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nine-gear crow posted:Homestuck is merely the visible accretion disk of a black hole from which nothing emerges, except maybe Undertale. funnily enough, it literally ends with a black hole
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I suppose that yes, that is about as funny as anything Homestuck-related gets
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Speaking of story based comics, Guilded Age is in its final two chapters. It is not the best fantasy comic I've read, but it has kept my attention long enough and as long as it doesn't fall flat on its face in the next month or two it will have completed its race.
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Feb 8, 2018 21:59
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nine-gear crow posted:Homestuck is merely the visible accretion disk of a black hole from which nothing emerges, except maybe Undertale. Also Kill Six Billion Demons. And maybe one or two other things but those are the big ones.
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Feb 8, 2018 22:06
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World Famous W posted:Speaking of story based comics, Guilded Age is in its final two chapters. It is not the best fantasy comic I've read, but it has kept my attention long enough and as long as it doesn't fall flat on its face in the next month or two it will have completed its race. Ah yes, that's doing well. Guilded Age is a story comic that's actually managed to the pacing problems mentioned before - it has its destination and it's been heading there the whole time.
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Feb 8, 2018 22:27
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I'd like Guilded Age a lot better if it was the story of Jay Guatsby, troubled outsider newly stumbled into a decadent world of big-titty art deco videogame elves
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Feb 8, 2018 22:42
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Roland Jones posted:Also Kill Six Billion Demons. And maybe one or two other things but those are the big ones.
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Feb 8, 2018 23:01
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true leftist posted:k6bd is such a step up in quality for webcomics that it honestly frightens me a bit I'm hoping that it turns out to be like how modern athletes are ridiculously advanced compared to those of a century ago thanks to modern training methods and medicine, and that the cartoonists of the future will have insanely resilient wrist muscles and powerful scheduling techniques.
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Feb 8, 2018 23:08
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anyway i don't have chooks anymore because i moved into civilisation and rejoined society (they all went to good homes in intact family units) but here are my two happily married quail, moon unit and felafel, having a romantic dust bath together. i can only have two because moon unit (the speckly one) is a jealous wife and can't stand any other quail being near her husband, she pecks and buzzes at them until they go away - by which i mean they fly over the fence into backyard of the meth lab next door, which i've had to break into multiple times now  bonus flatbird 
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Feb 8, 2018 23:09
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Oh, Ava's Demon is updating again! If you can get through the server errors.
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Feb 8, 2018 23:36
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nowadays because when i hit the submit button i have no idea if i'll be met by "you just made a post! on the internet!!!" or "you've been banned!"; it makes the act of posting very exciting for me, in an emotional sense and also sexually, though my capacity for sexual arousal is limited due to peculiarities of my form
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Feb 9, 2018 00:12
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i've been banned midpost three times now, and those three posts actually sucked and it's good that they were lost forever, so who's to say there's not some cosmic force in play?
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Feb 9, 2018 00:16
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Miss, this is a drive thru...
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Feb 9, 2018 00:23
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Moon Unit is an awesome bird name.
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Feb 9, 2018 00:26
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I seem to recall Snarlbear being enjoyed by the thread. It ended last May, and she's just now doing a Kickstarter for the complete comic. Almost halfway there, with 26 days to go.
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Feb 9, 2018 02:12
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i like the elongated chicken on the ground.
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Feb 9, 2018 03:05
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Serious question: How is The Draw Play not in the Goon made comic list? It's done by Febreeze. It's a US Football comic, focusing on the NFL and all the silliness involved.
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Feb 9, 2018 05:08
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true leftist posted:i've been banned midpost three times now, and those three posts actually sucked and it's good that they were lost forever, so who's to say there's not some cosmic force in play?
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Feb 9, 2018 05:28
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I was checking my old Feedly and saw that it still had Astronaut Elementary in it. Congrats on the author for getting it turned into a graphic novel series within the past three-to-seven years!
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PMush Perfect posted:Well that'll teach you to make bad shitposts This you say, to the Don Draper of shitposting
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iospace posted:Serious question: I would imagine because whoever wrote the list hadn't heard of it.
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Cat Mattress posted:So, I just read "Seeds: a Mini Story". It is so mini that it has over 200 pages and a video. It also went nowhere, going to poo poo once the protags finally get to hell. It also has an epilogue that's entirely unrelated to the characters and the events of the story. And, of course, it's not finished. I saw Seeds more like some kind of big intro to the entire thing, I started with that one and then brute-forced my way by going date to date. Some stuff was neat, like the video games or the love story in text, some stuff was seriously surreal, like abstract art turned into a webcomic. Overall, I liked the parts which were cosmic horror the best. Seeds is mostly middle of the road compared to that, only standing out because of the bizarre art style. Edit: Seriously, some parts are so strange and out there, they've made me think the author may have read one too many horror books. And also that she completely wastes her talent doing webcomics.
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FunkyAl posted:This you say, to the Don Draper of shitposting
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Samuringa posted:This is why I prefer reading Gag-a-Day webcomics instead. It's not that they're bad, but Story Based Webcomics move at a glacial pace. At any point Kazerad will stop his comic for three years to work on a flash game. The danger of that happening keeps you coming back! It's science! Ask anyone who was into homestuck.  iospace posted:Serious question: This is a cute comic.
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Samuringa posted:This is why I prefer reading Gag-a-Day webcomics instead. It's not that they're bad, but Story Based Webcomics move at a glacial pace. I honestly wonder why so many of these webcomics (that is to say, the heavily plot-oriented ones) stick to M-W-F instead of doing the, y'know, actual comic thing of putting out a bi-weekly/monthly issue. I know why some series do it (to keep reader interest piqued over a longer period or because it gives them more time to draw more impressive scenes) but I feel like a lot of these series pacing issues could be solved by releasing whole chapters at once instead of spreading them out over such a long period.
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Feb 9, 2018 23:35
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what keeps reader retention higher, updates once a month or thrice weekly? which gives more ad revenue?
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keep in mind the average self-employed webcomic artist is kind of scraping by
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Tollymain posted:what keeps reader retention higher, updates once a month or thrice weekly? which gives more ad revenue? I forgot about ad revenue, you're probably right about that. I still think that kind of format could keep a high reader retention if enough people are interested in it but they would probably have to find some other way to generate revenue. I guess Paetron could be an option but that kind of already assumes you're an established series that people will pay to support, and that's not getting into taxes and poo poo. I don;t know, I just feel like there should be a better way to handle this that doesn't involve drawing things out for so long. 
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I can't speak for other webcomic creators but I graduated from art school with a comic art degree (note: I do not necessarily recommend this) and proceeded to do gently caress-all with it, opting to actually make money with an IT job instead. All the same I was feeling down on myself for not doing any art and yet when I tried to really commit to doing the comic story I wanted to do, I kept burning out due to the workload being kind of unmanageable with a full time job and just feeling like too much to do in general. At this point I was thinking I'd put together a book or series of issues, which obviously just wasn't working. I don't know when I got the idea but doing it as a webcomic meant that 1) a schedule to stick to that's actually possible with a day job, 2) burning out way less frequently due to the work being spread out over time and 3) getting that little endorphin rush from sharing my work with the world, which is satisfying but also keeps me motivated to continue working. I mostly think the balance-with-daily-life thing is the most significant factor. poo poo is a lot of work, so being able to do it a bit at a time is probably what makes doing a comic possible for a lot of people.
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Tollymain posted:what keeps reader retention higher, updates once a month or thrice weekly? which gives more ad revenue? In my experience I retain information/am much more interested in a comic (or anything else) when it's presented in an issue or "text" format as opposed to a constantly updating one, the larger problem is that social (and broadcast) media trains us not to retain anything and just keep focus on whatever is being presented exactly now, Right Now, scroll on to the next post already you're done reading this one keep looking at the stream don't stop the stream don't question it just eat it dummy eat it down don't think about it, and since that's the predominant form by which the internet generates revenue people latch onto the business model whether or not it helps them or their product in the long term. MechanicalTomPetty posted:I forgot about ad revenue, you're probably right about that. I still think that kind of format could keep a high reader retention if enough people are interested in it but they would probably have to find some other way to generate revenue. I guess Paetron could be an option but that kind of already assumes you're an established series that people will pay to support, and that's not getting into taxes and poo poo.
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FunkyAl posted:In my experience I retain information/am much more interested in a comic (or anything else) when it's presented in an issue or "text" format as opposed to a constantly updating one, the larger problem is that social (and broadcast) media trains us not to retain anything and just keep focus on whatever is being presented exactly now, Right Now, scroll on to the next post already you're done reading this one keep looking at the stream don't stop the stream don't question it just eat it dummy eat it down don't think about it, and since that's the predominant form by which the internet generates revenue people latch onto the business model whether or not it helps them or their product in the long term.
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also i hadn't heard of floraverse so thanks for discussing it, the art is amazing so i'm checking it out even if the story's not there and the creator is a lunatic ?? (tbh this is a positive, if anything)
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Feb 10, 2018 01:07
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Readers will accept long update cycles if they're invested. Look at Lackadaisy, or incomprehensibly, Dresden Codak.
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Most of the ones that get away with that are the ones that are already at the high end of production values, though. Paranatural (chapter five) might be able to work that way, but Paranatural (chapter one) probably wouldn't have made it long enough to develop to where it is now.
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Rand Brittain posted:Paranatural (chapter five) I still cannot get over the fact that that chapter has been going on for four years now. Holy poo poo. And I though Chapter 4 of Paranatural dragged on for too long...
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Max moved to (I forget the name of the town because it's been a decade) two days ago. The relationship between Isaac, Isabel and Ed has undergone way more than two days of evolution, but I can kinda accept that because they're middle-schoolers. Lots of other comics, ostensibly featuring adults, have the same problem where you can tell, even just reading through a bunch of finished pages, that the story developed over a way longer period than its characters and world supposedly experienced. People who two hours ago were reluctant associates are now die-hard teammates because the last hour felt like a year, for some reason. Every location seems to become the entire world remarkably quickly. A fact that is a new mind-blowing revelation becomes a commonly-understood part of the world in a weirdly short amount of time. Most recently I noticed this reading through A Better Place and Demon's Mirror, but I feel like it's pretty widespread. (I want to point fingers at Ava's Demon, but supposedly the author wrote all of it ahead of time, and I'm not certain enough to confidently call bullshit on that.) Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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Typical Pubbie posted:Readers will accept long update cycles if they're invested. Look at Lackadaisy, or incomprehensibly, Dresden Codak. I'm not sure how big Lackadaisy's readership actually is but I'm sure it'd be significantly bigger if most folks didn't forget it exists between updates
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Platinum Grit has the update schedule of releasing whole chapters at once. Its why I stopped reading it. I never knew if it was ever going to update again and got tired of waiting and then forgetting who everyone was
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