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Feb 6, 2018 13:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eylpRENSvow Greg Larsen explains Work for the Dole - good poo poo
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Feb 6, 2018 13:26
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Trying to imagine what Caleb's wife looks like. A sticky wicket
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Feb 6, 2018 13:29
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GoldStandardConure posted:WRONG! Pft, you and everyone
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Feb 6, 2018 13:35
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You Am I posted:Why did the fuckers wait till he got back in to finally air that story? People in this thread mentioned it a bunch during the by-election. Apparently his daughter had a public freakout over it. Why wasn't it touched by the media or by Labor?
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Feb 6, 2018 13:43
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question time is going to be utterly unbearable tomorrow
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Feb 6, 2018 13:43
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ewe2 posted:This is Australian journalism, why are you even asking that question at this stage? If the Guardian's tone was any more self righteous they'd disappear up their own rear end and back out their mouth in an eternal ouroboros loop. They can get hosed about taking the moral high ground is what I'm saying. At the least the Australian is plainly the money losing propaganda rag it looks like.
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tithin posted:This man fucks He has a huge Federal department, I hear.
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Feb 6, 2018 13:50
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the current politics live editor on the guardian seems pretty cool, but jesus christ katherine murphy is one of the worst political writers i’ve come across.
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Feb 6, 2018 13:53
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Brown Paper Bag posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eylpRENSvow Right on the money also, Work for the Dole is a nice idea in theory but anyone doing it isn't going to be given anything of substance to do and it honestly just wastes everybody's time.
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Feb 6, 2018 13:59
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Amethyst posted:People in this thread mentioned it a bunch during the by-election. Apparently his daughter had a public freakout over it. Why wasn't it touched by the media or by Labor? The trouble with moralising about politicians is that it's a nuclear option if you're in the MSM or make too much noise about it if you're in the ALP. Put simply, there would be massive revenge stories and it hurts everyone's electoral chances if you're a politician and even worse circulation if you're the MSM. Sure, it's a hot story at first but people usually get sick of this and get angry that it's the major political issue. Cue fake editorials about "the press's role" and crocodile tears about privacy. Hence the comfortable grey zone where well-bred journalists just "don't go there" and politicians can gently caress who they want as long as it's neither obvious nor actually criminal. gently caress what the public think, they can always be distracted by something else, right? In some cultures they're less puritan about these issues, they don't give a toss in France or Italy no matter how sleazy. It's just the Anglo-centric culture that treats personal immorality as hypocrisy. edit: and it's not as if his electorate gave a stuff either, I doubt more publicity of his affair would have essentially changed the result. ewe2 fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Feb 6, 2018 |
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Feb 6, 2018 14:00
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ewe2 posted:The trouble with moralising about politicians is that it's a nuclear option if you're in the MSM or make too much noise about it if you're in the ALP. Put simply, there would be massive revenge stories and it hurts everyone's electoral chances if you're a politician and even worse circulation if you're the MSM. Yeah, pretty much this. Plus, cynicism about politicians and their motives aside (I know, but bear with me), I do think there's a legitimate argument to be made about the right to a private life - I don't think it's necessarily the strongest argument, and there are definitely counter-arguments to it, but I don't think you can just handwave it away with "well when you become a politician you automatically give up your right to a private life". Also, if anyone thinks that any of the parties are free from infidelity, then just lol. There are people who are lovely in their personal lives in the Coalition, ALP, Greens, and every Party in between.
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Personally I say we moralise about the pollies that moralise back at us, and let the others have whatever consensual orgies they like.
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Testekill posted:Right on the money also, Work for the Dole is a nice idea in theory but anyone doing it isn't going to be given anything of substance to do and it honestly just wastes everybody's time. Hey now, apparently the majority of WFTD sites are unsafe and someone managed to die at one.
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Testekill posted:Right on the money also, Work for the Dole is a nice idea in theory but anyone doing it isn't going to be given anything of substance to do and it honestly just wastes everybody's time. Well yeah it's pointless if you assume the point is to give them work as opposed to the real reason it's there, being a punishment.
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Feb 6, 2018 14:49
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 they both have "apex" in the name
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Feb 6, 2018 15:19
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LOL if you're not proud scum.
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Inescapable Duck posted:LOL if you're not proud scum. ##vote Inescapable Duck
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Feb 6, 2018 20:17
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the daily telegraph accidentally does one good thing per year and they've already peaked with "bundle of joyce"
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Feb 6, 2018 20:46
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Pretty amazing to see that whole Joyce story was true
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hawaiian_robot posted:
Shane Warne no!
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Feb 6, 2018 21:16
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Something tells me this will just add to Joyce’s blokey character and his primary vote will go up This country is a garbage fire
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Feb 6, 2018 21:26
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Imagine if a Di Natale hosed a staffer and she got pregnant.
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Feb 6, 2018 21:28
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Imagine if there was a rape scandal in the Greens and a former party leader wrote a big letter mostly blaming the victim Oh wait
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JBP posted:Imagine if a Di Natale hosed a staffer and she got pregnant. The Greens actually claim to have principles so it would be rank hypocrisy. No one expects a member of the LNP to uphold the conservative values they try and ram down everyone else's throats so it's hardly news when one of them cheats on his wife and bones an employee.
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Endman posted:Imagine if there was a rape scandal in the Greens and a former party leader wrote a big letter mostly blaming the victim I'm trying to talk about things the media cares about.
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Feb 6, 2018 21:43
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BBJoey posted:the current politics live editor on the guardian seems pretty cool, but jesus christ katherine murphy is one of the worst political writers i’ve come across. Katherine Murphy seems to be blindsided by her constant stories about factions issues in Labor and somehow ignoring the fact the Coalition is ripping itself apart.
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Feb 6, 2018 21:44
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The guardian is a pseudo intellectual wet liberal wankfest gently caress anyone who writes or reads it
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Feb 6, 2018 22:12
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pro: greg jericho con: van evilelmo pro: first dog
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Birdstrike posted:pro: greg jericho con: you’re posts
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Solemn Sloth posted:The guardian is a pseudo intellectual wet liberal wankfest gently caress anyone who writes or reads it 
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You Am I posted:Katherine Murphy seems to be blindsided by her constant stories about factions issues in Labor and somehow ignoring the fact the Coalition is ripping itself apart. i think it’s fair to write about the idiotic internal civil war the alp is constantly fighting, but if you read her stories about turnbull particularly towards the end of last year it’s obvious she is blindly devoted to him as a leader. basically every word of her articles is about how if only the dang conservatives would get out of the way, malcolm with his genius intellect would lead australia into a golden age. i’m not stupid enough to think that journalism has to be objective and that it’s a moral failing if you have an opinion of the subject you’re writing about, but if you admire someone so much that you’re oblivious to their very obvious, regularly remarked upon failings maybe you should take a step back and consider. my sole interaction with her was when she was scolding the rabble for being interested in joyce’s private life last year. i asked her if she recalled an article she wrote about how people don’t trust journalism because it no longer speaks truth to power (https://meanjin.com.au/essays/truth-and-the-new-politics/). apparently she had forgot all about it 
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Solemn Sloth posted:The guardian is a pseudo intellectual wet liberal wankfest gently caress anyone who writes or reads it I read it because sadly most of the alternatives are either right wing poo poo, clickbait or you have to pay after reading 1 article. BBJoey posted:i think it’s fair to write about the idiotic internal civil war the alp is constantly fighting, but if you read her stories about turnbull particularly towards the end of last year it’s obvious she is blindly devoted to him as a leader. basically every word of her articles is about how if only the dang conservatives would get out of the way, malcolm with his genius intellect would lead australia into a golden age.
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i read the guardian because it’s one of the few news sites that doesn’t immediately crash the 20 year old version of internet explorer we have to use at work
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Caroline Overington at The Australian has reported Natalie Joyce has spoken: I am deeply saddened by the news that my husband has been having an affair and is now having a child with a former staff member. I understand that this affair has been going on for many months and started when she was a paid employe. This situation is devastating on many fronts. For my girls who are affected by the family breakdown and for me as a wife of 24 years, who placed my own career on hold to support Barnaby through his political life. Our family life has had to be shared during Barnaby’s political career and it was with trust that we let campaign and office staff into our homes and into our lives. Naturally we also feel deceived and hurt by the actions of Barnaby and the staff member involved. The situation for myself and the girls will be made worse by the fact that this will all be played out in public so at this time, I would ask that the girls and I are given some privacy and time to come to terms with the consequences and take steps to plan our future.”
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Feb 7, 2018 01:35
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He’s happy to poo poo all over gay couples and I’ll bet he voted in favour of retaining metadata so I’m not too worried about his privacy in this case.
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:He’s happy to poo poo all over gay couples and I’ll bet he voted in favour of retaining metadata so I’m not too worried about his privacy in this case. Not to mention the treatment of Gillard as PM, which Virginia Trioli brought up on News Breakfast. We heard about her partner, her "being barren", all this poo poo that wouldn't happen with a male pollie. Now a male pollie does something wrong on multiple levels (adultery, power imbalance between an MP and staffer, knocked her up and hid it) and it's all "well, there's a certain decorum to maintain about the New Zealand citizen who wants to say who can or can't marry".
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-07/mps-defend-joyces-right-to-privacy-after-partner-on-front-page/9403988quote:On Channel Seven's Sunrise program, Daily Telegraph journalist Sharri Markson defended running the story, saying the end of Mr Joyce's marriage had affected his approach to his work.
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quote:"I don't think there are any punters out there who are saying 'I wish I did not know this story' this morning," she said. Well it put me off my breakfast so.... He nutted inside her
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