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I made the mistake of reading the interlude chapter of the last volume. I'm not sure if it's an actual chapter or if it's a big troll by the translator. That was some depraved poo poo.
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Mordaedil posted:I made the mistake of reading the interlude chapter of the last volume. I'm not sure if it's an actual chapter or if it's a big troll by the translator. It was a troll by the translator.
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Jan 31, 2018 12:59
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:there's some nasty fuckers in nazarick, but demiurge is by far the worst of the lot. sebas is the only good person, and that's because touchme wasn't into the whole jokey super evil npc stuff. CZ Delta and Yuri Alpha are also good. Cocytus is neutral and quite a few of the Homuclus Maids are good too. But they are outnumbered by the number of evil ones in the place. But yeah Demiurge is by far the most evil NPC. Sebas is outright stated as hating him, and all the other NPC's are ether afraid of him or if they are his equals respect him, but don't like him much. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Jan 31, 2018 13:01
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Demiurge did nothing wrong.
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Jan 31, 2018 13:11
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Demiurge did nothing wrong. Other then kidnapping people and forcing them to eat each other for his amusement, and skinning them alive.
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Jan 31, 2018 13:27
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MonsterEnvy posted:Other then kidnapping people and forcing them to eat each other for his amusement, and skinning them alive. Has that happened in the show? If not, 
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Jan 31, 2018 13:52
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Has that happened in the show? If not, He just reported he was skinning people and making them into scrolls for Nazarick to use.
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Jan 31, 2018 14:15
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skinning people, healing them with magic, and then skinning them again.
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Jan 31, 2018 14:23
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:skinning people, healing them with magic, and then skinning them again. Well I did not know that. Thats even worse. (To be expected from Demiurge.)
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Jan 31, 2018 14:24
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MonsterEnvy posted:It was a troll by the translator. Thank god, I was traumatized by that thing. I already thought the scene prior was really hosed up as it was. Also wish they stop translating "paralyzed" as "like a puppet with all its strings cut". I don't even get the joke there.
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Jan 31, 2018 14:27
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MonsterEnvy posted:He just reported he was skinning people and making them into scrolls for Nazarick to use. Sheep! Sheep from the kingdom. Did nothing wrong.
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Jan 31, 2018 15:09
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Mordaedil posted:Thank god, I was traumatized by that thing. I already thought the scene prior was really hosed up as it was. That is pretty much another joke from that translator. Like him giving the titles of several chanters in the most recent novel as Breeding Sow 1/2 instead of their real ones. It's not particualry funny. A translation without all the jokes comes eventually. Stuff involving Demiurge is still dark however. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Jan 31, 2018 15:25
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Demiurge is the most evil aligned of the guardians and Nazarick npcs since the resident edgelord was the one who made him. The guardians reflect the creators and/or their mental hang ups. Demiurge ironically is probably the most loyal guardian however- he's just convinced Ainz is Galaxy Brain smart and gets all his wink wink nudge nudge poo poo. Demiurge's Creator hated Touch Me, whose creation (Sebas) apparently is what he really looked like in real life. Touch Me was also a successful family man with a very happy and fulfilling life outside the game as well where the edgelord guy was basically a far more bitter but reasonably financially successful version of Ainz in real life who resented Touch Me.
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Jan 31, 2018 16:54
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Fabricated posted:Demiurge is the most evil aligned of the guardians and Nazarick npcs since the resident edgelord was the one who made him. The guardians reflect the creators and/or their mental hang ups. Demiurge ironically is probably the most loyal guardian however- he's just convinced Ainz is Galaxy Brain smart and gets all his wink wink nudge nudge poo poo. Dude was apparently also obsessed with the concept of Evil and created Demiurge to embody the concept as much as he could. The guy Ulbert Alain Odle was also one of the top two players in the guild, alongside Touch Me who was the best warrior he was the best caster.
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Feb 1, 2018 00:51
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I just keep coming back to it: What does any of this have to do with the mystery of who took over Shalltear? The story's suddenly taken a different track towards Ains becoming an actual evil overlord instead of pretending to be one as a way of figuring out what's going on in this world. To manga readers, does it ever get back on track, or does the story keep shifting it's focus like this?
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Feb 1, 2018 02:04
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MonsterEnvy posted:CZ Delta and Yuri Alpha are also good. Cocytus is neutral and quite a few of the Homuclus Maids are good too. But they are outnumbered by the number of evil ones in the place. IIRC the twins are only slightly evil in terms of stats and are more indifferent rather than malicious.
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ViggyNash posted:I just keep coming back to it: What does any of this have to do with the mystery of who took over Shalltear? The story's suddenly taken a different track towards Ains becoming an actual evil overlord instead of pretending to be one as a way of figuring out what's going on in this world. To manga readers, does it ever get back on track, or does the story keep shifting it's focus like this? So my thoughts Its kinda revealed already who sent it to us, as for Ainz he is running off the assumption that it was a chance meeting rather than a deliberate action against him due to the fact that there was no ambush set up for him when he went to kill Shalltear. What he knows is 1. There be world items here as well 2. Other people have them. 3. I am pretty sure they don't know about me and I don't want them to find out i'm here before I figure this out. 5. I will equip my most valuable minions with their own world items as a countermeasure against world items and continue with gathering information like I planned. 6. I also want to see how the npcs develop now that they are real beings and am going to test if Cocytus can grow as a person by giving him a task that he will fail if he blindly follows orders. (and if he does blindly follow orders and fails from that, can that spark growth in him?)
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Feb 1, 2018 04:01
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6 could easily be one episode or, if it's that important overall, a concurrent side arc instead of what seems to be half a season of side content. Also part of my complaints with this arc is that now he seems to be turning into the evil overlord that he was only rp-ing before. It crosses a line that feels way out of line for the character. Just to play this out, let's make the argument that he's still treating the lizzardmen as generic NPC's and not as real people. However, the entire point of this side arc is to test the humanity of of his subordinates. How does it make sense to test the validity of something by assuming it's false in the first place? ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Feb 1, 2018 |
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Feb 1, 2018 05:14
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Humanity of his subordinates? He's testing their autonomy, to see if they can think outside of the box and getting ready to conquer the world for real. Also, this is still just him rping, he's just way into being kinda evil.
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Feb 1, 2018 06:43
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I find the lizards more interesting than most of the Nazarick characters. 
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Feb 1, 2018 14:24
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Idk, I took it as, "If they can think autonomously then they are actual real people." I guess it is sort of a stretch. I still dont like the whole subjugating a society by force thing.
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Feb 1, 2018 20:00
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ViggyNash posted:Idk, I took it as, "If they can think autonomously then they are actual real people." I guess it is sort of a stretch. Well he probably would not be ok with it, if his Lich form was not suppressing stuff like his empathy that would have a problem with it. Like when he first saw someone die in the New World he was like "Huh I probably would have thrown up and cried if I saw that in real life. Yet I feel absolutely nothing for these innocent people being murdered."
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Feb 2, 2018 02:21
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I forgot abt that. I think if his changing personality played a bigger part, it would make things a lot more interesting. This is wasting that potential if it goes uncommented on. Really a lot of what's annoying me abt this season is wasted potential.
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ViggyNash posted:I just keep coming back to it: What does any of this have to do with the mystery of who took over Shalltear? The story's suddenly taken a different track towards Ains becoming an actual evil overlord instead of pretending to be one as a way of figuring out what's going on in this world. To manga readers, does it ever get back on track, or does the story keep shifting it's focus like this? The answer to your question? Nothing. Shalltear being taken over served the role in the plot of confirming Ainz as being correct in approaching the new world cautiously despite the initial lack of credible resistance. It also allowed the story to present a picture of what it looks like when Ainz and his minions go all out against an equally capable foe, which is something that you don't normally get to see due to the power differentials normally in play. The Lizardman arc is effectively an aside to introduce some new characters to the cast and to also allow Ainz to test the limitations of his "children". The story in Overlord is very meandering and switches perspectives quite a lot; Ainz is actually not the perspective character in the novels very often at all.
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Sometimes it is best to stick to the anime ver...
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the anime will probably censor the worst excesses of the ln, too
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Feb 2, 2018 19:49
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Keep the hugs in though.
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Feb 2, 2018 19:58
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There was no need to show that. 
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Poil posted:There was no need to show that.
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Grouchio posted:......They showed us Lizard Sex? Don't read unless you actually want more than one thing spoiled: Yes. And later Shalltear orgasms continuously throughout a scene. Stay classy Overlord.
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Feb 7, 2018 00:48
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Havent you people ever watched discovery channel
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Feb 7, 2018 01:18
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Plutonis posted:Havent you people ever watched discovery channel
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Feb 7, 2018 03:23
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I've seen alligators mate a hundred times... Not shocking at all.
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Feb 7, 2018 04:33
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It was a romantic gesture between two people at what they though was the end of the world. Grow up people.
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Feb 7, 2018 04:54
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Also don't dream shame. Some people want to be doctors and help others. Some people want to be teachers to give to the next generation. And some people just want to support those they deeply care about.
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Feb 7, 2018 05:47
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I'm glad you anime people finally got to the highlight of the lizard saga; Lizard loving.
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Feb 7, 2018 06:46
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The adaptation of the lizard arc unfortunately skipped out on a lot of characterization(like Zaryusu and Zenberu becoming best friends, which is why Zaryusu begs Ainz to bring him back along with his brother but doesn't mention the other chiefs who got loving murdered), but it was pretty decently done.
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Feb 7, 2018 06:59
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Mordaedil posted:I'm glad you anime people finally got to the highlight of the lizard saga; Lizard loving. 
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Feb 7, 2018 07:07
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I kinda thought it was going to be a bigger deal the way the LN people talked about it, instead it was what 5 seconds, and than watching the floor guardians going how barbaric, despite the ones peeking in
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It was a bit longer in the novel, but it was mostly Ainz panicking about the dark elves seeing it. But it wasn't big deal, what we got was pretty good.
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