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self unaware posted:why would someone leave the house to pretend any legislators in government give a gently caress about "protestors" good posts, keep it up
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Karl Barks posted:good posts, keep it up self unaware threadshits not because it is easy but because it is hard
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Karl Barks posted:good posts, keep it up he's not wrong about the (lack of) efficacy of limp-dick american protests in which participants think the point is sharing their opinions or whatever stupid liberal poo poo
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Wheeee posted:he's not wrong about the (lack of) efficacy of limp-dick american protests in which participants think the point is sharing their opinions or whatever stupid liberal poo poo You're gonna have to turn in your pussy hat with that negative attitude.
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Wheeee posted:he's not wrong about the (lack of) efficacy of limp-dick american protests in which participants think the point is sharing their opinions or whatever stupid liberal poo poo is limp-dick american protest a specific subset of protest or what are we talking here
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if there's no threat of force then nobody will care civil rights didnt happen because suddenly those in power felt bad and wanted to be nice
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you can always tell when someone does no activist work and just posts about being a communist or whatever online
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Karl Barks posted:you can always tell when someone does no activist work and just posts about being a communist or whatever online that's because "activist work" is limited to the bourgeoisie who have nothing better to do than go talk to state senators about capping payday loans at 300% apr when all you need to know is quote:Turns out the reason we can't get payday loan reform is that there are huge contributions from these loan agencies to the heads of the senate banking committee and financial committee and asking them nicely won't change that
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self unaware posted:that's because "activist work" is limited to the bourgeoisie who have nothing better to do than go talk to state senators about capping payday loans at 300% apr when all you need to know is so no, you haven't done activist work
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This is the only legitimate form of activism
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Karl Barks posted:so no, you haven't done activist work whatever you need to tell yourself to dismiss the truth
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self unaware posted:that's because "activist work" is limited to the bourgeoisie who have nothing better to do than go talk to state senators about capping payday loans at 300% apr when all you need to know is Ah yes, I am a member of the bourgeoisie now. I wish I knew that before I was struggling to pay rent. gently caress off. Obviously this isn't the only activism I do, yet even this is more impactful than threadshitting
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self unaware posted:whatever you need to tell yourself to dismiss the truth 
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The budget for this org is about 700k yearly. We could afford a lot of ar15s with that...
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https://twitter.com/ButNoPotato/status/960916298321547265
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:The budget for this org is about 700k yearly. We could afford a lot of ar15s with that... this but unironically essentially, no risk, no reward
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self unaware posted:this but unironically It's not ironic. I doubt many posting here disagree with full communism now.
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i'll never forget when congress passed all those accessibility laws in the 90s because people in wheelchairs held congress hostage with guns and bombs. beautiful and inspiring
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self unaware posted:whatever you need to tell yourself to dismiss the truth Karl Barks posted:so no, you haven't done activist work
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Good, serious read on the form & function of political violence in the Deep South civil rights movement. 
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GalacticAcid posted:Good, serious read on the form & function of political violence in the Deep South civil rights movement. no one is dismissing violent struggle itt
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wtf lol i didn't suggest that
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GalacticAcid posted:wtf lol i didn't suggest that in the context of the above conversation it felt that was what you were implying, my bad
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Karl Barks posted:i'll never forget when congress passed all those accessibility laws in the 90s because people in wheelchairs held congress hostage with guns and bombs. beautiful and inspiring because accessibility laws threaten the status quo you know full well that's a disingenuous argument
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Wheeee posted:because accessibility laws threaten the status quo for disabled people? yes if the bar is "smashes capitalism and create full communism now" i don't knwo what to tell you
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turns out protesting for wheelchair ramps isn't the same as protesting to reduce the exploitation of the poor and vulnerable by financial corporations
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self unaware posted:turns out protesting for wheelchair ramps isn't the same as protesting to reduce the exploitation of the poor and vulnerable by financial corporations self unaware self unaware posted:lol if you think peaceful protest brings about political change
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Allowing people with disabilities to participate in wage labour and bourgeois democracy is really not exactly the sort of political change they meant.
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self unaware posted:that's because "activist work" is limited to the bourgeoisie who have nothing better to do than go talk to state senators about capping payday loans at 300% apr when all you need to know is Some hilarious larping right here
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Please, please, we’re all actively harmful to the global proletariat just by existing in our day to day lives. Let’s not argue about who raised more money at the DSA bake sale.
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lol, just lol if your activism isn't dragging the bourgeoisie out of their upscale apartments and mansions straight to the guillotines
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'why bother doing anything if you haven't achieved full communism by tomorrow' is a message that will definitely energise people
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just got off the phone with a small town mayor's office who is excited to have a bunch of socialists change brake lights and tell people about police violence and racial profiling, since I got sent home from my wage job with dwindling hours after having paid 80% of my savings to keep my car working. looking forward to my place in the elite of the radical bourgeoisie
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Fighting for equality in society is a good in itself but if you're trying to empower the working class then you've got to examine what the end result of a particular movement will be and whether it'll actually create a basis for working class power or allow a marginalised group to occupy more of a space in the formal dynamics of capitalism, as exploited and exploiter. It's the difference between fighting for womans liberation or for more women CEOs. The latter may well come around as a result of the struggle for the former but it's really not the end goal.
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namesake posted:Fighting for equality in society is a good in itself but if you're trying to empower the working class then you've got to examine what the end result of a particular movement will be and whether it'll actually create a basis for working class power or allow a marginalised group to occupy more of a space in the formal dynamics of capitalism, as exploited and exploiter. okay we did that and decided it did create a basis for working class power. honestly tho, the problem with the left is too much action and not enough thought lol i forgot about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj_b3QOEFYU Karl Barks fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Feb 7, 2018 |
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the problem with the left is a failure to shape its rhetoric in a manner conducive to recruiting psychologically authoritarian followers as the right has so successfully done, as authoritarians are basically loving ants which will march in unquestioning lockstep to whoever holds their leash, which is really useful for getting poo poo done
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Wheeee posted:the problem with the left is a failure to shape its rhetoric in a manner conducive to recruiting psychologically authoritarian followers as the right has so successfully done, as authoritarians are basically loving ants which will march in unquestioning lockstep to whoever holds their leash, which is really useful for getting poo poo done stalin did nothing wrong, hth.
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Wheeee posted:the problem with the left is a failure to shape its rhetoric in a manner conducive to recruiting psychologically authoritarian followers as the right has so successfully done, as authoritarians are basically loving ants which will march in unquestioning lockstep to whoever holds their leash, which is really useful for getting poo poo done Authoritarian followers follow authoritarian leaders. If you cultivate a following of them without being of them yourself, someone is going to scoop them right out from under you.
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I remember being part of huge protests against the Iraq war in 2002-2003. They were worldwide and super huge. Bush invaded anyway.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I remember being part of huge protests against the Iraq war in 2002-2003. They were worldwide and super huge. and got re-elected
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