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Oh, brilliant. We have a new Doctor! And she's falling to her death! Oh no! Presumably, the Doctor survives the fall (because it would be very stupid to have a regeneration last about 90 seconds of life) to go on adventures with three companions, all of which are certainly people named Graham, Ryan, and Yasmin. Doctor Who returns in...the Autumn? That's kind of a ways away. There's not much going on right now with regards to Doctor Who-related TV as the show is currently being filmed, and there's no spin-off or animated reconstruction announced for 2018. It's a hiatus thread, alright! So...yeah. The problem with the time between 'Doctor regenerates' and 'new Doctor has a show' is that there is nothing involving the new Doctor in non-TV material. No comics, no books, no nothing. You can hear all the old Doctors do radio dramas, but we'll get to that later. For now, though, we'll discuss how writer x is terrible and ruined Doctor Who forever, only for writer y to write a Big Finish script that redeems Doctor Who. Oh, and don't ask about how the thread got its subtitle. The previous thread can be found here. Now for the formalities. NO SPOILERS By edict of the moderators, this is a SPOILER-FREE ZONE. Other than backstage stuff (hiring people), DO NOT POST SPOILERS. AT ALL. Even if the Washington Post reveals video of Donald Trump handing a big stack of government secrets to Vladimir Putin and one of the papers is labeled 'Martha Jones is a Rutan', DON'T POST IT HERE. If you must post about spoilers, go to the spoiler thread. Episode titles can be spoiler-y, so use discretion when discussing episodes yet to air. For example, 'Hide' doesn't spoil anything, but 'OH poo poo IT'S THE DALEKS' does. WHERE DO I START? If you want to start with the revival, you should start with The Pilot. This doesn't mean to disregard the nine series from 2005-2016, but it's a good getting-on point. If you want to watch the original series, there are plenty of places to start. You COULD start with An Unearthly Child and watch everything in chronological order. You could also watch individual serials of all the Doctors and determine which you like the best. Keep in mind, don't shotgun a whole Hartnell or Troughton in one go, or else you'll get complacent. Those 60's episodes are meant to be seen one at a time, and if you only just rented the DVD, wait a few hours between episodes. The most popular serials for the original series you can jump into are: First Doctor: An Unearthly Child, The Aztecs Second Doctor: The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World Third Doctor: Spearhead from Space, Carnival of Monsters Fourth Doctor: Pyramids of Mars, The Robots of Death Fifth Doctor: Kinda, Frontios Sixth Doctor: Vengeance on Varos, Revelation of the Daleks Seventh Doctor: Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks WHERE CAN I WATCH DOCTOR WHO? If you're an American, you're in luck! You can watch the original run of Doctor Who both on TV (Retro TV and some PBS stations) and online (via BritBox*)! Canadians get BritBox, too. If you're not North American scum, I'm sorry but you'll have to buy or rent the episodes on DVD. For the current run: ON TELEVISION UK - BBC One (first run), Watch USA - BBC America (first run), most PBS stations Canada - CTV Sci-Fi Australia - ABC1 (first run), ABC ME, Syfy STREAMING UK - Netflix USA - Amazon Video Canada - CraveTV Australia - Netflix & Stan *Day of the Daleks, Planet of the Daleks, the Five Doctors, Resurrection of the Daleks, Revelation of the Daleks, and Remembrance of the Daleks are not available, along with almost every serial missing at least one episode. SHOULD I BUY THE DVDs AND BLU-RAYS? Just for the bonus features alone. THE NOT-AT-ALL BRIEF GUIDE TO BIG FINISH There are hundreds, probably thousands of Doctor Who and Doctor Who-related audio dramas released by Big Finish Productions. This is not a post telling you what audio dramas to listen to, because everyone has an opinion that is different from everyone else (some people like Minuet in Hell, believe it or not). This is a post telling you the basic info on the different series of titles there are. I'm only covering ongoing ranges, since devoting a paragraph to the Stage Plays seems a bit silly. If you're wondering why I'm about to spend a good portion of the OP about audio dramas, you are clearly new to the Doctor Who thread. The Monthly Range Since 1999, Big Finish have released, on a consistent basis, mostly standalone stories featuring the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh (formerly including Eighth) Doctors. Up to 235th(!) release this month. The Fourth Doctor Adventures Tom Baker gets his own line of releases. The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield Sylvester McCoy (and later, David Warner) plays a supporting role to Bernice Summerfield, a companion introduced in the Virgin New Adventures line of books. Novel Adaptations Based on Virgin New Adventures and Virgin Missing Adventures, the book ranges that lasted Doctor Who fans from 1991 to 1997. The Eighth Doctor Adventures / Dark Eyes / Doom Coalition / The Eighth Doctor - The Time War / Ravenous Paul McGann's Doctor also gets his own line. Goons love 'em. The Tenth Doctor Adventures David Tennant reprises his role in mini-seasons every chance he can get, and the results are very RTD-like. In a good way! The Companion Chronicles / The Early Adventures This is important: SOME OF THESE ARE NOT AUDIO DRAMAS. These are "enhanced audiobooks" for the most part, which means that one person does all the parts while another gives narration, but also contains sound effects and music cues. The Companion Chronicles originally were one-handers, but now may contain small casts, which the Early Adventure always have. The Ones with Fake Doctors The First Doctor Adventures, the Third Doctor Adventures, and the Ninth/Tenth/Eleventh Doctor Chronicles feature people who are not the original actors playing the roles of the title Doctor. If you're OK with that, by all means give them a try. Spinoffs There are a ton of these, ranging from good (I, Davros) to who gives a poo poo (anything involving a companion from the audio series). THE TOXXUPATION THREAD WITH A VENGEANCE It's on hiatus! Watch in amazement as the forums user currently known as Lick! The! Whisk! puts his writing skills to the test in describing his thoughts on the most recent series. They will be wrong. THE DISCORD Here it is. The future is now! So, yeah. That's about it for everything. Not much happened 10 years ago in the Doctor Who threads. So....there you go! Edward Mass fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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Oh, you've redecorated.... I don't like it
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Wonderful threads All of them
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 00:18 |
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JOKE DRAWN FROM SHOW MATERIAL
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 00:21 |
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Every time we start a new thread (well done btw) I get the feeling we should rewrite a few of those BF recommendations. Some parts are inaccurate (Dorian Gray technically isn't a spinoff, for one) and I think a bit ungenerous. I wouldn't mind redrafting it, if that's okay with everyone?
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 00:29 |
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The next thread should just be that super creepy Tom Baker drawing from the last thread. That's all. Nothing else in the OP.
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 00:32 |
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Thread title explanation, for the lucky few who haven't heard it yet
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 00:33 |
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Whenever something about solar flares being blocked by trees in one episode counteract with lore, this guy appears (and yes he not Ian I know).
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 00:45 |
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OP fails to mention The War Doctor series. Please rectify
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 00:49 |
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New thread! .... the windows are the wrong size! Doctor Zero fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Feb 9, 2018 |
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*Dalek voice* Rosie ball. Ro-sie ball! RO-SIE BALL!!
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 01:07 |
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Personally I'm a big fan of how he just starts off by saying "i attended wanking lessons" like its nothing
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 01:51 |
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Rhyno posted:JOKE DRAWN FROM SHOW MATERIAL
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 02:16 |
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https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DeficientClutteredBluetickcoonhound-mobile.mp4
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Davros1 posted:OP fails to mention The War Doctor series. Please rectify Sadly, the series is not ongoing. Open Source Idiom posted:Every time we start a new thread (well done btw) I get the feeling we should rewrite a few of those BF recommendations. Some parts are inaccurate (Dorian Gray technically isn't a spinoff, for one) and I think a bit ungenerous. I'm going to be honest, I have changed exactly one part of the Spin-offs line since I wrote the original Guide to Big Finish. Maoist Banker added the links to my original guide, and so I assumed Dorian Gray was some spin-off that I knew nothing about. If you want to add depth, go ahead and write one out.
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 03:24 |
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so I just listened to that Tom Baker audio clip
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 04:19 |
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I want new episodes now. I think I'd prefer one story per month, 12 months of the year, with no broadcast breaks, than this "let's go for 12 weeks" thing.
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 05:34 |
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The solution is obvious: In the off-season we have a 6-8 episode season of "The Eighth Doctor" starring Paul McGann. I even wrote up a business plan for the BBC, which I'll share with you all now:quote:It would kick enormous amounts of rear end if there was a 6-8 episode season each year of "The Eighth Doctor" starring Paul McGann. Thank you. It's an airtight argument.
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 05:55 |
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https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/961939529765654529 New thread new Big Finish news. All the old CD only Gallifrey releases are now available on download, plus some discounts to celebrate.
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 13:41 |
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On the topic of Big Finish, they recently had a discount clearout of some older stock: Got myself the complete Sarah Jane Smith range: I miss Liz Sladen. This - which is hopefully going to be either fantastically great, or fantastically awful based soley on the title: I hope, anyway And some Benny Summerfield: Because, holy gently caress, is it too expensive to get hold of some of them second hand online, and I've never ever seen any of them in the wild - did once see a near complete collection of Target Books when I was younger, but couldn't afford them.
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 18:49 |
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Is there anywhere to stream the new Xmas episode? I got all caught up on amazon prime, but they don't have the latest Xmas one yet. The BBCA app does not even list Dr Who as a show to watch, unless I am somehow using the app wrong.
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 21:33 |
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badjohny posted:Is there anywhere to stream the new Xmas episode? I got all caught up on amazon prime, but they don't have the latest Xmas one yet. iTunes has it but you would need to buy it.
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 21:36 |
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badjohny posted:Is there anywhere to stream the new Xmas episode? I got all caught up on amazon prime, but they don't have the latest Xmas one yet. From what I recall it goes live for Prime on the 13th, the day of the physical release.
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Doctor Zero posted:iTunes has it but you would need to buy it. You can also buy it through Amazon Prime, it just isn't free yet.
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# ? Feb 9, 2018 21:39 |
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Short Synopsis: There's nothing unique about Charley Long Synopsis: The Doctor and Charley try to return to 1930s Earth but find themselves on a nameless planet occupied by savages who cannot think and a documentary crew filming them for alien benefactors. When ANOTHER Charley shows up, the 6th Doctor takes a leaf out of the 8th Doctor's book. What Worked/What Didn't:
Final Thoughts: Blue Forgotten Planet is a good story with neat concepts and the best use so far of the usually underwhelming Viyrans. But as a resolution to the ill-handled two Charley's storyarc it doesn't offer much other than a sweet coda and a somewhat unsatisfying,"None of this actually happened now" resolution to the threat of the main plot. Colin Baker is as good as ever and I'll miss India Fisher and her wonderful voice, but their unexpected pairing never really quite worked or had the chemistry she had with Paul McGann. It does mark the end of an era however, and I'm keen to see where they go next with Baker's Doctor... though wherever it is and whoever it is with, I imagine Colin Baker will be worth the price of admission as always.
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Pesky Splinter posted:This - which is hopefully going to be either fantastically great, or fantastically awful based soley on the title: It's good. Title's not literal though. I think Louise Jameson's character is meant to be based on Lynda Bellingham's performance in Trial of a Timelord. I miss Lynda Bellinghamd.
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In a way, I think it's for the best the Eighth Doctor is primarily audio, since that lets them get away with more stuff that would be difficult on a show budget Still, needs more wobbly TARDIS consoles, occasionally bumping into the camera, and corpsing something fierce whenever Eight goes ham on some poor fool
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Vinylshadow posted:In a way, I think it's for the best the Eighth Doctor is primarily audio, since that lets them get away with more stuff that would be difficult on a show budget Hey now, I was listening to Moths Ate My Doctor Who Scarf and Toby Hadoke says that apparently only happened twice! Where'd that brainbug come from? There were some bad effects (The Myrka comes to mind), Scripts (Twin Dilemma) and acting, especially towards the end of the classic series, but where does the idea the whole edifice was shoddy come from?
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In the 80s the budgets were notoriously cut, and it was a common joke even at the time that the whole thing was cheap (I remember a lot of,"Oh no, a man with a paper bag on his head!" monster jokes whenever Doctor Who came up in other media) which I guess built to a point that "cheap and wobbly" became accepted as what Doctor Who was now and had ALWAYS been.
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# ? Feb 11, 2018 01:50 |
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I just caught up. I wasn't a huge fan of Capaldi's 12 for a long time. I lost interest in the series. I think a large part of that is that I just kind of struggle when they changed doctors/companions but keep the old one. Like, I didn't like Clare when she was with 11 and I think part of that was me comparing her to the Ponds, but I started to take to her more when 12 showed up because it felt like a new start. And I liked 12 more with Bill and Nardle because there just felt like less baggage and stuff that wasn't his. But I enjoyed the last season and I'm debating giving the whole 12 run another chance removed from any expectations or feelings about 11. And it all in all makes me interested to go into 13 with what looks like a clean slate and a fresh start like 11 (mostly) had.
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# ? Feb 11, 2018 02:50 |
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Clara really did suffer from jumping in halfway through Matt Smith's last season (I can't remember, did they know it was his last season at the time?) and I agree that she really didn't come into her own until she was with Capaldi. Which makes it ironic that a large part of that first season was Clara struggling to accept the loss of 11. I'm excited for the entirely fresh start but I am sad that Bill Potts only got one season. On the other hand, like Donna she never got a chance to outlive her welcome so she'll probably always be fondly remembered. As much as I loved Karen Gillan and Arthur Darvill they were hurt by sticking around half a season longer than they needed to.
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Yeah. The half season with Amy and Rory felt like the plot was just spinning in a circle until they left. If they were gone from the start then they could got Clara act moving a bit faster and had more room for the Great Intelligence.
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E: wrong thread
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Rirse posted:Yeah. The half season with Amy and Rory felt like the plot was just spinning in a circle until they left. If they were gone from the start then they could got Clara act moving a bit faster and had more room for the Great Intelligence. Huh, I'd have said the opposite. The first half with Amy and Rory is a half decent character drama (which ends on an uncomfortable and doubtless unintended note, but what can you do?). The second half is a lot of smoke and mirrors redundancy where we're invited to speculate about something happening when, in fact, nothing is. Also the second half has Journey To The Centre of The TARDIS and Cold War. Point 7A.
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Amy and Rory had a great send-off at the end of season 6, and even a really lovely cameo in the otherwise dreadful Christmas Special for that year. Bringing them back for more felt like a mistake, even if the chemistry was intact and it was neat seeing more of them. It'll always be a case of "What if..?" but I can't help but think that given a full season to work on it, they could have made the 11/Clara relationship work better than it did in the barely half a season they had to bring her in and resolve the "mystery".
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# ? Feb 11, 2018 04:39 |
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Oh, how about this for season 7? We get the Victorian Clara as planned originally for the first half, she dies saving the Doctor, then he meets modern Clara for the second half of the season as was.
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The_Doctor posted:Oh, how about this for season 7? We get the Victorian Clara as planned originally for the first half, she dies saving the Doctor, then he meets modern Clara for the second half of the season as was. That sounds way better to me, to be honest. Though it wouldn't solve the problem of RealClara only having 7 episodes, but then again, I don't think the problem there was the amount of episodes, but just that Moffat didn't *really* figure out how to write the character until Capaldi arrived.
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