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Rotten Red Rod posted:Ugh reminds me of that wingsuit guy who has had like more than half of his friends die and said he would stop once he had kids... And now he has kids and still tried to wingsuit off Everest anyway. It's a loving mental illness. And it’s drat hard to believe in his ‘one last job/jump/heist’ story. If you’re not gonna stop now with many of your friends dead and a family to take care of, well, you ain’t stopping. Even if he survives his Everest wingsuit, it feels almost a given that he’ll find some reason not to stop.
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Picnic Princess posted:Agreed. New year, new title. You've just warmed this little lurkers' heart.  Maluco Marinero posted:And it’s drat hard to believe in his ‘one last job/jump/heist’ story. If you’re not gonna stop now with many of your friends dead and a family to take care of, well, you ain’t stopping. Even if he survives his Everest wingsuit, it feels almost a given that he’ll find some reason not to stop. Yeah this is pretty much a classic addiction pattern. Just one more fix...
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Feb 2, 2018 22:18
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I read that Guardian story, she's out of her loving mind, I didn't even like the description of that other guy freezing to death with blood pouring out of his mouth. It must be a very narrow window of mental illness that includes both "batshit crazy enough to want to do this" and "functional enough to not poop in your hand and fling it at the visitors".
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I suppose it would have been better if this article said that "Ryan Hawks, age 65, slumped over at his desk and died in his cubicle after 40 years of faithful service to Acme Incorporated. He was just five years away from a meager pension that would have allowed him to eke out his sunset years living like a dog. He leaves behind a wife who hasn't slept with him in 20 years and a couple of kids who were too busy with their own problems to care about what he was doing."
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Feb 5, 2018 00:40
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Epitope posted:I suppose it would have been better if this article said that "Ryan Hawks, age 65, slumped over at his desk and died in his cubicle after 40 years of faithful service to Acme Incorporated. He was just five years away from a meager pension that would have allowed him to eke out his sunset years living like a dog. He leaves behind a wife who hasn't slept with him in 20 years and a couple of kids who were too busy with their own problems to care about what he was doing." Yeah, those are the only two options in life.
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Epitope posted:I suppose it would have been better if this article said that "Ryan Hawks, age 65, slumped over at his desk and died in his cubicle after 40 years of faithful service to Acme Incorporated. He was just five years away from a meager pension that would have allowed him to eke out his sunset years living like a dog. He leaves behind a wife who hasn't slept with him in 20 years and a couple of kids who were too busy with their own problems to care about what he was doing." People in this thread are here generally because we are interested in climbing and have respect for climbers so i think you're missing why people would show concern for climbers who seem literally addicted. I guess it doesn't "hurt" anything if a random person goes up and dies but the thing is that they might leave family behind or worse yet put themselves in a position of danger requiring other people you endanger their own lives in a rescue attempt.
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Feb 5, 2018 01:45
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Personally I can understand the crazy hardcore maniacs somewhat. I'm here to make fun of people who photoshop themselves into the most accessible alpine scenery on the planet then go up with only indoor climbing wall experience and make a gosh darn fool of themselves.
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Feb 5, 2018 04:58
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Yeah, I know an older dude who used to do proper big mountains back in the day. When his team finally lost someone, his reaction was "Jesus I have a family and that could've been me, gonna stick to hiking trails from now on cuz this is a game for the young, reckless and unmarried", not "I gotta get back up there to lose my other foot". There are no old climbers, as the saying goes, and I respect the dude both for his past feats of endurance and his capacity to not give in to summit fever when he already had a wife and kids to look after.
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Feb 5, 2018 07:47
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Yeah really true about the no old climbers thing. If Steck can't make it home, what chance does anyone else have? (Messner doesn't count because there's a 70% chance he is literally God)
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barbecue at the folks posted:Yeah, I know an older dude who used to do proper big mountains back in the day. When his team finally lost someone, his reaction was "Jesus I have a family and that could've been me, gonna stick to hiking trails from now on cuz this is a game for the young, reckless and unmarried", not "I gotta get back up there to lose my other foot". There are no old climbers, as the saying goes, and I respect the dude both for his past feats of endurance and his capacity to not give in to summit fever when he already had a wife and kids to look after. This is really it. You can’t have everything, certain types of lives are thoroughly incompatible with having a family, kids, people who would be impacted severely by your passing. Not just saddened, but their life completely changed by it. You can try to have both, but what you’re really doing is putting your personal pride and ambitions ahead of your family, and if that’s what you want to do, well I for one feel like you’ve got some hosed priorities and maybe you should’ve not had kids.
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barbecue at the folks posted:I don't understand why they talk in menacing tones about the "killer mountain" when the real story is in asking why these people, many with families to take care of, willingly throw their lives away in a frozen hell they actively climbed and suffered their way into. The mountain is not going to force it's way into your flat to freeze your foot off, that's someone else's fault entirely. I met some Everest people while deployed, ironically their reasons are similar to dudes that seek out deployments and poo poo. They typically have boring poo poo lives, and life "makes sense" in a high stress, socially isolated environments. Even myself, while on deployment, felt better than usual because I had my routine, and the sense of danger (not really that elevated compared to more dangerous jobs in the military, but higher than baseline) kept my focus on completing objectives and away from the banality of life back home. It's insidious because you're aware it's selfish but you rationalize away the underlying motivations and are enabled by the people around you who have the same problem.
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Good analysis, thank you. So we have a duty to make fun of these people as much as humanly possible, otherwise we're enablers. It's for their own good.
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Feb 5, 2018 18:51
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Saving lives with our posts
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ante posted:Good analysis, thank you. Also to maybe affect the behavior of their enablers, which to some degree extends to society at large which on balance rewards Everest junkies with accolades rather than ridicule. So we're culture warriors in addition to lifesavers.
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I just got a push notification on my phone for this story: At least seven dead as plane crashes at Kathmandu airport Is this around when people start showing up to base camp? Or still too early? Wondering if the mountain is already hungry 
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Mar 12, 2018 12:44
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Oof, at least 50 dead. There are times when the individual incident will make you more worried than the statistics and this is one of those times.
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Mar 12, 2018 12:53
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anglerfish posted:I just got a push notification on my phone for this story: This is freaking epic moar blood for the mountain god!
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anglerfish posted:I just got a push notification on my phone for this story: You're doing it wrong, hth
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anglerfish posted:I just got a push notification on my phone for this story: multistability posted:This is freaking epic Except none of these people were decadent western climbers and instead were likely locals visiting family or conducting business. A rich American orthodontist who ignores sherpas' pleas to turn around and dies on a summit push leaving behind a shattered family deserves a little mocking for his poor decisions. We really shouldn't be cheering for peoples' deaths, especially those that have nothing to do with the Everest Industrial Complex.
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Mar 12, 2018 19:59
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Isn't Kathmandu Airport totally terrifying to land on? Like you gently caress it up, you crash into/off a mountain. Eta-49 people. 
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I'm not sure how bad Kathmandu is to land at, but in terms of land or die from a mountain face you're thinking of Lukla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhvpwDuh3C4 It's also really busy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRILVNMTuhU
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weg posted:Except none of these people were decadent western climbers and instead were likely locals visiting family or conducting business. I'm with weg - I reserve my Everest-related mockery for people who tempt fate & make poor decisions. Dying in a plane crash over 100 km from the mountain does not fall under that category, even if it's a plane chartered by the Octogenarian Amateur Climbing Association. The plane that crashed had 71 passengers onboard and came from Bangladesh, so were far more likely to be locals.
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anglerfish posted:I just got a push notification on my phone for this story: Come the gently caress on man, this poo poo is why this thread got chased out of GBS. Don't be a oval office for no reason. Like 50 people are dead.
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Yeah, nearly all of the victims were just regular locals doing routine travel. This has nothing to do with making fun of rich Westerners getting in over their heads for glory and profit. hosed up, man.
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weg posted:We really shouldn't be cheering for peoples' deaths, especially those that have nothing to do with the Everest Industrial Complex. That’s the Honourable E. I. C. to you. 
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Everest winter season is over guys. Has been for a while. There might still be some dudes trying for a K2 Winter summit. Don't respond to the QCS trolls. They're the only people happy to hear about 50'ish people losing their lives. Pathetic bunch, they are.
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weg posted:I'm not sure how bad Kathmandu is to land at, but in terms of land or die from a mountain face you're thinking of Lukla: That were luxury! We used to have to land on a dirt strip, no control tower, no apron, no baggage staff and someone might turn up to get us to the airport if we were lucky! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQB1578Vesg edit: from the looks of this, the control tower was the last thing to be built: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Grx5ZiT8qk ewe2 fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Mar 13, 2018 |
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Yeah okay, any kind of landing on non-pavement scares the hell out of me. I have to fly in a month, but luckily(?) it is into PDX. Sad to hear of the crash, thats not the kind of reckless bad gamble story I like reading about. Hope their families are okay, and you should probably just delete that lovely smug post as this isn’t the plane crash porn thread.
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Platystemon posted:That’s the Honourable E. I. C. to you. ewe2 posted:dirt strip Yeah that old dirt strip looks a good bit sketchier. You also had to hope that your radio didn't give out on approach and someone didn't want to leave at the same time. I wonder if paving it actually opens the door for more accidents as pilots who would never have attempted to fly that route now see it as less dangerous than it really is. Pavement and a tower is ultimately a good thing though, but it does take a little away from the sense of adventure lol.
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shame on an IGA posted:Yeah really true about the no old climbers thing. If Steck can't make it home, what chance does anyone else have? I stopped following this thread for about 2 years, and I come back to find out Ueli Steck is dead That really, really sucks.
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If ya poke a sleeping bear, eventually you get the horns.
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nsaP posted:If ya poke a sleeping bear, eventually you get the horns. Or, you know, get get spraypainted across the sleeping bear over a thousand meter drop. One of the two.
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He died doing what he loved. Falling and screaming. Massive shame he died, but I thought (and pretty much said here before his death) that it was a suicide mission.
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Apr 9, 2018 23:56
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I don’t believe Reinhold Messner exists.
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Even Messner hosed up and went up Everest alone in the wrong season and nearly died.
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This just popped up on my FB feed. It's now in the OP and also I also edited the OP a bit (took out the deathpool and changed the dates of stuff. I don't have so much time at the moment so if anyone has suggestions/edits for the OP let me know)
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This thread is so quiet during the off-season. I propose that we create our own content by helping these experienced & prepared people live their dreams! I want to climb Mount Everest to show my son that anything in life is possible I've come to learn that its expensive asf to climb Mount Everest I will reach the top or die trying. Sky diving...since the very first time I've gone, I've had this crazy urge and desire to do it over Mount Everest And one bittersweet success story: Climbing Everest for Cancer Ian Toothill successfully reached the summit of Everest in June 2017, and passed away in January 2018. He changed his focus to fundraising for a cancer charity for a cancer charity, a campaign which is still open.
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Jazz Police posted:This thread is so quiet during the off-season. Just to be clear, he spent $50-80k climbing Everest so that he could raise 10,000 (about $15,000) for cancer
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ante posted:Just to be clear, he spent $50-80k climbing Everest so that he could raise 10,000 (about $15,000) for cancer And to become the first person with cancer to reach the summit of Mount Everest, an accomplishment so momentous he is now 19th on a list of Disabled and Diseased Summiters
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