over again I hate sets" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8sBsnYNucM The making of is kind of its own amazing little movie. What I would give for a Disaster Artist style adaptation. Now that's the Star Wars spin-off that I need
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've heard a bit about that though I didn't know the Emperor wasn't meant to show up so much later; I knew that Episode VI was going to introduce Luke's sister, who would be a different character from Leia. I've got to get into that Rinzler book. He had vague plans after the release of Episode VI—Mark Hamill has talked about how Lucas discussed plans to bring him back for a sequel trilogy in 30 years or so—and also produced story treatments after ROTS that he gave to Disney as part of the sale.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've heard a bit about that though I didn't know the Emperor wasn't meant to show up so much later; I knew that Episode VI was going to introduce Luke's sister, who would be a different character from Leia. I've got to get into that Rinzler book. Well, I think the "sister" wasn't originally going to be a sister. The "another" Yoda referenced was originally referring to some female character from outside the galaxy, who the sequel trilogy would be about, and who Luke would train, and who would ultimately defeat the Emperor. The Rinzler book is good, but officially sanctioned, and he's made changes to the "history" based on direction from Lucas. The better book, to me, is The Secret History of Star Wars. It has clear writing style issues, as it was the guy's first book, but it's absolutely fantastic for it's research into old scripts, interviews, and notes over the course of the making of the first 6 movies.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've heard TFA was difficult Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrams desperately wanted the movie pushed to May 2016 to give them enough time to get everything right, but Bob Iger himself reportedly refused because the movie had already been pushed once (it was originally set for summer 2015, but was delayed to December when Arndt was fired and Abrams and Kasdan took over the script) and he wanted a Star Wars movie to hit in that fiscal year for Disney. As a result, they had literally only a year of post-production time from the wrap of shooting to locking the final picture, and shooting had already been a mess because substantial portions of the script were rewritten while Ford was out healing his broken leg and later re-shot. Because of the frenzied post-production, Abrams was re-editing the movie constantly throughout the summer and into the fall of 2015; Lupita Nyong'o said she had to come in for voice recording sessions like a half-dozen times or more because Maz's character kept getting rewritten and reworked. Apparently Abrams did one final huge overhaul in either late October or very early November that drastically changed much of the tone and flow of the movie. So, yeah, when all was said and done, everyone was exhausted.
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