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TNG is great, way better than DS9
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corn in the bible posted:TNG is great, way better than DS9 whoah whoah WHOAH lets not go saying poo poo we can't take back bud
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Feb 8, 2018 13:04
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TOS > DS9 > TNG > VOY > ENT STD doesnt even rank
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numberoneposter posted:TOS > DS9 > TNG > Orville > VOY > ENT
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Feb 8, 2018 14:58
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Is TOS really worth it? I love the movies, even III, but it just felt too dated and slow. Does it draw you in slowly or is it just, well, 1960s.
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Feb 8, 2018 17:37
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barbecue at the folks posted:Is TOS really worth it? I love the movies, even III, but it just felt too dated and slow. Does it draw you in slowly or is it just, well, 1960s. It's hit or miss. The first two seasons are solid. The third season really went down hill. There are handful of decent episodes but the writing really sucked. "The Enterprise Incident" is really good but nothing else stands out worth watching.
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TOS is entertaining if you can appreciate camp and spectacle for it's own sake. If you're into serious Star Trek, then you easily do without.
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People who are old enough to have seen them way before TNG was broadcast take TOS more seriously than those who found other Star Trek series first.
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Feb 8, 2018 17:47
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Automatic Slim posted:People who are old enough to have seen them way before TNG was broadcast take TOS more seriously than those who found other Star Trek series first. I would have to agree with this and am in the latter category myself. It took a long time to warm up to TOS.
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corn in the bible posted:TNG is great, way better than DS9 mods ban this sick filth
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DS9 is the only truly good trek. TNG is 100% nostalgia and TOS gets way too much credit for it's camp. Voyager is better than TNG but still garbage.
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I started with TNG and I still think TOS is amazing, it's like theater almost
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I think the only real difference between VOY and TNG is that TNG would occasionally encounter actual interstellar phenomenon whereas VOY was fluidic space and coffee nebulas from start to finish.
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Feb 8, 2018 17:55
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Voyager has no excuse to be the way it was since it didn't start in 1987 and made no real effort to stretch itself like DS9 did in the 90s
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Feb 8, 2018 17:56
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Odd that both VOY and BSG both had unsatisfying endings. BSG took the premise that VOY should've stuck with and ran with it only to fumble at the end. VOY fumbled its endings on a weekly basis.
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Tricky D posted:I think the only real difference between VOY and TNG is that TNG would occasionally encounter actual interstellar phenomenon whereas VOY was fluidic space and coffee nebulas from start to finish. This is madness. TNG has worf and barclay, while voyager has harry and neelix
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whneever ur reminiscing about star trek and the rose tinted glasses start to descend from the sky and u begin to think maybe voyager wasnt so bad, just remember: neelix.
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corn in the bible posted:This is madness. TNG has worf and barclay, while voyager has harry and neelix Voyager has barclay too. :sadface:
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Smythe posted:whneever ur reminiscing about star trek and the rose tinted glasses start to descend from the sky and u begin to think maybe voyager wasnt so bad, just remember: neelix. numberoneposter posted:TOP TEN STAR TREK: VOYAGER MAIN CHARACTERS
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Tuvok isn't a character; he's a prop that gets dusted off for Neelix episodes.
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The one where he got stranded on that planet with tank girl was good
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numberoneposter posted:ummm Neelix ranks second place in best voyager main character according to the list this list is wrong
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Smythe posted:this list is wrong 
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Tricky D posted:Last night I saw Equinox for the first time since the original run and it's probably the most insane episode of Trek possible. Janeway works herself into such a sanctimonious rage over the other captain betraying the ideals of the federation, or whatever, that she nearly kills a junior officer in interrogation. We get it. Captain Ransom is hosed up for murdering the antimatter aliens, but she goes full Ahab after knowing the dude for a day. The most bizaarre part is that her beef is not necessarily that aliens are getting burned for fuel, but that Ransom betrayed the ideals of the federation. It's surreal. I don't even remember the interrogation thing so I hit up amazon prime to check it out. The customer rating is 4.7 with 831 reviews.  (This is only for season 5 but they're all p much the same. In fact all of the treks are.)There are 10 one star reviews, and FIVE of them have nothing to do with the actual show. (Technical probs, shipping issues, whatever.) Jesus loving christ. (Seven two-star reviews and only two are technical probs.)
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Hipster_Doofus posted:I don't even remember the interrogation thing so I hit up amazon prime to check it out. The customer rating is 4.7 with 831 reviews. I left out the part where Chakotay rushes in a saves the dude at the last minute which pisses Janeway right off. Later, when shes laying it out how they are going to hunt those fuckers to the ends of the galaxy and Chakotay tells her that he'll go along with her plan, but he doesn't feel good about it. She immediately fires him as XO. He didn't threaten to mutiny (which would have been justified at that point IMO) or disobey orders, Chakotay just tried to tell her that what they are doing might be a little hosed up and that they should probably concentrate on going home instead. The Equinox was trying to get back to the federation too, so she could have just sent a be-on-the-lookout through subspace or whatever and let starfleet deal with him.
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barbecue at the folks posted:Is TOS really worth it? I love the movies, even III, but it just felt too dated and slow. Does it draw you in slowly or is it just, well, 1960s.
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Tricky D posted:I left out the part where Chakotay rushes in a saves the dude at the last minute which pisses Janeway right off. Later, when shes laying it out how they are going to hunt those fuckers to the ends of the galaxy and Chakotay tells her that he'll go along with her plan, but he doesn't feel good about it. She immediately fires him as XO. He didn't threaten to mutiny (which would have been justified at that point IMO) or disobey orders, Chakotay just tried to tell her that what they are doing might be a little hosed up and that they should probably concentrate on going home instead. The Equinox was trying to get back to the federation too, so she could have just sent a be-on-the-lookout through subspace or whatever and let starfleet deal with him. They've turned their backs on ~Federation Values~ so we must immediately do away with due process, the chain of command and any protections against torture and summary executions. Yeah, that's peak Janeway.
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Ugh the (what I term) "Mental Health" Voyager episodes are the worst. Oh no my brain is tormenting me and I can't trust my memories to construct reality! Again! There seem to be more of them than the Miles Must Suffer episodes of DS9
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hey remember that time be'lanna was depressed because all her friends back home got massacred and she solved her suicidal impulses by going on a dangerous mission and finally eating pancakes
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Tighclops posted:hey remember that time be'lanna was depressed because all her friends back home got massacred and she solved her suicidal impulses by going on a dangerous mission and finally eating pancakes Chakotay was also really broken up about that as I recall. His performance on duty started to suffer and you could tell sometimes that he was just phoning of in.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Man, you know what was good Sci-Fi?
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papa_november posted:Red Dwarf, in it's prime, was so much better at doing Star Trek than Star Trek it was mindblowing. Patrick Stewart even came drat close to admitting this in an interview. Red Dwarf eps are self-contained enough to just watch at random, right? If so, could someone point me to a stellar (lol) example of this?
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for some reason i just cannot get into red dwarf, at all and this coming from a guy who managed to sit through all four seasons of loving Blake's 7, at that Johnny Aztec posted:We're talking about the weird lumpy grey space bug type Klingons, right? they're space orcs. i challenge you to prove otherwise Tighclops posted:One could argue that things like Nemesis are worse because they took a steaming poo poo all over established characters that people already liked i seriously cannot agree with you, Nemesis is aggressively stupid at a level even beyond that of Discovery
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:for some reason i just cannot get into red dwarf, at all If they are space orcs, then they are lovely, boring , space orcs. Where’s all the dakta? Where’s all the WAAUGH?!
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These are glum dork orcs not grim dark orcs.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i seriously cannot agree with you, Nemesis is aggressively stupid at a level even beyond that of Discovery Seriously, Tigh. Your raging, primal hate-on for disco is clouding your judgment.
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They are both in the same boat of lovely post-9/11 Trek that spends way too much time 'doing what is necessary'. While Nemesis just doesn't care, STD is schizophrenic.
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Tricky D posted:Chakotay was also really broken up about that as I recall. His performance on duty started to suffer and you could tell sometimes that he was just phoning of in. Art imitating life. The producers must have thought Beltran was going full method acting during that ep.
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