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What was LaVey's deal anyways? From my understanding he was more of a carnival barker. A lot of this cult's ideology seems cribbed or at least heavily inspired from Anton Long of the O9A, a pseudonym that some esoteric scholars have attributed to David Myatt. Myatt denies he was Long and whether he was is subject to debate, and it's said Long inspired David Copeland, a neo-Nazi nailbomber who targeted black, South Asian and gay communities in London.
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LaVey was by his own admission Ayn Rand plus mythology.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:What was LaVey's deal anyways? From my understanding he was more of a carnival barker. My understanding is that it's Randian libertarianism contorted into a psuedo-religious doctrine. Can't say where or even if he would fit in the alt-right, but he can certainly be a gateway. I remember he had a rival or something that was identified in some of the more credible accusations of ritualistic abuse by American elites, but that came from a podcast I listened to while intoxicated.
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they're south park style glibertarians who shout "hail satin" to shock the normies
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Pics of the Nazi squad that showed up at CSU in Fort Collins. Looks like this guy, with the white suspenders, white laces and tattoo on the side of his head, got hit and was carried out by his buddies: (Also notice the yellow laces on one of the antifas?)    What the heck is with that tattoo? It looks like something from Warhammer. It might be the logo for Alexander Dugin's thing. BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 18:13 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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what color laces do you wear to show you've been beaten up by the inferior races?
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Why would anyone wear suspenders like that in public?
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osirisisdead posted:Why would anyone wear suspenders like that in public? Skinhead fashon tradition
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MizPiz posted:It looks like an over designed factory That's a p big problem with brutalism, in that people often disregard that part of a function of a living space is to not be depressing. You can still work around that while staying within brutalism, imo, but you need to plan for that, with windows with nice views, some plantlife strategically placed, etc. If you're in a place with a good enough view you can completely own that, but ofc a lot of times tenements and stuff aren't, so you need to figure out how to mitigate that. Brutalism, while not my thing, absolutely doesn't have to be bland and depressing, but can lean into a minimalistic and barren sort of beauty, but I think a lot of times it's just easier for people to make a big, poorly planned concrete cube and ignore the function. This is just a 3-d mockup but it fits my point about building around the view.  The Barbican Conservatory definitely uses brutalism to contrast and enhance the plants.  And I personally find Freeway Park in Seattle to be stunning, even if it's nicer when the waterfall is running and maintained.  I'm definitely not an expert on brutalism but part of where it goes bad is lack of concern for livability of tenement housing and laziness, not something inherent in the style.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:What the heck is with that tattoo? It looks like something from Warhammer. If it's symmetrical, it looks like a Chaos Star from WH40K.
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Brutalism is cool when it's covered in moss and plants. Then it starts to look like a natural stone formation, almost like South Asian Karst. 
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MizPiz posted:My understanding is that it's Randian libertarianism contorted into a psuedo-religious doctrine. Can't say where or even if he would fit in the alt-right, but he can certainly be a gateway. I remember he had a rival or something that was identified in some of the more credible accusations of ritualistic abuse by American elites, but that came from a podcast I listened to while intoxicated. Contorting Randian objectivism into religion is pretty easy, as perversely the whole thing runs on faith, anyway. While there's all sorts of rational arguments circling it with libertarian influences and the flavors of economics they like, you need to have faith that the virtue of selfishness is going to work out better for you than some other method of being, otherwise you wouldn't follow it. You can sorta rationalize it if you believed in a world where accidents don't happen and everybody gets what they deserve, but this is begging the question, since this sort of 'perfectly just world of conservationism' is presumably what conservatives want, not think exists right now. If that sort of world already exists, then it seems a metaphysical relation, and not to do with economics, government, etc, IE the motivations that put wind in a conservative's sails in the first place.
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tractor fanatic posted:Brutalism is cool when it's covered in moss and plants. Then it starts to look like a natural stone formation, almost like South Asian Karst. that's the key really a brutalist building by itself more often than not looks like complete rear end a brutalist building with proper landscaping around it almost always looks amazing best example of that is the following  that's steve martin's house btw also, by adding different material trim (wood, brick, stone, moss) it draws the eye away from the concrete finish and towards that trim, making it a much more efficient use of non-concrete materials since you don't need much of it to make an impact e: this ones goes from being good, to horrible, to looping back around to being amazing  
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Gringostar posted:this ones goes from being good, to horrible, to looping back around to being amazing I would loving love to work in this building
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Gringostar posted:this ones goes from being good, to horrible, to looping back around to being amazing this looks like it should be roaming the overworld of a '90s console RPG
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Oh Hell No posted:this looks like it should be in orbit around the rebel homeworld
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tractor fanatic posted:Brutalism is cool when it's covered in moss and plants. Then it starts to look like a natural stone formation, almost like South Asian Karst.
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I love brutalist architecture, but I can understand how people who have a Roman fetish may pine for buildings with more columns or whatever.
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WampaLord posted:I would loving love to work in this building Same, I'd love to build Command & Conquer tanks PetraCore posted:I think it probably looks quite nice from the inside, with all that natural light. Opinions on brutalism always seem so namby pamby to me. Very few people get their kicks by going outside and admiring their building. If your interior is nice and there's no architectural flaws, it'd make no difference that you live in a concrete block or a VIctorian flat. Likewise, when people go outside to hang out, they're not going to sit around their building and stare at it. They're going out to fool around by a fountain, or eat lunch or shop around or whatever. Assigning blame to buildings for societal malaise is completely backwards. If you neighbourhood is poor and neglected, it'll look it no matter what building you live in. There's lovely parts of London where the all the houses are 19th century rowhouses, and it's not like that makes it less depressing.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Lol no, all five of those buildings is either falling to pieces (Robin Hood Gardens and that one in Covent Garden I can never remember the name of, 1st and 4th) or has already been demolished (Heygate and Lefevre Walk Estates, 3rd and 5th) because they were falling to pieces. But assuming they weren't demolished, what would they look like in a thousand years of non habitation? That's what ruin value is about. Doctor Spaceman posted:brutalism does exactly this, which is why you end up with residential blocks and schools looking like inhospitable prisons rather than places that people actually want to be in You may not like living in a concrete cube, personally, I don't give a gently caress what the outside of my house looks like. But a cheap home is better than no home at all.
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I'm all for brutalism being used a lot more in London as it would horrify prince Charles.
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I'm not a fan of brutalist architecture but I realized a while ago that I have the same taste in architectural aesthetics as Hermann Göring so my opinions can be safely discounted.
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My perverted fascination with raw concrete sealed itself when I stayed in a concrete tower block hotel room. Smack talk brutalism all you want, but those concrete walls keep out the noise.
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Zeroisanumber posted:I'm not a fan of brutalist architecture but I realized a while ago that I have the same taste in architectural aesthetics as Hermann Göring so my opinions can be safely discounted. The Nazis had a pretty shallow appreciation of architecture, as rudatron said, their big project was literally a dome so big it would have it's own precipitation. (Largely composed of human sweat) BrutalistMcDonalds posted:My perverted fascination with raw concrete sealed itself when I stayed in a concrete tower block hotel room. Smack talk brutalism all you want, but those concrete walls keep out the noise. I like brutalism because they are the safest buildings to be in when a tornado comes through town 
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Dreddout posted:The Nazis had a pretty shallow appreciation of architecture, as rudatron said, their big project was literally a dome so big it would have it's own precipitation. (Largely composed of human sweat) the master race
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Gringostar posted:that's the key really  people think oahu is all cozy bungalows. but nope. brutalism.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_K_79O21hk&t=507s BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 20:56 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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Dreddout posted:The Nazis had a pretty shallow appreciation of architecture, as rudatron said, their big project was literally a dome so big it would have it's own precipitation. (Largely composed of human sweat) I think Carinhall was beautiful.  But I also don't claim to be one of the great architectural minds.
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Zeroisanumber posted:I think Carinhall was beautiful. Despite being built for Big Hermann, Carinhall wasn't particular Nazi-inspired in terms of architecture. It looked more like a modernish interpretation of a classical Roman villa than anything else. It was actually quite tasteful as far as authoritarian ego projects go. Compare it with any photo of Trump's various gilded eyesores. Vincent Van Goatse has issued a correction as of 20:59 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:I think Carinhall was beautiful. It looked like Nazi mcmansion to me but I won't begrudge you your choice of Wolfenstein lair
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Same, I'd love to build Command & Conquer tanks EDIT: Like poo poo I was talking about making sure the windows have nice views if possible, there's natural light so people don't get low-key depressed, and there's spots of greenery on the inside for visual interest. Some places won't even put in that effort. PetraCore has issued a correction as of 21:06 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Same, I'd love to build Command & Conquer tanks Concrete is a rough and porous medium that is unpleasant to the touch so it isn't very suitable for railings, benches, walls, etc. The idea that no one looks at buildings so they can be completely devoid of ornamentation and that there is no value in considering their aesthetics is so bad you should probably apologize to the thread for posting it.
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The only truly proletarian structures are one room huts made of cattle dung
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Grand Prize Winner posted:The only truly proletarian structures are one room huts made of cattle dung oh look at mr fancy pants over here with his whole hut made of prime cow poo poo, would you like some diamonds with that your majesty
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Grand Prize Winner posted:The only truly proletarian structures are one room huts made of cattle dung Found the buttmad alt-righter who hates that SA isn't their safe space. Ruminant dung is more often used as fuel and fertilizer than building material, you loving moron.
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this is my aesthetic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLX4NYrW1bI
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"Siri, what is the alt-right?" https://twitter.com/tomcokeisablunt/status/959886917444800512
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is the joke that even his anime body pillow looks like it doesn't want to be with him
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WampaLord posted:I would loving love to work in this building Yeah it's all fun and games until the Empire kill you because they're looking for two droids.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yeah it's all fun and games until the Empire kill you because they're looking for two droids. Well, at least my charred remains will inspire someone to blow up their Death Star.
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