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Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Yup, that's the one. Boy howdy it's like coming home to find your entire house covered in meat

I would have submitted is as ohdearsweetholyfuckpleasekillme.jpg personally

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Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Hey shotgun to the face isn't chemistry guys.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Farmdizzle posted:

Found it. It's even worse than I remembered, his entire nose is gone, too, so there's no cropping of just his eyes that can be done without including gore. And apparently, according to the old r/WTF thread where I found it, it actually was an attempted shotgun suicide and the filename "motorcycle.jpg" was just what it was submitted as to rotten.com.

:nms: THIS REDDIT THREAD HAS THE PHOTO AND IT'S SUPER hosed UP AND GROSS :nms:

That's the one I remembered! Hello old friend.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Arglebargle III posted:

Hey shotgun to the face isn't chemistry guys.

It happened because of a chemical reaction though


But, for my part in this derail to grodytown, I apologise

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Midjack posted:

That's the one I remembered! Hello old friend.

I remember them showing us that in medic school and going "what would you do?!?!?!?"

Their answer was "Well, if he's breathing, let him sit up like that and bleed a bit to think about what he's done :smug: :smug:"

I hated army medic school

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

I remember them showing us that in medic school and going "what would you do?!?!?!?"

Their answer was "Well, if he's breathing, let him sit up like that and bleed a bit to think about what he's done :smug: :smug:"

I hated army medic school
Yeah, I feel like that comes up in a ton of places. I saw it in my BLS course, then again in an airway management class for NPs, and a few times it came up talking to some friends of mine going through paramedic school.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
Any advice for dealing with Methyl Ethyl Ketone Peroxide? Gotta mix some in as a hardener for a cast i'm making, and never having dealt with it before it sounds like nasty stuff. Normally for what we do we're just using safety glasses and respirators, this is something new for us.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

M_Gargantua posted:

Any advice for dealing with Methyl Ethyl Ketone Peroxide? Gotta mix some in as a hardener for a cast i'm making, and never having dealt with it before it sounds like nasty stuff. Normally for what we do we're just using safety glasses and respirators, this is something new for us.

It should be in solution with some organic. That'll drastically reduce the ability of it to blow up in your face. Consult the sds from the supplier for PPE.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

M_Gargantua posted:

Any advice for dealing with Methyl Ethyl Ketone Peroxide? Gotta mix some in as a hardener for a cast i'm making, and never having dealt with it before it sounds like nasty stuff. Normally for what we do we're just using safety glasses and respirators, this is something new for us.

I was about to write, "MEK is fine" before I noticed the peroxide. PPE & don't let it sit around in the back of the storage cupboard.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

M_Gargantua posted:

Any advice for dealing with Methyl Ethyl Ketone Peroxide? Gotta mix some in as a hardener for a cast i'm making, and never having dealt with it before it sounds like nasty stuff. Normally for what we do we're just using safety glasses and respirators, this is something new for us.

don't drop it

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Ola posted:

My life needed to take a turn where I would not click things that said they were worse than "kitten than doesn't want to go in the pool, gets thrown in the pool".

Something worse aye? What about...

https://i.imgur.com/YO4ltvq.png

TWO CATS IN A POOL!

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

RandomPauI posted:

Something worse aye? What about...

https://i.imgur.com/YO4ltvq.png

TWO CATS IN A POOL!

Not clicking :cry:

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Ola posted:

Not clicking :cry:
It's just two annoyed cats swimming. :3:

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Collateral Damage posted:

It's just two annoyed cats swimming. :3:

I lied, it was for comic effect. I did click, but very gently.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Ola posted:

I lied, it was for comic effect. I did click, but very gently.
I'll admit I approached the link with some apprehension as well.

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

M_Gargantua posted:

Any advice for dealing with Methyl Ethyl Ketone Peroxide?

I'd hire a temp and be out of the building when it's being worked with.

Organic peroxides scare the hell outta me.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



mycomancy posted:

I'd hire a temp and be out of the building when it's being worked with.

Organic peroxides scare the hell outta me.

What about peroxide peroxides?

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2014/10/10/things_i_wont_work_with_peroxide_peroxides

quote:

But I have to admit, I’d never thought much about the next analog of hydrogen peroxide. Instead of having two oxygens in there, why not three: HOOOH? Indeed, why not? This is a general principle that can be extended to many other similar situations. Instead of being locked in a self-storage unit with two rabid wolverines, why not three? Instead of having two liters of pyridine poured down your trousers, why not three? And so on – it’s a liberating thought.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Mustached Demon posted:

It should be in solution with some organic. That'll drastically reduce the ability of it to blow up in your face. Consult the sds from the supplier for PPE.

Now i'm reading about the antimarkinokov rule, which is something i'd never heard of until today. I don't know if thats actually related, but I Am Not A Chemist.

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

loving nope. No thanks.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

M_Gargantua posted:

Now i'm reading about the antimarkinokov rule, which is something i'd never heard of until today. I don't know if thats actually related, but I Am Not A Chemist.

That's dangerous speak if you're not a chemist.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

I don't get it. What does butyllithium have to do with potluck dog food?

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


I thought they were Enochian sigils at first intended to determine which Goetic demon or angel you wanted to ravage your bum with spices. Then I saw the Li.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
It’s a roundabout way of labelling the spiciness of the hot wings at the lab Big Game™ party. They are arranged left to right, in order of increasing spiciness and increasing reactivity of the compounds depicted on their labels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaVyvy1hOm4

n‐butyl lithium (far left) smolders on exposure to air.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9VNaUY-ri4

t‐butyl lithium readily bursts into flame.

sec-butyl lithium is somewhere in‐between.

Platystemon has a new favorite as of 07:12 on Feb 5, 2018

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


I'd have given each and every one of them a try. They do look tasty. Someone had some big brave balls to almost clear that little bowl of :supaburn::supaburn::supaburn: ones.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Hexenritter posted:

I'd have given each and every one of them a try. They do look tasty. Someone had some big brave balls to almost clear that little bowl of :supaburn::supaburn::supaburn: ones.

quote:

Well two of the 3 people who ate the t-BuLi wings ended up throwing up due to them being too hot so diethylzinc would have been pure novelty

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001



hoo boy. Habaneros are the upper end of my adventurousness and the intestinal cramps that followed (and the :gonk: "come oooon ice cream" situation thereafter) mean it's probably a good thing I have never tried your t-BuLi wings.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

Platystemon posted:

t‐butyl lithium readily bursts into flame.

I had never heard of this compound before, and on looking it up I was pleasantly surprised to find the first 4-4-4 NFPA diamond I've ever seen. Cool stuff

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tert-Butyllithium

Anything else that has a 4-4-4? Thread favorite ClF3 is nonflammable, so that's a no-go. Hydrazines are close, but only get a 3 for reactivity. Most other extremely dangerous compounds seem to get two of three, but are safe in the third way.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Sagebrush posted:

I had never heard of this compound before, and on looking it up I was pleasantly surprised to find the first 4-4-4 NFPA diamond I've ever seen. Cool stuff

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tert-Butyllithium

Anything else that has a 4-4-4? Thread favorite ClF3 is nonflammable, so that's a no-go. Hydrazines are close, but only get a 3 for reactivity. Most other extremely dangerous compounds seem to get two of three, but are safe in the third way.

Tert-butyl hydroperoxide claims to.

Diborane might depending your source. I see it more as a 4-4-3.

Mostly poo poo that's bottled suffering. Probably half the gases used in chemical vapor deposition too.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/959714245741957120

https://twitter.com/peroxycarbonate/status/959713430251819009

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010



That’s awesome

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Sagebrush posted:

I had never heard of this compound before, and on looking it up I was pleasantly surprised to find the first 4-4-4 NFPA diamond I've ever seen. Cool stuff

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tert-Butyllithium

Anything else that has a 4-4-4? Thread favorite ClF3 is nonflammable, so that's a no-go. Hydrazines are close, but only get a 3 for reactivity. Most other extremely dangerous compounds seem to get two of three, but are safe in the third way.

isn't ClF3 insanely hypergolic? how does that count as nonflammable?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

It's doesn't burn. It makes everything else burn, but that's a separate hazard.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





oh, i see

it, uh
seems like kind of a moot point since everything will be on fire?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

Slavic Crime Yacht posted:

oh, i see

it, uh
seems like kind of a moot point since everything will be on fire?

It's an important difference for many reasons. For instance, if you have a ClF3 fire going on, you have to recognize that the compound is an oxidizer, so none of the firefighting methods that rely on oxygen deprivation will put it out, and indeed some of them (fire blankets, sand) will just fuel it even more.

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!

Sagebrush posted:

It's an important difference for many reasons. For instance, if you have a ClF3 fire going on, you have to recognize that the compound is an oxidizer, so none of the firefighting methods that rely on oxygen deprivation will put it out, and indeed some of them (fire blankets, sand) will just fuel it even more.

Pretty much the only thing that wouldn't fuel it would be calcium fluoride, since it's already fluorinated to hell and back, right?

Syd Midnight
Sep 23, 2005

"For dealing with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes." - Ignition 6:3

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Sagebrush posted:

It's an important difference for many reasons. For instance, if you have a ClF3 fire going on, you have to recognize that the compound is an oxidizer, so none of the firefighting methods that rely on oxygen deprivation will put it out, and indeed some of them (fire blankets, sand) will just fuel it even more.

So you either have to isolate the fuel (anything, in the case of ClF3) or remove the heat? How do you fight a fire when you can’t remove the oxidizer? Try to blow it out with a noble gas? Toss metal into it until you get the relevant metallic fluoride? Let it burn itself out because :stonklol:? Derek Lowe mentioned that ClF3 has a use in semiconductor processing, so there has to be a way to deal with it other than evacuation, right?

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Build the factory on a large metal disc and project orion the godforsaken thing into vacuum?

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The Claptain
May 11, 2014

Grimey Drawer
From theCargo Decoder app, not sure of original source:

quote:

EMERGENCY RESPONSE

FIRE
Small Fire
CAUTION: These materials do not burn but will support combustion. Some will react violently with water.
· Contain fire and let burn. If fire must be fought, water spray or fog is recommended.
· Water only; no dry chemical, CO2 or Halon®.
· Do not get water inside containers.
· Move containers from fire area if you can do it without risk.
· Damaged cylinders should be handled only by specialists.
Fire involving Tanks
· Fight fire from maximum distance or use unmanned hose holders or monitor nozzles.
· Cool containers with flooding quantities of water until well after fire is out.
· Do not direct water at source of leak or safety devices; icing may occur.
· Withdraw immediately in case of rising sound from venting safety devices or discoloration of tank.
· ALWAYS stay away from tanks engulfed in fire.
· For massive fire, use unmanned hose holders or monitor nozzles; if this is impossible, withdraw from area and let fire burn.

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