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Shugojin posted:It's a useful instrument and still present on songs, there just aren't GUITAR GODS on every radio station right now and thats alright
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Wark Say posted:It's because we've been looking at the wrong place all this time. Misha Mansoor? Tosin Abasi? Ola Englund? Who gives a gently caress about those nerdlingers! Taylor Swift is where it's at! 
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Feb 4, 2018 21:53
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dex_sda posted:I think it's true that fewer people pick up guitar these days, but yes, it's not going anywhere. i don't know that that first part is necessarily true the overall guitar market's shrinking but it's concentrated in the overpriced harley-davidson type boomer segment, while the budget end has grown a ton which would indicate more beginners picking it up. also a big part of the drop in sales came during the recession when pretty much all luxury spending took a hit the same percentage of people who stick with it's probably the same because at the end of the day it takes time and consistency to get to where you're actually playing something
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Feb 4, 2018 22:12
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The one thing I'm glad is that, for however many whine that "the guitar is dead  " and poo poo like that, for as little as... I dunno, 400 dollars? Or something like that, you can get a Korean-made Agile / Indonesian-made LTD which will, 9 times out of 10, hold up for you. I mean, sure, you're probably gonna want to spend at least 200 bucks in putting locking tuners / different pickups at some point, but still! And if you save up like 800 bucks, you can get an LTD's with locking tuners AND SD / EMG pickups or hell, even with an Evertune if it's a limited-edition kinda dealie!The other guitar player in my (sorta) post-rock band has like at least half-a-dozen expensive guitars and whatnot (we're talking an Aristides 7-string, a Maryland-made PRS Custom 24 and a Mayones 8 string, to name the 3 I can recall off the bat), but for live / recording situations? She uses an LTD Eclipse that came with an Evertune bridge and a Gretsch from the Fall Out Boy dude that I helped her with installing locking-tuners. I myself mainly use a 28.5 Inch Scale Agile Baritone, which I've taken to tune similarly to what Steph from the Deftones would use in a 6 string (F♯-C♯-F♯-B-D♯-G♯). I got it for 350 dollars. That is loving nuts. In the best way. 
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Feb 4, 2018 23:19
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i dunno in the case of agile their stock pickups are actually pretty decent and they use grover tuners sucks about the labor conditions in the korean factories though
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Feb 4, 2018 23:26
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Wark Say posted:It's because we've been looking at the wrong place all this time. Misha Mansoor? Tosin Abasi? Ola Englund? Who gives a gently caress about those nerdlingers! Taylor Swift is where it's at! the comments are a nightmare zone but you probably knew that
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Feb 5, 2018 00:07
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The Muppets On PCP posted:i dunno in the case of agile their stock pickups are actually pretty decent and they use grover tuners On the second thing, aren't improved labor conditions on SK-factories the reason the main overseas companies (like Cort and WMIC) moved most of their operations to Indonesia or China and whatnot? I mean, it's what I've heard from the Know your Gear guy, so grain of salt and such.
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Feb 5, 2018 00:28
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Wark Say posted:They totally are! Had mine for 5 months now and the only new thing I've gotten was a new nut (previous one got slightly damaged). i got one of these last year and was planning on spending almost as much as i paid for the guitar on a duncan distortion/jazz set then i saw this comparison video and got a set of cepheus passives off reverb for like $40. no regrets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRgJ5GtZXGY quote:On the second thing, aren't improved labor conditions on SK-factories the reason the main overseas companies (like Cort and WMIC) moved most of their operations to Indonesia or China and whatnot? I mean, it's what I've heard from the Know your Gear guy, so grain of salt and such. it was cor-tek workers starting to protest and unionize, but yeah
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Feb 5, 2018 01:31
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Wark Say posted:It's because we've been looking at the wrong place all this time. Misha Mansoor? Tosin Abasi? Ola Englund? Who gives a gently caress about those nerdlingers! Taylor Swift is where it's at! It's a surprisingly good article with a very clickbaity headline
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Feb 5, 2018 02:26
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While we don't own any name-brand headliner guitars, we own a lot of the foreign-built budget edition guitars, and I'll take them any day over a Gibson or Fender that cost 10 times as much (or more). I haven't played a Les Paul that appreciably beats out my Epi. My Squier II strat has a better neck then almost any American Standard I've played. Our PRS SE is ridiculously close to a "real" one. The Squier Jag Bass is a really fuckin' good rock bass. "Budget" guitars are great and I hope that people in general continue to catch on. (Not bluesdad/dentist collector-types, though. Drain them for all they have.)
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Wark Say posted:The one thing I'm glad is that, for however many whine that "the guitar is dead I will spend serious money on an acoustic or classical guitar, but I never have and never will throw down serious coin on an electric. Past the $500-ish mark on the used market, I have never found a high-end electric that I thought was worth the extra money.
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Feb 5, 2018 06:13
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$1,500 is my reasonable limit. I would go higher for custom but that’s it at this point. I’ve been let down too much at the higher end of pricing even if there’s a ton of quality around at that level.
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Trig Discipline posted:I will spend serious money on an acoustic or classical guitar, but I never have and never will throw down serious coin on an electric. Past the $500-ish mark on the used market, I have never found a high-end electric that I thought was worth the extra money.  By 500$ a guitar feels good, plays good, and sounds good out of the output. Then it's all in the amp. An acoustic/classical is the entire instrument, by contrast.
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Shugojin posted:It's a surprisingly good article with a very clickbaity headline Anecdotally, I have seen this exact thing. My wife's cousin has two daughters aged 7 and 9 and we just took them to Guitar Center to help them pick out guitars because they want to start playing like Taylor Swift. Say what you want about her music, but if she is making young girls interested in playing guitar, that is undeniably a good thing.
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MrSargent posted:Anecdotally, I have seen this exact thing. My wife's cousin has two daughters aged 7 and 9 and we just took them to Guitar Center to help them pick out guitars because they want to start playing like Taylor Swift. Say what you want about her music, but if she is making young girls interested in playing guitar, that is undeniably a good thing. I hope you did what every good second uncle would do and led them towards the Jackson and ESP/LTD section of the store.
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dex_sda posted:
Yeah exactly.
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Trig Discipline posted:I will spend serious money on an acoustic or classical guitar, but I never have and never will throw down serious coin on an electric. Past the $500-ish mark on the used market, I have never found a high-end electric that I thought was worth the extra money. I have yet to break 4 digits on an electric guitar, and probably never will (as much as I'd like a Suhr Modern). Like if I get to that point where I've got $2k+ to blow on guitar stuff, I'm probably going to get a Squier JMJM (which still has the nicest neck I've ever felt on a FMIC product), a Charvel Pro Mod San Dimas, and some pedals.
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Just curious, are the current wave of budget amps as good as budget guitars? I've only tinkered around on a boss katana 1x12 for a few minutes and it sounded pretty decent but how does the head sound when hooked up to a decent cabinet? IE can you make a pretty drat effective travel rig for like $800 tops?
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Spanish Manlove posted:I hope you did what every good second uncle would do and led them towards the Jackson and ESP/LTD section of the store. I mean, we played just about every instrument in Guitar Center haha. I slipped away for a second to look at some pedals and after a few minutes I heard someone just start wailing randomly on the drums as my wife walked over and said, "Guess where the girls are again?" After replying with "The Drum Room", a few people around us started laughing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbMVkXnyJYY Switchfoot is still around?! They weren't meant to live for THIS LONG!
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who the hell are those guys i thought that was the band with sammy hagar and joe satriani that nobody listens to
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The Muppets On PCP posted:who the hell are those guys i thought that was the band with sammy hagar and joe satriani that nobody listens to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXcrEVFZOXs And the band you're thinking of is Chickenfoot hahaha e: Okay this one was pretty big too, but around the same exact time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Gvdgs_R1c Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:who the hell are those guys i thought that was the band with sammy hagar and joe satriani that nobody listens to Man, it still surprises me the number of bands who still released stuff after the 2003-2006 period (what I like to call "The Myspace Era"). These Switchfoot guys are among those. Out of the whole "Summer of Screamo" bands, there were maybe... 10 good bands?
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Wark Say posted:Chickenfoot? (Satch, Hagar, Michael Anthony and
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i think you guys are confusing them with the classic rock band that did that train train song with the harmonica solo at the beginning
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I saw on Facebook the other night that one of my friends drove an hour away to see Avenged Sevenfold, Breaking Benjamin and Bullet for my Valentine. It's been a solid 12 years at least since those bands were at the height of their popularity, right? And they weren't even good then, just popular. I guess they'll always have a market, though.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I saw on Facebook the other night that one of my friends drove an hour away to see Avenged Sevenfold, Breaking Benjamin and Bullet for my Valentine. It's been a solid 12 years at least since those bands were at the height of their popularity, right? And they weren't even good then, just popular. I guess they'll always have a market, though. for the radio rock audience their world effectively ended sometime around 2006 and they've remained in temporal stasis ever since pretty sure they're the remaining holdouts still buying cds
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Feb 6, 2018 01:40
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I saw on Facebook the other night that one of my friends drove an hour away to see Avenged Sevenfold, Breaking Benjamin and Bullet for my Valentine. It's been a solid 12 years at least since those bands were at the height of their popularity, right? And they weren't even good then, just popular. I guess they'll always have a market, though. I think a lot of bands that were popular in the early 2000s have been doing high school nostalgia tours the last couple years for the 30+ year old millennial market. Or maybe that's how the cycle has always worked.
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That entire era of hard rock/radio rock is absolutely huge right now. It gets tossed into the classic rock mix and is very popular around here. Those bands are always the ones being promoted by local rock radio and whatnot.
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Feb 6, 2018 02:22
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Find some guys hanging drywall and you'll hear all these bands all day every day
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I wonder what the nu-metal version of Winery Dogs or Chickenfoot will be in 20 years.
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CheesyDog posted:Find some guys hanging drywall and you'll hear all these bands all day every day usually i hear norteno but ymmv
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The Muppets On PCP posted:pretty sure they're the remaining holdouts still buying cds 
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Trig Discipline posted:I will spend serious money on an acoustic or classical guitar, but I never have and never will throw down serious coin on an electric. Past the $500-ish mark on the used market, I have never found a high-end electric that I thought was worth the extra money. I generally agree, but a friend of mine had a Les Paul Classic Goldtop that was the nicest electric guitar I've ever played, by far. Amazing sound, silky-smooth playability. It made me feel like a way better guitarist the couple times I got to play it. I'd be willing to put down a big chunk of change for an electric, but only if I played it first and it really spoke to me.
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I think I found it. The good stupid NAMM video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfyNhfpLLZ4 (actually just posted for the first minute)
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"Music industry dumb so wat" Okay. 
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Fred Armisen's new netflix special is pretty much "Stupid Music poo poo" for about an entire hour. You guys should check it out. Edit: lol I'm watching it now and one of the random crowd shot people was J Mascis
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Spanish Manlove posted:Fred Armisen's new netflix special is pretty much "Stupid Music poo poo" for about an entire hour. You guys should check it out. Didn’t know this was a thing, I’ll have to watch. I’m finishing up Portlandia and it’s a goldmine of stupid music poo poo.
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Spanish Manlove posted:Just curious, are the current wave of budget amps as good as budget guitars? I've only tinkered around on a boss katana 1x12 for a few minutes and it sounded pretty decent but how does the head sound when hooked up to a decent cabinet? IE can you make a pretty drat effective travel rig for like $800 tops? I can't say about the katana but I'm told it's a decent one, with a lot of built in effects = versatile. I can say for sure about my rig - I have a Laney Cub with a few pedals. It cost 400$ in total. It sounds loving great. Anything you want out of a tube amp + a few essential pedals. Good enough for a pub gig, and good enough to feed into the PA for larger stuff. A modelling amp might not have the ~tubes~ but it'll have the versatility and it'll be cheaper than that. As I've said, I'm told the Katana is incredible for what it is - a 200$ amp.
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A vibrating dildo would make a unique sounding slide and all around interesting thing to apply to a guitar Tom Morello style. Especially with active pickups. To the dildo shop...
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