Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Slit is meant to be the parallel then the opposite of Nux in every way. Compare their deaths and motivations for dying, as an example.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Kramdar posted:

I don’t remember the touchdown dance.

Right after Sean Connery tells Kevin Costner he's the dog now.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

Basebf555 posted:

If you watch the movie again with Rictus' intelligence in mind, you'll see that he's borderline mentally disabled.

There's a reason why his car and clothing is covered in baby doll parts, most prominently the giant baby doll he wears like a WWE championship belt with 3 smaller doll heads underneath it, and has a doll head necklace as well.

I didnt catch that until my second or third viewing, and I didnt catch the doll parts on his car until I saw a video of the cars being made.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I really liked the Darren Aronofsky Noah movie, partially due to all the stuff included from the apocryphal texts like the fallen angels. The opening, with the big bang described in Genesis terms, was a little on the nose, but it set the tone of the movie well, and I like that the climax isn't due to any external force, just a nasty combination of Religious misinterpretation and cabin fever. It all comes down to "It's a girl! poo poo! Run..."

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


My subtle movie moment is that Fury Road is a perfect movie.

forest spirit
Apr 6, 2009

Frigate Hetman Sahaidachny
First to Fight Scuttle, First to Fall Sink


Krispy Wafer posted:

Right after Sean Connery tells Kevin Costner he's the dog now.

He doesn't tell Costner he's the dog now, he says he's the man now, dog.

Did you even see the movie

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Inzombiac posted:

My subtle movie moment is that Fury Road is a perfect movie.
The only complaint I have about Fury Road is that Miss Giddy and the Organic Mechanic just disappear from the movie at some point. Then again, I barely noticed it until I had it pointed out to me. Sorry.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



My Lovely Horse posted:

The only complaint I have about Fury Road is that Miss Giddy and the Organic Mechanic just disappear from the movie at some point. Then again, I barely noticed it until I had it pointed out to me. Sorry.

To be sure, the cut scenes with their story conclusions aren't well paced.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Smiling Jack posted:

Slit is meant to be the parallel then the opposite of Nux in every way. Compare their deaths and motivations for dying, as an example.

I've read elsewhere that Slit and Nux are basically set up as a Goofus and Gallant type duo, demonstrating that even within Immortan Joe's hosed up society there's good and bad people. Slit is resentful and insults the fallen, Nux is actually friendly even with the blood-bag who's trying to kill him.


Samovar posted:

To be sure, the cut scenes with their story conclusions aren't well paced.

Huh, I'll have to see those. I figured most of the extended cast was mangled to bits in the huge implied pile-up in the canyon at the end.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Basebf555 posted:

Nah, he's shouting to the other warboys who are driving alongside to witness him. One of them is a huge dick and when the guy is already dead he yells "mediocre!"

Oh yeah I saw that, I just meant as a separate scenario. Sorry for the confusion.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Watched the MEDIOCRE scene again and I still wouldn't know it was Slit if it hadn't been mentioned.

I like how each warlord's tactics seem indicative of their specialty. Gun Farm shoots a lot of bullets, Gas Town sprays flame everywhere. Water World doesn't necessarily use water, but they also don't shoot a lot of guns or spray flame everywhere since they'd have to trade for those items.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I think the War Boys are meant to be Immortan Joe's gimmick, dozens of expendable children raised into a culture where they're expected to die in his service and see it as the greatest honour. There seems to be kind of a theme of him perverting and enslaving life and nature, with his harem of overweight sex slaves and literal milking cows in a world where everyone is starving and lucky to get the bare minimum, and so on.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Immortan Joe has resources, the water and green stuff, to support a population where he can get his warboys.

Don't think bullet town and gas town can't build similar manpower by feeding people gun powder, brass, lead and gas.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

MariusLecter posted:

Immortan Joe has resources, the water and green stuff, to support a population where he can get his warboys.

Don't think bullet town and gas town can't build similar manpower by feeding people gun powder, brass, lead and gas.

The Gun Town dental plan is of a superior caliber though.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Inescapable Duck posted:

I think the War Boys are meant to be Immortan Joe's gimmick, dozens of expendable children raised into a culture where they're expected to die in his service and see it as the greatest honour. There seems to be kind of a theme of him perverting and enslaving life and nature, with his harem of overweight sex slaves and literal milking cows in a world where everyone is starving and lucky to get the bare minimum, and so on.

War Boys all have radiation related illnesses that are slowly killing them(mostly cancer it seems), Joe uses that and gives them something they can't get elsewhere, an opportunity to die in a meaningful way instead of just another victim of the wasteland.

Krispy Wafer posted:

Watched the MEDIOCRE scene again and I still wouldn't know it was Slit if it hadn't been mentioned.

When the movie came out on blu ray I probably watched it once a week for like 8 weeks. When you see the movie that many times you can recognize the sound of Slit's voice pretty easily.

Basebf555 has a new favorite as of 17:23 on Feb 8, 2018

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Krispy Wafer posted:

The Gun Town dental plan is of a superior caliber though.

not empty quoting

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Don Gato posted:

There's a reason why his car and clothing is covered in baby doll parts, most prominently the giant baby doll he wears like a WWE championship belt with 3 smaller doll heads underneath it, and has a doll head necklace as well.

I didnt catch that until my second or third viewing, and I didnt catch the doll parts on his car until I saw a video of the cars being made.

Look at his face. He's got the mind of a child.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
At first I thought all the heads on his necklace were stillborn or miscarried brothers and sisters. But no, they're dolls.

Still didn't see him as mentally disabled, although I get it now. It's not like there were a whole lot of smart people around Joe.

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan

Krispy Wafer posted:

At first I thought all the heads on his necklace were stillborn or miscarried brothers and sisters. But no, they're dolls.

Still didn't see him as mentally disabled, although I get it now. It's not like there were a whole lot of smart people around Joe.

I thought the two sons were an entirely intentional call-back to Master / Blaster. I just automatically assigned them the same attributes: small and smart; big and dumb. I expected a whistle at some point.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Basebf555 posted:

War Boys all have radiation related illnesses that are slowly killing them(mostly cancer it seems), Joe uses that and gives them something they can't get elsewhere, an opportunity to die in a meaningful way instead of just another victim of the wasteland.
Leukemia! Some lymphoma symptoms too, but they match up really well with leukemia. Both have a genetic component too, though I'm not sure how strong it is.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Krispy Wafer posted:

Watched the MEDIOCRE scene again and I still wouldn't know it was Slit if it hadn't been mentioned.

I like how each warlord's tactics seem indicative of their specialty. Gun Farm shoots a lot of bullets, Gas Town sprays flame everywhere. Water World doesn't necessarily use water, but they also don't shoot a lot of guns or spray flame everywhere since they'd have to trade for those items.

The devolved functions of each location are also good indicators of how surprisingly strategic Joe is. By design none of them can operate independently, they all rely on each other for vital resources. So an uprising is pretty unlikely. But if it did happen, The Citadel controls the most time-critical resource of all, water, and so could easily starve the other two into submission in the event of a protracted disagreement. It's an extremely good system for a man that wants to stay in power.

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Inescapable Duck posted:

I think the War Boys are meant to be Immortan Joe's gimmick, dozens of expendable children raised into a culture where they're expected to die in his service and see it as the greatest honour. There seems to be kind of a theme of him perverting and enslaving life and nature, with his harem of overweight sex slaves and literal milking cows in a world where everyone is starving and lucky to get the bare minimum, and so on.

immortan joe's society is a metaphor for capitalism

edit: the entire plot of fury road is actually about revolution and anarcha-feminism

Kanine has a new favorite as of 01:10 on Feb 9, 2018

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

jabby posted:

The devolved functions of each location are also good indicators of how surprisingly strategic Joe is. By design none of them can operate independently, they all rely on each other for vital resources. So an uprising is pretty unlikely. But if it did happen, The Citadel controls the most time-critical resource of all, water, and so could easily starve the other two into submission in the event of a protracted disagreement. It's an extremely good system for a man that wants to stay in power.

I wonder how much heavy ordnance Bullet Farm has in their armory - if they only had the small arms on display in the movie, they'd never crack The Citadel.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Nux's witness me goes from a loud boast to a soft supplication and that is a delightful touch

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.
I just watched Fury Road the other day and man, what a perfect movie. One of the coolest action movies I've ever seen, and so much more than that. I really need to check out the earlier movies but I've heard that I'll probably feel let down by them as Fury Road is a better version of them

exquisite tea posted:

The whole message behind Taxi Driver's ending is that Travis hasn't changed at all and the same society that alienated and marginalized him now adores him because he shot a couple dudes from the same walk of life as himself instead of a senator, as he was originally planning to do. It's not a happy ending at all, Travis is still as paranoid and lonely as ever, and you're supposed to feel disgusted by the tonal shift. "It was all a dream" in addition to just being a lameass conclusion to any piece of media in general, just completely misses the point.

Yeah it's pretty horrifying to realize that if any number of tiny things had happened differently, it would have resulted in such a totally different ending - instead of a "happy ending" where he's a hero for killing a bad guy and saving a girl in distress, he would have been a cold blooded killer who assassinated a popular senator. he's still the same person, he's not different or better because he just happened to do the heroic thing, it was his first instinct to assassinate the senator and he only bailed out of self preservation when he saw he was going to get caught. His obsession with Jody Foster's character was huge but "saving" her was still his second choice, his backup plan after he realized he wasn't going to get to kill the senator. I've never understood how people would think this was a happy ending, and I really don't get where "it was a dream" comes from at all.

Gatekeeper has a new favorite as of 05:34 on Feb 9, 2018

Baba Yaga Fanboy
May 18, 2011

Just wanted to say that, thanks to this thread, I finally sat down to rewatch Fury Road. Even on a rewatch, that flick is :perfect:

Mister Nobody
Feb 17, 2011

Memento posted:

I wonder how much heavy ordnance Bullet Farm has in their armory - if they only had the small arms on display in the movie, they'd never crack The Citadel.

Watching it again, and the Bullet Farm seems to have RPGs at the very least.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Memento posted:

I wonder how much heavy ordnance Bullet Farm has in their armory - if they only had the small arms on display in the movie, they'd never crack The Citadel.

I don't think they really have an armory. They literally farm the bullets by tilling the earth over an old army stockpile to dredge up the ammunition.

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Arcsquad12 posted:

I don't think they really have an armory. They literally farm the bullets by tilling the earth over an old army stockpile to dredge up the ammunition.

when i was watching i assumed they were at least making gunpowder/mining metal to reload/make bullets tho

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
I think Arcsquad12 is taking the piss. According to a synopsis of one of the comics, it was an old lead mine that was converted into an arms factory.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Gatekeeper posted:

I just watched Fury Road the other day and man, what a perfect movie. One of the coolest action movies I've ever seen, and so much more than that. I really need to check out the earlier movies but I've heard that I'll probably feel let down by them as Fury Road is a better version of them


Yeah it's pretty horrifying to realize that if any number of tiny things had happened differently, it would have resulted in such a totally different ending - instead of a "happy ending" where he's a hero for killing a bad guy and saving a girl in distress, he would have been a cold blooded killer who assassinated a popular senator. he's still the same person, he's not different or better because he just happened to do the heroic thing, it was his first instinct to assassinate the senator and he only bailed out of self preservation when he saw he was going to get caught. His obsession with Jody Foster's character was huge but "saving" her was still his second choice, his backup plan after he realized he wasn't going to get to kill the senator. I've never understood how people would think this was a happy ending, and I really don't get where "it was a dream" comes from at all.

And if he weren't the hero then that guy wouldn't have shot Reagan and Brady giving us the Brady bill...

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Gatekeeper posted:

I just watched Fury Road the other day and man, what a perfect movie. One of the coolest action movies I've ever seen, and so much more than that. I really need to check out the earlier movies but I've heard that I'll probably feel let down by them as Fury Road is a better version of them
They're good, but in a different way, and please watch them in order and Beyond Thunderdome as unspoiled as possible :allears:

Pneub
Mar 12, 2007

I'M THE DEVIL, AND I WILL WASH OVER THE EARTH AND THE SEAS WILL RUN RED WITH THE BLOOD OF ALL THE SINNERS

I AM REBORN
Nothing against the fury road chat, but Ive been scrolling straigt past it because the movie's better when none of this poo poo makes any sense.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
The wasteland communities are pretty advanced for post-apocalyptic societies so I think Bullet Farm is actually making their own ordiance. There's definitely scarcity though. Very few of The Citadel's people have anything better than a shotgun and I don't recall anyone from Gas Town with a firearm except for the People Eater's personal protection - although that was a pretty good sub-machine gun. And why would you want a gun when you can just spit fire all day long.

The 3 cities are pretty well balanced. No one has enough ammo to beat the Bullet Farm, no one has enough fuel to outlast Gas Town, and everyone needs water.

EDIT: do they ever call Joe's wives by their names? Is Cheedo the Fragile ever actually said in the movie?

Krispy Wafer has a new favorite as of 13:32 on Feb 9, 2018

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Joe definitely calls Angharad by name once and maybe someone names Toast but I think that's it.
e: actually they may call after Cheedo when she tries to run back.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Memento posted:

I wonder how much heavy ordnance Bullet Farm has in their armory - if they only had the small arms on display in the movie, they'd never crack The Citadel.

If they had RPGs or even heavy caliber guns the war rig wouldn't have lasted five minutes. It seems like their focus is purely on small arms.

If anything Joe's War Boys are the explosive specialists, although it seems limited to those grenade-on-a-stick things they have.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

jabby posted:

If they had RPGs or even heavy caliber guns the war rig wouldn't have lasted five minutes. It seems like their focus is purely on small arms.

If anything Joe's War Boys are the explosive specialists, although it seems limited to those grenade-on-a-stick things they have.

Well, for a lot of the movie they're trying to not damage Joe's wives and keeping fire/explosives to a minimum. I do agree that, similar to present day, small arms are a lot easier to get your hands on than a Ma Deuce or something.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Where did Max get those mines he used to slow them down in the swamp? Is that something Furiosa would have brought?

Or maybe those were the business ends of exploding spears? Which are the coolest weapons in Fury Road.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Krispy Wafer posted:

Where did Max get those mines he used to slow them down in the swamp? Is that something Furiosa would have brought?

Or maybe those were the business ends of exploding spears? Which are the coolest weapons in Fury Road.

The warboys had all kinds of goodies on the tanker, I'd guess.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

MariusLecter posted:

The warboys had all kinds of goodies on the tanker, I'd guess.

He comes back that one time with a big duffel bag full of weapons so I'd assume they were in there.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply