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Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

Big Mean Jerk posted:

The Orville is the same microwave TV dinner you’ve been eating since you were a kid. And that’s fine, it’s comfort food and it works in a pinch when you don’t feel like putting effort into dinner. But sometimes you want to try the new place down the road. You’re taking a gamble to try something new, and even if it sucks, well, at least you tried instead of falling back on the same routine.

It's like a microwave dinner made by a new company based on an old recipe after the original company changed it over a decade ago so that everything they've made since then tastes like cardboard and stale rear end because every other microwave dinner company switched to the stale rear end recipe at around the same time

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Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

numberoneposter posted:

Is there a police procedural show but in space?

https://youtu.be/UjjiE0OD4K0

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!






Friends don't tell friends to watch space cop.

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry
More importantly, where the hell are our potatoes O'Brien?

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Kitchner posted:

The expanse starts that way and then takes a sharp right into out there sci fi.

i rly liked the beginning of expanse when it was hard boiled detective kinda noir style

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

lol looks cool i never heard of this

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

sweet geek swag posted:

Friends don't tell friends to watch space cop.

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Yeah I've watched and enjoyed hundreds of hours of RLM content, but please don't watch space cop.

Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

Isn't police procedural/whodunnit poo poo the b-plot for like 90% of Babylon 5 episodes? Yeah, that's an exaggeration but I remember Garabaldi and other crew members spend a lot of time dealing with ~space crimes~

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Clark Nova posted:

Isn't police procedural/whodunnit poo poo the b-plot for like 90% of Babylon 5 episodes? Yeah, that's an exaggeration but I remember Garabaldi and other crew members spend a lot of time dealing with ~space crimes~

This is impossible given that 60% of non-A plot Babylon 5 is made up of oblique and direct references to the events that preceded the Holocaust.

shadow puppet of a fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Feb 4, 2018

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

shadow puppet of a posted:

This is impossible given that 60% of non-A plot Babylon 5 is made up of oblique and direct references to the events that preceded the Holocaust.

As a sci-fi Holocaust allegory, nothing beats V. Even the aliens' symbol looks like a Web 1.0 swastika.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Is it possible to get Stockholm syndrome but with a TV show? I mean I'm not saying Voyager is totally the best but I can't see why it isn't either.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

numberoneposter posted:

Is it possible to get Stockholm syndrome but with a TV show? I mean I'm not saying Voyager is totally the best but I can't see why it isn't either.

How far through are you?

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

quote:

5/3/2000. Fury 1.5 stars — Kes returns with a hidden agenda that sends her back in time in an attempt to undermine Voyager in the early weeks of its Delta Quadrant stranding.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

So you didn't happen to notice that "The Good Shepherd" would've ended with all three crewmembers dead and extra-crispy if they'd gone through with Janeway's original escape plan? A good Shepherd culls the weak and sick from the flock :unsmigghh:.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Great Leader Captain Janeway is undefeatable at Parrises squares.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

numberoneposter posted:

Great Leader Captain Janeway is undefeatable at Parrises squares.

The thing about Voyager at-large is it's generally just tedious rather than outright terrible. Aside from two episodes you haven't gotten to yet in season 7; Lineage and Repentance. Those are easily the nadir of the entire series.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Did Tom Paris invent parisses squares?

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.
no that was admiral paris


not that one the other one

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


The one from the Napoleonic wars?

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.
no the other one

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Whatever. I'll just stick to Lt Commander Strategy, the inventor of Stratagema

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Whatever. I'll just stick to Lt Commander Strategy, the inventor of Stratagema

*sticks Bugles on fingers, flails wildly for ten seconds*

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.
who invented that 10 dimensional chess game they play

and is that different from that camel toe game tuvok beat kim at

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Well, I finished Battlestar Galactica. It certainly ends better than a show like Voyager, but was it ever a step down from where it began. Daybreak started high but as it went on and on it got actively weaker until it ended with such a wet fart with that stupid rear end epilogue.

Still worth watching through at least once, but I don't really see myself coming back to anything past Season 2. I don't need to sit through a three hour long season finale because holy hell did it drag on and on and on. It felt like they stretched the entire runtime of Return of the King's endings into a show, and it could have ended at around twenty different points. There was also the utter failure to do a buildup to the series finale or raising the stakes, considering the Cylons all but vanished from the show following the Resurrection Hub until the finale. Oh well. It was a pretty flat ending, but still better than some other shows based purely around production value and acting skills. Just a shame about the script falling apart.

All I have left is to watch Razor and the mini episodes. I don't think I'll touch Blood and Chrome or Caprica, though.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
First off; we told you so.

Second; Razor is indeed well worth a watch.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Arcsquad12 posted:

Well, I finished Battlestar Galactica. It certainly ends better than a show like Voyager, but was it ever a step down from where it began. Daybreak started high but as it went on and on it got actively weaker until it ended with such a wet fart with that stupid rear end epilogue.

Still worth watching through at least once, but I don't really see myself coming back to anything past Season 2. I don't need to sit through a three hour long season finale because holy hell did it drag on and on and on. It felt like they stretched the entire runtime of Return of the King's endings into a show, and it could have ended at around twenty different points. There was also the utter failure to do a buildup to the series finale or raising the stakes, considering the Cylons all but vanished from the show following the Resurrection Hub until the finale. Oh well. It was a pretty flat ending, but still better than some other shows based purely around production value and acting skills. Just a shame about the script falling apart.

All I have left is to watch Razor and the mini episodes. I don't think I'll touch Blood and Chrome or Caprica, though.

Blood & Chrome is pretty worthless. I enjoyed Caprica, but I’ve only seen it once and I have no idea if it holds up.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Blood & Chrome is pretty worthless. I enjoyed Caprica, but I’ve only seen it once and I have no idea if it holds up.

I've seen Blood and Chrome before. The only really interesting thing about it is that half its script is references to Deep Space Nine.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


"Make her comfortable"

Burnham and Georgeiou are going to do STD sex.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Kill off every single STD cast member in the next and final S1 episode, except for Staments, and give him command of a sedate, brightly-lit TNG-style weekly adventure ship for season 2. Have him never speak of his past and make a dislike of mushrooms his personal 'earl grey hot'

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Mirror Michelle Yeoh being on Discovery means that they can't turn the lights up 30% yet.

Grandma Panic!
Nov 4, 2006
I've been a hardcore trek fan since like 13, and as much as I want to, i'm not going to give this show any more chances to redeem itself. It's just bad. It has plot holes. It makes little sense. It doesn't tie into anything past trek. It's the Family Guy of Star Trek. I sincerely wish it wasn't.

edit: i'll be simply happy enough to read about how this show assfucked its way into the star trek canon when it's cancelled somehow and then I can be done with it.

Grandma Panic! fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Feb 5, 2018

Otto Von Jizzmark
Dec 27, 2004
Has any nerd actually figured out how to play parisee squares?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
They did but then their kid died in vrchat after playing.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


You can call it having a bland taste or whatever, I'm not gonna apologize for liking my Star Trek always slightly dorky and eternally optimistic about our shared future, despite whatever might happen. I can go elsewhere to get my fix of badly written grimdark gore-y Serious Sci-fi. STD just feels wrong and while I can respect that they want to do something new, it's just too much of a hot mess right now.

burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.
I caught this still several years ago and it popped up in my facebook memories today. Picard was such a disciplinarian.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry
The funny thing about STD is how easily they could have made it good:

1) It is set after Voyager. The Federation is at its strongest, the Borg are kicking their wounds, the Romulans and the Kingons exhausted after the Dominion war and the events of Nemesis. The Cardassian Union is no more. The Dominion is safely contained beyond the wormhole. Starfleet is aware that due to the damage warp drives have on the fabric of space (see: TNG) and the increasing size of the Federation, they simple must be able to respond to threats faster, and the stories told by the Voyager crew convince them they need to be exploring the delta quadrant for threats other than the Borg. Hence, the spore drive.

2) The first story thing to happen should be a raid by Klingon radicals on a key outpost, discovery is sent as it's the only ship that can get there in time, which is more believeable as the Federation were caught off guard. The Klingon jump attack does the same thing because that was cool, and then on the way home they "accidentally" jump into the mirror universe. Second officer Michael Burnham discovers her tough, disciplinarian captain who specifically chose her for her post is actually a mirror universe guy, and it all plays out pretty much the same (she can even save mirror emperor as she hints that she blames herself for her death).

3) They jump to leave the mirror universe but find they did not jump back into the prime universe, and instead jumped into an alternate dimension with blue Kingons. They realise this when they accidentally find a Klingon holy site and get used as an excuse to start a holy war. Non-prime starfleet turns up due to the prime discovery signal, and you get the space battles you normally get with the shenzou. It turns out the non-prime discovery also went missing so they thought this discovery was theirs. Prime discovery helps strike a blow against this stronger Klingon empire before leaving for the prime universe.

4) After they return from the non-prime alternate reality you can pretty much do whatever the gently caress you want, and any future ignoring of canon can be explained with "they got back as close to their original reality as possible but small details remained different. It's a time where perfect is the enemy of good".

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry
All you need to open the first episode with is this:

Scene: Teleporter room, Michael Burnham teleport onto the ship.

Crewman: Sir, the second officer has beamed aboard.

Captain over intercom: I'll be with you shortly.

There is an awkward silence between Burnham and the crew member.

Burnham: Sooo, this is R&D's pet project eh?

Crew member: Yes ma'am, they say its the future of the Federation.

Captain: At ease crewman. Burnham, welcome aboard. There will be time for a tour later, come with me to the bridge.

Walking through the corridors giving a chance for people to walk past showcasing different uniforms. Maybe a team of crewmen running military style. People stopping to salute the captain.

Captain: Sorry I was late Burnham, you'll find I run a tight ship and as a result my time is always short.

Burnham: Don't mention it sir. Let me just say I'm grateful for the opportunity, especially after...

Captain: Yes the Shenzou. Listen to me Burnham, I don't care about your past, I care about results, and frankly I don't care how you get them. As far as I'm concerned you're a high performing officer, and as long as you stay that way your past cab stay in the past. Now, welcome to the Discovery.

Enters bridge, bridge porn shot.

That scene is like nearly all the important bits from the first 8 episodes or so.

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shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Kitchner posted:

That scene is like nearly all the important bits from the first 8 episodes or so.

Uh, what? No. The important bit is a long, expensive and ultimately pointless action-y scene in the desert about drilling well-water for some race of thirsty bee people.

Remember that? That scene that really brought to life the Star Trek universe and not at all a heap of generic sci-fi mishmash with the occasional wimpy communicator sound foleyd in like nostalgic clip art atop a shady timeshare powerpoint?

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