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nm posted:My point being that if amazon has an nda with la, latimes will probably litigate the gently caress out of it. Our PRA comes with attorney fees for violations IIRC. Looking forward to it! 
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BrandorKP posted:I wonder if Facebook thinks I exist? I don't have an account but they might because they bought Spotify. On the other hand there are many people with my exact name. The credit agencies occasionally mix us up (which is a pain.) I am pretty sure I've never appeared in any photo posted on Facebook and have probably never been mentioned in a Facebook post. I also haven't show up in web search result since about 2008. I worked at FB for four years. Yes they know you exist, and they know why you don't want to be found Steve.
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pr0zac posted:I worked at FB for four years. Yes they know you exist, and they know why you don't want to be found Steve. With my user name you went with "Steve"? Google and Amazon know who I am. But I would honestly be shocked if Facebook did. Is there a way to check? There are about six married couples that share my and my wife's exact name. The only public facing data to scrape would be linked in which has no photo and only the barest (and far out of date) information, and nearly no links.
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As a Seattlite, I can say that whoever 'wins' the contract loses. It's just like having sex with goons!
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BrandorKP posted:With my user name you went with "Steve"? If any of your friends have installed facebook on their phone they have a phantom profile of you based on contact lists alone hth. Also it's a pretty good guess that you are some sort of linear combination of the people that have you in their contact lists.
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[quote="Notorious R.I.M." post="480952549"] If any of your friends have installed facebook on their phone they have a phantom profile of you based on contact lists alone hth. Also it's a pretty good guess that you are some sort of linear combination of the people that have you in their contact lists. [/quote?] I cannot think of a person I know that I communicate with my phone that has a Facebook account. Additionally my phone would not appear to be my phone. It's a company phone with another name associated with it. I've never personally had a cell phone. Even though I only phone post these days.
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Doesn't all it take is for someone to take a picture of you and tag your name for it to propigate?
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Yeah I'm pretty sure no one has done that
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BrandorKP posted:[quote="Notorious R.I.M." post="480952549"] Doesn’t need first degree connections.
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It feels like you're challenging goons to dox you and those efforts generally wind up bad for everyone.
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T-man posted:As a Seattlite, I can say that whoever 'wins' the contract loses. It would be neat if Detroit or somewhere "won" with an offer of "we have a bunch of vacant land, that's it" but everything is terrible.
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You'll still be one or multiple phantom profiles, just with a lesser probability/confidence or whatever rating. As more data on you is collected from all your friends and coworkers, these profiles are merged and improved without you having any idea about it. All you'll know is that one day, an ad slips past your adblocker, and you'll think "wow, that's exactly what I need!"
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BrandorKP posted:[quote="Notorious R.I.M." post="480952549"] You sound like a very fun person
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Quandary posted:You sound like a very fun person he sounds like someone punctual who respects other people's time instead of texting "omw" while people are already waiting
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mastershakeman posted:he sounds like someone punctual who respects other people's time instead of texting "omw" while people are already waiting Someone who doesn't have a single person with a Facebook account in their phone contacts either has very very few contacts or a very weird highly autistic social circle. Or both.
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BrandorKP posted:[quote="Notorious R.I.M." post="480952549"] It doesn’t matter what the phone is associated to, it matters how it’s listed in their phones. If the only way to reach you, Brandon Boringperson, is this company phone, you are in their phone book as Brandon Boringperson. And now your shadow profile gets filled in.
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And someday Brandon will slip up and his real name will get connected and that will be the end of that.
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Does anyone know what HQ Trivia's deal is/how it's supposed to make money/why it's valued at $100 million
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Help Im Alive posted:Does anyone know what HQ Trivia's deal is/how it's supposed to make money/why it's valued at $100 million Since you have to watch ads to get the questions, it’s a captive audience that can’t skip through advertising.
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Vegetable posted:Was that ever the case? I don't remember that. It was the case until German law say "uh, no, that's not allowed here, no access restrictions like this" and they had to implement a direct account system too, which they then rolled out worldwide.
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Trevor Hale posted:Since you have to watch ads to get the questions, it’s a captive audience that can’t skip through advertising.
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If anyone can find a clean way to link WaPo articles, there's a particularly depressing one about Bitcoin being used by people as a pension investment in Kentucky today.
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RandomPauI posted:It feels like you're challenging goons to dox you and those efforts generally wind up bad for everyone. Yeah I don't want that. I would like to know what Facebook really knows though. I mean I know what the chinese goverment got on me when they stole all those security clearances. evobatman posted:You'll still be one or multiple phantom profiles, just with a lesser probability/confidence or whatever rating. As more data on you is collected from all your friends and coworkers, these profiles are merged and improved without you having any idea about it. All you'll know is that one day, an ad slips past your adblocker, and you'll think "wow, that's exactly what I need!" That's actually related to the questions I'm really thinking about. At what point does the absence and low probability / confidence become notable itself? At what point does it reach that cross over and they know who I am, but likely with a great deal of incorrect information and multiple profiles? When does it become reasonable to just create a barebones account? Giving them minimal but correct information, this is what I did with LinkedIn actually. Blut posted:Someone who doesn't have a single person with a Facebook account in their phone contacts either has very very few contacts or a very weird highly autistic social circle. Or both. Weird social circle, nobody autistic though. Close family doesn't use social media. I started pulling back off the internet around 2000. Basicaly SA is my only presence outside of email and Amazon.
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Do you have any in-store credit cards or loyalty cards? Most of the data has that's actually useful that Facebook has is from 3rd party data brokers and most of their data comes from that. Assuming you use the same email address on those, Facebook can probably attach it to a shadow profile, albeit not with a high degree of confidence. It's sort of moot because if you never go on Facebook you're never going to be targeted based on that data. But if you ever sign up for it they will have some ad targeting ready for you
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BrandorKP posted:Do they know I exist? Yes, they do. For context, I worked in some interesting space in cyberdefense for awhile, and if you have a phone and have touched the internet, they know who you are. Your service provider sells off a ton of metadata. If you've ever used Yelp, they are selling off your location data. If you've used any free service that uses location data, they are selling that. Once you've purchased up/collected enough anonymous data, you can't start putting the pieces together relatively easy. Now that I'm in mobile gaming, this is why everyone who has to deal with facebook loving hates facebook in the industry. You have to use them because they provide the best users, but they impose a gently caress ton of bullshit on the data you get from those users because they know that their secret sauce isn't actually magic, it's just having enough users. People give away a gently caress ton of data, and you can do interesting stuff with that data. The more of that data you have, the more accurate your predictions on users are, the more valuable that data is. The more other people have that data, the less valuable your data is. Pretty much sums up FB and Linkedin.
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CFox posted:Since you mentioned QA and programming have you looked into QA Automation on the software development side of things? Lot of neat stuff there if you enjoy QA work and the pay, at least in my area, is comparable to a regular developer. Hmm seems pretty good. I know they even want to get a computer to inspect pictures of stuff at the place I work. I should probably figure out how to install tensorflow and start learning machine learning. I don't understand why I can't just double click an exe and it installs. E-thanks many people for a lot of really helpful responses. I have much to consider. Ocean Book fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Feb 4, 2018 |
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Baby Babbeh posted:Do you have any in-store credit cards or loyalty cards? No for that reason (and related sales of that info). With the loyalty cards if one bugs them long enough they'll give you a card without you providing an identity attached to it. TaintedBalance, yeah it's now obvious they know I exist from what everybody has posted. I appreciate the information you all have posted.
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BrandorKP posted:TaintedBalance, yeah it's now obvious they know I exist from what everybody has posted. I appreciate the information you all have posted.
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The Eye of Sauron is ever upon you, friends.
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Baby Babbeh posted:The Eye of Sauron is ever upon you, friends. An eye for an eye, red in tooth and claw.
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Baby Babbeh posted:The Eye of Sauron is ever upon you, friends. And its sinister purpose: To sell you poo poo you don't need real good.
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Decius posted:And its sinister purpose: To sell you poo poo you don't need real good. 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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SardonicTyrant posted:Look on the bright side; you helped us paint an even bleaker view on the state of our privacy than we ever imagined. aware of dog posted:The Waymo v Uber trial started this morning, Kate Conger's live tweeting it if you want to follow along I've been following Sarah Jeong's livetweeting and it sounds pretty loving wild.
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Bitcoin is crashing again. Down 10% in the past few hours
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Trevor Hale posted:Since you have to watch ads to get the questions, it’s a captive audience that can’t skip through advertising. They don't have ads, though (unless the ads are written into the hosts' scripts, which from what I've played I haven't noticed yet). As soon as they integrate blatant advertising between questions, the viewership will drop off significantly. Anecdotal, but most people I know that have installed it stop playing after a few days. I've also noticed games run a lot quicker now than they used to. Perhaps they've seen viewers dropping due to game length? The first few times I saw it in mid-December a game would take just over 20 minutes from the start of the hour. Now they're wrapped in about 10-15 (independent of any server crashes).
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Yeah you don't have to watch any ads but there does seem to be product placement maybe (Amazon Go was the answer to a question today followed by a whole explanation of what it is afterwards) I haven't played many games of it (and mostly the UK version because timezones) but there's some really forced references to stuff like deliveroo out of nowhere sometimes
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Possible literal fall of unicorns in an hour as Elon Musk launches a rocket with a goddamn Tesla inside it.
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