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PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Runaktla posted:

I think the ICE douche is a douche for so many reasons.

But the “liberal elite circlejerk“ here is a thing, and I myself am liberal.
I can't feel too bad because like, part of the 'circlejerk' is stuff like low tolerance for homophobia and transphobia and as a rampant homosexual I like finding places where my right to exist isn't in debate, or at least isn't for that reason. Maybe if the GOP stopped making that part and parcel of their platform I'd be more tolerant of conservatism, but I really don't think poo poo like my continued survival is a difference in opinion.

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Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007

by Hand Knit

PetraCore posted:

I can't feel too bad because like, part of the 'circlejerk' is stuff like low tolerance for homophobia and transphobia and as a rampant homosexual I like finding places where my right to exist isn't in debate, or at least isn't for that reason. Maybe if the GOP stopped making that part and parcel of their platform I'd be more tolerant of conservatism, but I really don't think poo poo like my continued survival is a difference in opinion.
A guy was probated for suggesting it’s okay for a girl to have a preference to not want to date a bisexual man i.e. only wants a heterosexual guy.

There’s homophobia and there’s that.

It’s good homophobia is pushed out but it goes too far sometimes too.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Runaktla posted:

A guy was probated for suggesting it’s okay for a girl to have a preference to not want to date a bisexual man i.e. only wants a heterosexual guy.

There’s homophobia and there’s that.

It’s good homophobia is pushed out but it goes too far sometimes too.
Nobody should be pressured to sleep with anyone they don't want to sleep with for any reason but it was a lovely line of reasoning he was white knighting for, since before she learned he was bisexual she described him as her dream guy. That... that is biphobic, even if the solution is still a break up. Sorry pal.

Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007

by Hand Knit
That was and still is a great point, the girl sounded lovely, but the convo discussing it shouldn’t have been shut out by a probation.

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Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Runaktla posted:

A guy was probated for suggesting it’s okay for a girl to have a preference to not want to date a bisexual man i.e. only wants a heterosexual guy.

There’s homophobia and there’s that.

It’s good homophobia is pushed out but it goes too far sometimes too.

Runaktla posted:

lol at all the “wtf she doesn’t like bi guys what an awful bigoted bitch!” posters.

You are literally getting mad at somebody’s sexual preference which is hypocritical.

Girls preference for guys is usually less based upon looks and more based upon how feminine he makes her feel.

A guy that likes to have sex with other guys is not going to be attractive to many girls, since they don’t provide them with that feeling. The girl wants to usually be the only girl in the room, ever, at least with the guy they ultimately end up with.

I mean often I think this relates to the girl being able to take a submissive role and be more irresponsible, to be emotional and give us guys hell once in a while cause that’s what they do.

I mean I don’t have much of a dog in this fight, I’d think it’s funny if women lost that kinda power. I just also think getting mad at this is hypocritical as all hell.

Runaktla posted:

Oh get a clue.

Many women are wired that way and own up to it as well. If you don’t know that then maybe it’s a lack of experience thing.

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lmao yeah "a guy" was totally probated for "suggesting it’s okay for a girl to have a preference", and not for your weird rear end :biotruths:

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Danaru posted:

lmao yeah "a guy" was totally probated for "suggesting it’s okay for a girl to have a preference", and not for your weird rear end :biotruths:
wait back up did he just refer to himself as "a guy" who got probated rofl

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Solice Kirsk posted:

Hey loq, since you're not gonna be doing anything tomorrow night can you write up a bunch of "best of" confessions and put them in the OP? Like the monkey torture guy, the guy that wound up dating his creppy anime boss, the one dude that wrote a big long love letter, therapy goon, and of course a detailed post by post evaluation of the Celsius/Fahrenheit debate?

Thanks pal!

yeah I'm gonna be way too drunk for that lol

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

DACK FAYDEN posted:

wait back up did he just refer to himself as "a guy" who got probated rofl

gently caress that owns

Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007

by Hand Knit

DACK FAYDEN posted:

wait back up did he just refer to himself as "a guy" who got probated rofl

No it was another guy, flashman.

Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007

by Hand Knit
This one. .

flashman posted:

Someone with sexual desires that I am not physically capable of satisfying would qualify as a red flag to me....

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Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007

by Hand Knit
Like I knew that I was irritated enough to be a dick, though ppl being dicks on the other side of that argument never of course got probated.

That flashman guy was an innocent bystander though :/

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Runaktla posted:

This one. .

That post is in fact hella lovely and implies that nobody should date bisexual people. I wonder why only you two got probated :thunk:

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

PetraCore posted:

Nobody should be pressured to sleep with anyone they don't want to sleep with for any reason but it was a lovely line of reasoning he was white knighting for, since before she learned he was bisexual she described him as her dream guy. That... that is biphobic, even if the solution is still a break up. Sorry pal.

I have a hard time getting up in arms against a women who discovers that a guy hits the MSM category and suddenly no longer wanting to sleep with them anymore based on that detail, even if otherwise she finds him really likable. After all, the CDC reports that syphilis and AIDS are higher among that group than any other.

Like, wasn't a porn actress bullied to suicide because she refused to work with a male talent because he had some MSM work?

Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007

by Hand Knit

Danaru posted:

That post is in fact hella lovely and implies that nobody should date bisexual people. I wonder why only you two got probated :thunk:

Orrrr it could mean the girl may worry the guy will always also long to have sex with another guy as well during their relationship.

That *may* not be the case for all but it could be for some. But let’s not argue and just probate away what we don’t like to talk about.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
What a horrendous derail. Besides, flashman clearly states what would be a red flag for flashman. gently caress you if your politics overrides someone's personal choices.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Everyone should be forced to gently caress everyone else. It's the only fair way to handle this.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It sounds like a rather wrong impression of how bisexuality works (like, you can be attracted to both blondes and redheads but that doesn't mean you'll never be happy unless you're regularly loving both a blonde and a redhead) but for some reason people keep tripping over their own dicks to be progressive and accepting and forget the whole, y'know, consent thing, and how no one is obliged to gently caress anyone for any reason ever. Even if the reasoning is stupid, it's their right to be stupid.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
I have no idea where you guys got this whole forcing people to gently caress other people thing but it has nothing to do with what we were talking about :psyduck: No one's forcing her to date anyone, but also "Bisexual people can't not cheat" is a biphobic thing to think, and breaking off a relationship because of a hypothetical bisexuality-induced future cheating incident is pretty lovely.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

I have a hard time getting up in arms against a women who discovers that a guy hits the MSM category and suddenly no longer wanting to sleep with them anymore based on that detail, even if otherwise she finds him really likable. After all, the CDC reports that syphilis and AIDS are higher among that group than any other.

Like, wasn't a porn actress bullied to suicide because she refused to work with a male talent because he had some MSM work?
Uh, yeah, STDs are higher among people who have unprotected sex. That's not every guy who is attracted to guys, especially since there's way better sexual education about condoms not just being for pregnancy out and about. If her issue was STDs, that's valid up until she's been sleeping with him already and whoops, no STDs.

And iirc that porn actress was being really aggressive and lovely about going around and warning people about actors with any MSM work. This does not justify suicide baiting her, but it's a bit more complicated than you're making it out.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Danaru posted:

I have no idea where you guys got this whole forcing people to gently caress other people thing but it has nothing to do with what we were talking about :psyduck: No one's forcing her to date anyone, but also "Bisexual people can't not cheat" is a biphobic thing to think, and breaking off a relationship because of a hypothetical bisexuality-induced future cheating incident is pretty lovely.
It comes from the fact that every time you go 'hey this is a lovely preference' people tend to go BUT IT'S RUDE TO FORCE PEOPLE TO SLEEP WITH SOMEONE ELSE, so I was nipping that in the bud.

Anyway now I'm not feeling so well. :(

Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007

by Hand Knit

PetraCore posted:

It comes from the fact that every time you go 'hey this is a lovely preference' people tend to go BUT IT'S RUDE TO FORCE PEOPLE TO SLEEP WITH SOMEONE ELSE, so I was nipping that in the bud.

Anyway now I'm not feeling so well. :(
I feel some sympathy for this comment but attraction is attraction and people can have choices, good and bad, for being attracted to somebody. Sexual orientation is just one of them.

Athletes? Certain ethnicity? Height? Social class? Educational level? Whether they’re the cool guy in the group? Big dick? Whether they voted Clinton?

We going to complain about all those if you don’t fit the category then probate them if they aren’t 100% agreeing with everything you say? That’s what the r/relationships thread is right now re sexual orientation.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Runaktla posted:

I feel some sympathy for this comment but attraction is attraction and people can have choices, good and bad, for being attracted to somebody. Sexual orientation is just one of them.

Athletes? Certain ethnicity? Height? Social class? Educational level? Whether they’re the cool guy in the group? Big dick? Whether they voted Clinton?

We going to complain about all those if you don’t fit the category then probate them if they aren’t 100% agreeing with everything you say? That’s what the r/relationships thread is right now re sexual orientation.
I am tapping out of this discussion because it really sucks to say that I appreciate a community because as a lesbian I don't feel alienated here only to get someone repeatedly getting in my face about whether or not it's okay to dump someone for being bi. Back the gently caress off. Just go away and think about why this is so loving important to you that you keep quoting me.

Shiki Dan
Oct 27, 2010

If ya can move ya toes ya back's fine

PetraCore posted:


And iirc that porn actress was being really aggressive and lovely about going around and warning people about actors with any MSM work. This does not justify suicide baiting her, but it's a bit more complicated than you're making it out.

She was only "aggressive" because the studio that employed these MSM workers would routinely fail to disclose those histories to the actresses that were working in scenes with them.

Which is very significant, since gay and transgender porn studios often operate separately from the straight studios (meaning a lack of communication) and also have a much higher rate of STDs because of a lack of testing.

We know these things, of course, since that very actress' husband is actually a GOON, and a Porn director that works in the industry and told us this ON THIS VERY SITE.

So I'm not sorry to say that it's not, in fact, "lovely" to warn women of potential risks to their bodies, careers, and lives and that they do, in fact, have the right to know the sexual histories of those they are working with in the industry, regardless of your hurt fee-fees.

Shiki Dan fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Feb 4, 2018

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
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hooboy

can we post toucans in this thread

bwm thread, we post toucans when people start fightin
also when they talk about themselves, but mostly when they start fightin
i think it a good habit to import

toucan

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Shiki Dan posted:

She was only "agressive" because the studio that employed these MSM workers would routinely fail to disclose those histories to the actresses that were working in scenes with them.

Which is very significant, since gay and transgender porn studios often operate separately from the straight studios (meaning a lack of communication) and also have a much higher rate of STDs because of a lack of testing.

We know these things, of course, since that very actress' husband is actually a GOON, and a Porn director that works in the industry and told us this ON THIS VERY SITE.

So I'm not sorry to say that it's not, in fact, "lovely" to warn women of potential risks to their bodies, careers, and lives and that they do, in fact, have the right to know the sexual histories of those they are working with in the industry, regardless of your hurt fee-fees.
I didn't know the full context, so I guess I did not, indeed, recall correctly. Thanks for the info. It's very lovely of the studios to not disclose, and primarily to not have just as strict testing and STD treatment in gay and transgender studios. It contributes to health problems among porn workers who should not be treated as disposable or expendable like that.

Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007

by Hand Knit

bob dobbs is dead posted:

hooboy

can we post toucans in this thread

bwm thread, we post toucans when people start fightin
also when they talk about themselves, but mostly when they start fightin
i think it a good habit to import

toucan



That’s a p good looking toucan I prefer puffins myself though.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
gently caress, yeah, s/toucan/puffin/g

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Weird thing; toucans are actually closely related to woodpeckers. I found this out because Pokemon has a woodpecker evolve into a toucan and apparently that's not just Pokemon being silly and weird as usual.

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

Runaktla posted:

Orrrr it could mean the girl may worry the guy will always also long to have sex with another guy as well during their relationship.

That *may* not be the case for all but it could be for some. But let’s not argue and just probate away what we don’t like to talk about.

Uh, I'm bi, and my wife doesn't worry about that poo poo. My wife is also bi, and I don't worry about that poo poo. Because we're, y'know, adults who understand that we can trust each other.

Just saying, this may be a useful datum point to take on board, there, chief.

Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007

by Hand Knit

bob dobbs is dead posted:

gently caress, yeah, s/toucan/puffin/g


I mean look at this lil bastard just waiting to have his heart eaten by some barbaric Icelander.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Inescapable Duck posted:

Weird thing; toucans are actually closely related to woodpeckers. I found this out because Pokemon has a woodpecker evolve into a toucan and apparently that's not just Pokemon being silly and weird as usual.
I wonder where the tongue goes.


Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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PetraCore posted:

I wonder where the tongue goes.




:stonk: No wonder they slam their faces into trees all day. They have to taste their own skulls!

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Birdpix are an ok derail / derail-avoidance measure btw, good policy to have, but anyway heeeeeere's content

quote:

Like five months ago I got fired from my first job ever, as the administrative assistant for this lawyer and law school teach. He was super old and always stuck me right in the middle of like, old lawyer people fights where they'd be yelling at me over the phone because they'd be pissed off at him. So one day he saw on FB that I was making fun of him not by name or the name of his company, just by description and he loving fired me on the spot. Then he said he was keeping my last three weeks paycheck cause of having to expense hiring a replacement for me all of a sudden.

One night I was like a little drunk and getting really angry about not getting my last check so I texted his HR department company and told them he'd had fired me for not sending him lovely pictures and letting him get touchy and that he wasn't giving me my last paycheck cause he's rear end in a top hat. OK that's not true that he ever asked me to do any hosed up harassment stuff cause he's this little dwarf guy like five feet tall who compensates by yelling at dudes to compensate. I guess company HR didn't like though that he was illegally they said withholding my pay so they suspiciously talked to other gals at the company.

This is kinda like where the whole thing blew up, he'd been getting handsy with girls from other departments and some of them had evidence and texts and poo poo that he'd been doing this to them not to me though. And last month he was fired from law school and the story on FB from some gals maybe in his classes is that he'd been hitting up girl students nudes for grades but they let him quit instead of persecuting that poo poo.

Basically I got paid which is what they owed me and also some severing pay for unused vacay days and he is in a world of poo poo because what I made up about him turned out to be true just for other gals not me. Like there's a survivors group now for the people who he did this to them and they are posting things like they thought they were alone and they'd have come out sooner if they'd known there were other victims. I am trying to disappear and not participate any more in this since it's sort of my fault and I don't want anyone looking like too close at how it started.

I don't know if what I did was the right thing to do cause of that but gently caress him.

You absolutely 100% did the right thing. I'm liking the recent trend of powerful people facing actual consequences for what they do. Pity it only goes so far up in our society, but it's still a positive trend.

And yeah my immediate reaction upon seeing the part where he didn't want to give you your last paycheck was "wow that's super illegal" so good on you for calling it in.

quote:

I was hanging out with some friends drinking a few days ago and apparently I tried to stab one of them after they brought up my ex-girlfriend. I remember all of the night except that, but apparently it took 3 of them to hold me back and one of my friends got cut pretty bad on the arm in the process. My memory goes from us talking about her to me getting into a cab by myself, nothing in between. I've experienced drunk blackouts before but this was nothing like that, I had only had like 5 drinks.

So now all my friends are acting weird and not talking to me. I mean I guess it's kind of a big deal but it's not friendship-ending level, we should be able to talk about what happened. I even told them I won't carry my knife with me when we go out anymore.

How do you apologize for something that you can't even remember?

I dunno dude, give it a shot

"I shouldn't have to apologize for this because I was too drunk to remember doing it" would not hold up in court. You gotta take some responsibility.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
If you don't think "blacking out and stabbing my friends" is a indicative of a severe alcohol allergy and should be met with "quitting drinking" you don't deserve friends

Law goonnette:

A) Im happy you got paid
B) I'm happy that dude got fired for being a shitheel
C) You got extremely lucky and it was a totally hosed up thing to do and it REALLY SOUNDS like calling HR and complaining about your check would have worked fine
D) But we live in a hellscape where the odds were quite frankly in your favor that he was a sex pest so while i think you were in the WRONG for lying, it worked out for you and severing with everyone involved is for the best and im not gonna pretend that this story isn't emblematic of a much bigger problem

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Law goonette, good for you! You may not have done the ethical thing, but you sure as hell did the right thing. Also, I hope you were drunk while typing that otherwise you have terrible typing and linguistics skills and you'll never get another admin assistant job.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Bust Rodd posted:

If you don't think "blacking out and stabbing my friends" is a indicative of a severe alcohol allergy and should be met with "quitting drinking" you don't deserve friends

Law goonnette:

A) Im happy you got paid
B) I'm happy that dude got fired for being a shitheel
C) You got extremely lucky and it was a totally hosed up thing to do and it REALLY SOUNDS like calling HR and complaining about your check would have worked fine
D) But we live in a hellscape where the odds were quite frankly in your favor that he was a sex pest so while i think you were in the WRONG for lying, it worked out for you and severing with everyone involved is for the best and im not gonna pretend that this story isn't emblematic of a much bigger problem

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Also, :lol: if you haven't had to apologize for something you don't remember doing before. That's like Binge Drinking 101.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
By trying to withhold 3 weeks pay, he was trying to screw you.

HerStuddMuffin
Aug 10, 2014

YOSPOS

loquacius posted:

I dunno dude, give it a shot

"I shouldn't have to apologize for this because I was too drunk to remember doing it" would not hold up in court. You gotta take some responsibility.
I’m partial to “I’m sorry you’re all a bunch of little pussy bitches who can’t take a knife cut in stride. I hope we can move past this because if we ever get invaded you’ll need me to protect your baby asses.”

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Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

loquacius posted:


I dunno dude, give it a shot

"I shouldn't have to apologize for this because I was too drunk to remember doing it" would not hold up in court. You gotta take some responsibility.

It's not that thier inadmissible, it's that they open the door to anything the complaining party has gotten away with while drunk. When one person does something that's so out of norm that Mutually Assured Debauchery doesn't cover it it's time to consider rehab.

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