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Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
Yeah I am not afraid to tell my players "Your alignment has changed due to your action."

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Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Gridlocked posted:

Yeah I am not afraid to tell my players "Your alignment has changed due to your action."

Now if alignment mattered this edition...

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Conspiratiorist posted:

Now if alignment mattered this edition...

Yeah it's more "the alignment you scribbled on your sheet is not representative of your character." It isn't a mechanical thing and has no real meaning or bearing outside of a shorthand for a character's motivations.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Hot take: alignment should be descriptive, not prescriptive, of a character's behavior. You can start with whatever alignment you want, but if you don't live up to it, it's going to change.

Arthil
Feb 17, 2012

A Beard of Constant Sorrow
Alignment is a silly concept anyway. Monsters should have every opportunity to be peaceful and good for one example. On another hand too, sometimes doing really bad stuff is what it takes to get the results you're after. No shortage of people hailed as heroes in history who actually did some really vile stuff.

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!
Alignment isn't just dumb, I all but guarantee it's existence has contributed to the refusal of DMs and players to just loving talk to each other when there's a problem.

Don't say "your alignment has changed," say "hey Jeff that's real hosed up, I'm not sure I'm cool with that in game."

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

I refuse to write in a proper alignment anymore. Usually I'll just write something defiant like "None", or something descriptive but noncommittal like "Schlamozzle"

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!
If any of my current DMs checked my sheet they'd find that for all of 5e my characters have all been aligned "gently caress tha police"

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Razorwired posted:

If any of my current DMs checked my sheet they'd find that for all of 5e my characters have all been aligned "gently caress tha police"

"Chaotic Full Communism Now"

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

Pleads posted:

Do your part and link the thing for those of us unaware such a thing exists!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1586134783/faerie-fire-a-5e-supplemental I'm backing it. Got a feywild thing coming up later and wanted to have more poo poo for it. Plus it seems like a neat piece of work.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
I think the range of human personality and motivation is much better described by a harry potter house and a friends character than a d&d alignment.

Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

I think the range of human personality and motivation is much better described by a harry potter house and a friends character than a d&d alignment.

https://twitter.com/meakoopa/status/959541172497723393

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
im a ravenclaw phoebe

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
huh, my current character is a Hufflepuff Ross. this checks out.

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!
Excuse me my character would not help the peasants, haven't you seen that his alignment is ordering a single black coffee at the drive through?

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
I"m Lawful Joey

Elector_Nerdlingen
Sep 27, 2004



gradenko_2000 posted:

"Chaotic Full Communism Now"

Has to be Lawful Full Communism Now if you're playing the tank.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

gradenko_2000 posted:

huh, my current character is a Hufflepuff Ross. this checks out.

ugg ross campaigns are the worst

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I just write "socialist" as my alignment any time I can get away with it.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

I kinda wanna write my Tempest cleric out of the story of this Storm Kings campaign we're doing. I feel like I made kind of a serious/earnest character and he's not really meshing with the sillier vibe of the group. That said, hachi machi this is a fragile group and losing their big armored dwarf would hurt. What's the funnest thing I can do with a heavy-armored polearm master?

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!
The straight man is a time-honored position in comedy. Wear this role well, friend.

CubeTheory
Mar 26, 2010

Cube Reversal

Nehru the Damaja posted:

I kinda wanna write my Tempest cleric out of the story of this Storm Kings campaign we're doing. I feel like I made kind of a serious/earnest character and he's not really meshing with the sillier vibe of the group. That said, hachi machi this is a fragile group and losing their big armored dwarf would hurt. What's the funnest thing I can do with a heavy-armored polearm master?

Play it so straight it's ridiculous. Become so serious about everything that it's funny, take things as literally as possible.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Nehru the Damaja posted:

I kinda wanna write my Tempest cleric out of the story of this Storm Kings campaign we're doing. I feel like I made kind of a serious/earnest character and he's not really meshing with the sillier vibe of the group. That said, hachi machi this is a fragile group and losing their big armored dwarf would hurt. What's the funnest thing I can do with a heavy-armored polearm master?

Polearm Master reaction attack plus Sentinel and the Trip Maneuver.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Yeah - humourless and obtuse can be a fun comedic choice if you do it right.

That said, if you're fighting giants and have polearm master I'd totally let you vault onto them with a staff.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
I'm chaotic ugly naked guy

The Bee posted:

The straight man is a time-honored position in comedy. Wear this role well, friend.

CubeTheory posted:

Play it so straight it's ridiculous. Become so serious about everything that it's funny, take things as literally as possible.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Yeah - humourless and obtuse can be a fun comedic choice if you do it right.
This is correct

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

That said, if you're fighting giants and have polearm master I'd totally let you vault onto them with a staff.
This is also correct. You could grab a level of storm sorcerer for Jump and a little bit of flight to help out.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
So if I'm a 3 Sorc/2 Warlock can I use metamagic on spells from my warlock self?

Specifically can I Twin Eldritch Blast?

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
yep...have fun

edit: oh I'm wrong, sorry, quickening it is what I was thinking of

Jeffrey of YOSPOS fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Feb 4, 2018

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

Gridlocked posted:

So if I'm a 3 Sorc/2 Warlock can I use metamagic on spells from my warlock self?

Specifically can I Twin Eldritch Blast?

If you were below a character level of 5, yeah. As of then, unfortunately, no. It's dumb but that's when Eldritch Blast becomes 2 beams that can be targeted at different things.

Twinned Spell explicitly forbids anything that can target more than one thing, even if you opt not to:

quote:

To be eligible, a spell must be incapable of targeting more than one creature at the spell’s current level.

quote:

The spell creates more than one beam when you reach higher levels: two beams at 5th level, three beams at 11th level, and four beams at 17th level. You can direct the beams at the same target or at different ones.

e; You can however still Quicken it, to cast it as a Bonus Action and then cast it again as your regular Action.

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!

Splicer posted:

This is correct
This is also correct. You could grab a level of storm sorcerer for Jump and a little bit of flight to help out.

Pull off absolutely ridiculous stunts, and never be impressed by them. Not because you're depressed or have low self esteem, but because everyone knows it just plum does no good to get all excited about things when there's work to be done, and besides, you could've done it too if you just applied yourself and prayed to Kord properly.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

Nehru the Damaja posted:

After a few weeks in my campaign my players were looking at scenarios where inaction was supposed to look really appealing and declaring "it's impossible to be neutral on a moving train" as they attack the cops

This owns, I love that logic.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
Hey, so I got roped into DMing the next campaign for my group. It's gonna be a continuation of Lost Mines of Phandelver, and I'd like a bit of feedback as to whether or not it's gripping enough for the players.

inthesto fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Feb 4, 2018

Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:

inthesto posted:

Hey, so I got roped into DMing the next campaign for my group. It's gonna be a continuation of Lost Mines of Phandelver, and I'd like a bit of feedback as to whether or not it's gripping enough for the players.

That sounds very cool and I'd definitely be down to play in a total war scenario like that.

Schwza
Apr 28, 2008
I started DMing for a group last year and have about 6 people that, through conflicting schedules, can only field 4-5 at any given session. How do you handle the absences? Also, it makes it hard to plan encounters when I base the CR on 4 level 4s and we end up with 5, or visa versa. Everyone seems to be having fun even if they just clown on a boss that fails to hurt any of them meaningfully but I'd like to out them into some danger without a TPK.

CubeTheory
Mar 26, 2010

Cube Reversal

Schwza posted:

I started DMing for a group last year and have about 6 people that, through conflicting schedules, can only field 4-5 at any given session. How do you handle the absences? Also, it makes it hard to plan encounters when I base the CR on 4 level 4s and we end up with 5, or visa versa. Everyone seems to be having fun even if they just clown on a boss that fails to hurt any of them meaningfully but I'd like to out them into some danger without a TPK.

Try and just on the fly scale either number of enemies (i.e. 6 orcs vs 4 orcs) or scale the boss hp (drop it from 150 to 120 if you have one less player than you expected).

Elector_Nerdlingen
Sep 27, 2004



Schwza posted:

I started DMing for a group last year and have about 6 people that, through conflicting schedules, can only field 4-5 at any given session. How do you handle the absences?

Unless you're happy to make the game about single-session missions from a shared base, get used to handwaving. I mean, literally just ignore that some characters are there / not there during different sessions. It'll be fine.

Either way, any PC not present was doing something cool and dangerous off-camera and still gets xp etc.


Schwza posted:

Also, it makes it hard to plan encounters when I base the CR on 4 level 4s and we end up with 5, or visa versa. Everyone seems to be having fun even if they just clown on a boss that fails to hurt any of them meaningfully but I'd like to out them into some danger without a TPK.

If nobody else gives a gently caress, you shouldn't, either.

If you care anyway, I guess you could build each encounter twice, once for 4 players and once for 5? Don't try to be exact, but it should be relatively easy to make stuff where you can add or subtract an opponent (or move their AC, hp, number of attacks, etc up or down slightly) to put it in roughly the right zone for difficulty. You'll probably get good at eyeballing it pretty quick, especially if your fights are similarly themed.

You can always adjust the encounter on-the-fly if you need to. You don't necessarily have to fiddle with numbers, either. Have the boss send two sidekicks away to get something/someone. Have reinforcements arrive. Have the bad guys run away shaking their fists and promising to get the PCs next tiiiiiiiime.

Elector_Nerdlingen fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Feb 4, 2018

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


West Marches if you wanna get fancy, but otherwise just level everyone up together.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
My friend thought my idea for a SorcLock was too cliche. What do you thibk goons:

A Red Dragon descent Sorc who makes a pact with Mephistos for some power bevause his great great whatever Red Dragon ancestor is hunting down all of its mortal progeny because it is feeling insulted that its drunken mortal fling a few hundred years ago had resulted in the lesser races getting to tap into some dragon powers for free.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Yeah if you have groups where you're constantly running at a revolving 60-80% of players, whatever else you do, give missing people who have jobs, wives, other interests, and whatever the same XP as everyone else. Don't poo poo it up with Adventurers League "logic."

In other news, Wizards has now instituted background checks for both Magic and D&D event coordinators after some sex offenders were discovered to be involved in them (which statistically is more or less inevitable, I think). Naturally the D&D side is receiving less attention because by comparison it is almost dead compared to Magic, but:

https://company.wizards.com/article/news/making-magic-spaces-safer

quote:

The safety of Magic events is of paramount importance to us.

Recently, a few former judges and players had their sex offender status posted to social media. In accordance with our policy, the majority had already had their access to Magic organized play suspended indefinitely, and were not active in the Magic community.

We learned, however, that an individual reported to the Judge Conduct Committee was inadvertently not decertified by Magic Judges nor reported to Wizards. You can read more about that here. However, once this was brought to our attention, Wizards immediately coordinated with Magic Judges—an independent community-run organization that operates and manages the judge community and its Judge Conduct Committee—to address the situation. That individual has now been indefinitely suspended as a player and the Magic Judges decertified the individual's status as a Magic judge. When Wizards learns that a DCI member or a Wizards Play Network (WPN) retailer is on a sex offender registry, we take immediate action to remove them from organized play and our promotional programs. We have a zero-tolerance policy. Sex offenders have no place in the Magic community.

As part of our commitment to safe and inclusive spaces, tournament organizers and retailers will be explicitly required to conduct background checks for all staff (as permitted by applicable law). This includes CFB Events' Grand Prix, local store events like Friday Night Magic, and professional events like the Pro Tour and World Magic Cup as well as convention play run by Wizards.

We remain committed to working with tournament organizers, local game stores, and the Magic community to foster safe and inclusive environments. The proper channels for reporting misconduct are as follows: report judge misconduct to the Judge Conduct Committee at magicjudgefeedback@gmail.com, and retailer or player misconduct to investigations@wizards.com.

https://wpn.wizards.com/en/article/making-magic-spaces-safer

quote:

Section 5b: To protect players of all ages, to the extent permitted by applicable law, you agree to conduct background checks to meet your obligations under Section 15 on your Staff as well as those you engage with that interact with the public.

Section 5h: You will refrain from violating the WPN Code Conduct and you agree to display in your Retail Store and/or Event Locations, player and community policies as designated by Wizards from time to time.

Section 15: You will not employ or otherwise engage Staff or other individuals who interact with the public on your behalf who (i) appear on a sex offender registry (or its international equivalent), and/or (ii) have been convicted by a court of competent jurisdiction for a violent sexual offense or a crime against children.

I have a friend in Seattle who participates in the Wednesday D&D events, and he and at least one other person have quit rather than submit to a background check for an unpaid position.

The triggering incident seems to be a Magic tournament judge who was discovered to have a sexual offense on his history, reported to the governing (and ostensibly independent) coordinator organization, and then this information was not acted on.

As much as I would like to come down on the side of privacy, before I stopped participating in Wednesday events a few years ago I saw more and more little kids, so it's not just the 18-34 crowd to keep in mind.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
Ultimately you’ve gotta take an anti-rape stance, so I can’t argue against this.

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Arthil
Feb 17, 2012

A Beard of Constant Sorrow
Surprised the people running the games refused to undergo a background check they didn't have to pay for. The cost falling on the owners of every little game store that wants to keep in business with WoTC is the big thing here.

Hell my cities stuff has no connection in any official capacity with WotC/Adventure League but the owner of the place we game at every other Friday is still requiring our DMs to go through the checks because otherwise he'd just ask us to leave if a Magic game was also being ran at the same time. Which is almost always.

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