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Part 1: Welcome to the World of Advancements!![]() ![]() ![]() Middle-aged Man Lecture probably wasn't the best travel entertainment, but at least it gave me light to see. I need some sunlight. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Going from no bedrooms to one, that's quite the upgrade. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Evenin'. ![]() So it's a bit of a different start than we're used to, but welcome to Pokemon Emerald! This game is great, I'm super excited to LP this, so let's get time rolling and start our adventure. ![]() ![]() ![]() Late night recordings are best recordings. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Definitely can't forget this. Where were you in Crystal? ![]() ![]() Man, someone's rich. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Littleroot Town/Mishiro Town: A town that can't be shaded any hue. From little and root, where the beginnings of plants grow, and mi (not yet) or mi (three) and shiro (white). Since the town's slogans are more similar this gen, I'll be rolling it into one line unless there's a big difference. ![]() ![]() Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Been here five minutes and I already have property. Right, what've we got? ![]() ![]() ![]() Got a Bag with lots of pockets and a nice empty Trainer Card that needs filling. Should be a good time. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Gonna break into your room and read your email. It better be saucy. ![]() ![]() Aww. Well, at least there's an item on the floor to cheer me up. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well she seemed nice. There's a few differences between Brendan and May, I just wanted to do something different and choose the guy, no real preference otherwise. Though May's encounter theme is better than Brendan's, so I'll just be linking hers in future. ![]() ![]() Sup, Max. ![]() Yet again we're playing hunt the professor. ![]() ![]() Still good, circa 2004. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Alright, I guess I'll go walk around the grass, I guess. So you might have noticed I'm using overworld sprites for some characters and battle sprites for others. I wanted to do something different and I'll only use the overworld sprites when there's no corresponding battle sprite, or it's an important character with no artwork. Saves me having to crop a sprite and make it larger. There will be times I'll need the battle sprite though, later down the line. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Nah. ![]() ![]() I was kidding! Take a joke! ![]() ![]() ![]() So instead of linking to the analysis and halting the update in its tracks while I write about 251 Pokemon in misery, I'm just gonna cover the new Hoenn Pokemon and only give a small summary just below the big info graphic, since they're easy enough to figure out. Also any Side Notes I'll be doing will only be about mechanics, since I don't feel like I have too much to talk about regarding the anime and whatever. Right, so, Treecko. It's really good for this game and Sapphire, where there's a lot of Water types around. But it doesn't get too many moves to work with. Still, Grass STAB is pretty nice for most of the game, only struggling in the middle somewhat. It's a cool gecko friend and there's never a wrong choice for starters, especially in this gen. ![]() ![]() ![]() Torchic has a bit of a rough start due to the Rock Gym start, but when it evolves, hoo boy it starts to wreck pretty easily. Fire and Fighting, while the start of a horrible trend, are pretty great and it works especially well in Ruby, where you can smash those Fire and, uh, Steel types, at the end. Shame no one really chose it in the remake cause they used it in their first playthrough of XY. No matter which you choose, the starters' Ability of Overgrow, Blaze or Torrent do the same thing. At 33% health, all Grass/Fire/Water moves will be boosted by 50%, meaning they hit super hard combined with STAB. It's a risky idea to stay at that amount, but it's a super good way of getting out of a jam. ![]() ![]() ![]() So we've gone with Venusaur and Typhlosion. Guess who's turn it is? Not that it's a real arm twister, Mudkip is bloody lovely and I liek very much. Right, let's never reference that meme again. Useful in whatever game you're playing, Water and Ground and a beautiful combo and it'll become a great HM slave, if nothing else. But still, I would've happily taken anyone, all good choices, but my heart belongs to this mud fish. ![]() ![]() ![]() God the colours, the advances from the last gen, THE MUSIC. I love these games. I'll go over new Pokemon when we can actually catch them. For now, let's just beat it up. ![]() ![]() I'll also only be covering new moves introduces in Gen 3, since I've gone over previous moves twice already in previous LPs. What can I say, if I'm gonna keep these main game LPs up, I gotta streamline, while keeping it fresh. ![]() ![]() ![]() First battle goes like you'd expect. Though I do hope I'm not going too fast for some people. I am assuming you've read my and Yellow and Crystal LPs. So don't get left behind! (It's not a huge deal if you haven't, I just think they're cool) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh we have the perfect nickname for you, chosen by the people at the end of the Conquest thread (oh yeah, you should definitely read my Conquest LP, I'm super happy with it), though originally suggested by asymmetrical. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh go on then, she is my only friend in this region right now. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Let us see how Nobunaga fares. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Modest nature??? Also wow that Speed ![]() ![]() ![]() Half of the family just doesn't stay still. ![]() ![]() Time for adventure! And wild encounters! ![]() ![]() Just walking through the grass... ![]() ...and then not encounter anything? I feel cheated. ![]() ![]() ![]() I need some experience for my babby warlord! ![]() ![]() Alright, let's move on to the next town. ![]() Oldale Town/Kotoki Town: Where things start off scarce. A combination of old and dale, and a combination of ko (old) and toki time. Or literally means koto ki (unusual tree). ![]() ![]() ![]() First stop should always be the Pokemon Center. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Surprise, surprise, they haven't changed. ![]() ![]() ![]() Sure, I'm incredibly trusting. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ah, gimme that free poo poo. I could definitely use some Pokeballs. ![]() ![]() That guy outside is lyyyyyyyiiiiiinnnnnnnggggg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ah here's where we need to go. ![]() Ugh, water. ![]() ![]() Ooh, it's a cute doggy. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The doggo didn't do much, but hey, first level. It's nice to have all it there in one image in the end like that. Makes my life easier. ![]() It's gonna be a bit until we get some STAB, but this is an alright move for the moment. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Peep that tune, hot drat. Oh yeah, this game also has animated sprites, though not as complex as the ones in Crystal. I ain't giffing them, so enjoy that brief glance. As per usual, our rival has the starter that's strong against ours. This is totally not a problem later. *shudder* ![]() ![]() Early battles really aren't that entertaining to cover in an LP. Save me. Well I might as well talk about their names, or something. Anything, really. Brendan's name is from brave, as that's what yūki means. Shame I couldn't use ū in my name, but oh well. May is a spring month, as haruka means spring flower. ![]() ![]() ![]() Nice nice nice, we'll need Nobunaga nice and strong for the future. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Nice straight shot, uh, straight down. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Phew, that was a journey, but we made it back. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh hi MOM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I think Gen 3 MOM has more lines than Gen 1 and 2 MOMS combined. Anyway... ![]() ![]() The Pokedex is pretty neat, everything's on one image, which is much easier for me. It also has a few more features. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The area tab can be helpful, as well as being able to jump to the top and bottom as the game goes on. ![]() ![]() There's even searching! Yeah I never use it either. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Since we haven't healed since the May fight, might as well while we're here. Who knows when we'll be back home again? ![]() WOWZA, look at this running speed. I have missed this so much. ![]() ![]() OKAY, with Pokeballs and a healed Nobunaga, let's catch some Pokemon! ![]() ![]() ![]() Huh, didn't expect to find the rarest thing so quickly. Well it's good cause Zigzagoon is a great utility mon, able to learn all kinds of field moves and has a cool ability in Pickup. I'll talk about abilities after the Pokemon, since quite a few of them have something cool to them. Anyway, Zigzagoon is trash, just use it for items and we'll be keeping it in the party for a while. I advise you do the same. Now a lot of abilities were actually changed in Emerald, either given little tweaks, or having a field effect. After every battle, a Pokemon with Pickup has a 10% chance of getting an item from a pool that's determined by its level, even if it didn't participate or if it's fainted. Here is a more detailed look into Pickup and how good it is for the various Gen 3 games. Don't worry, I won't have so much to talk about in regards to other abilities. ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh good, the crits are starting. Catching stuff is easy enough, get their health low and throw some balls. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The good ol' 1, 2, 3. Wurmple, surprise surprise, is good to begin with (well, Beautifly anyway) and then falls behind as the game goes on. It'll teach you the wonders of evolution, but one of its final forms that you've got your heart set on might not happen, since its evolution is basically random, but something I'll go over later. Shield Dust prevents additional effects from attacks from occurring, like Sheer Force for the enemy, but no power boost. It has no effect on status moves, but it makes a Pokemon basically immune to Freeze, since that's only an additional effect. ![]() ![]() Nice going there guy. We can head out onto Route 102, but let's go back to Route 103 and catch a couple more Pokemon. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The last of the first Pokemon you can encounter. It's bad. Pure Dark is pretty neat, but that's still a special type, so the Poochy line doesn't really gain anything from it. Also its moveset is rubbish, but it wouldn't really help it anyway. Oh well, still cute as hell! Run Away lets the Pokemon escape from wild battles no matter what. It doesn't do anything in trainer battles, or with switching to another Pokemon. So, uh, it's pretty bad. I guess it's good to have when you've ran out of Repels. ![]() One last Pokemon to find. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This one ain't too bad, even if it's everywhere. If you need a Water type, a Flying type, or both, then it'll do that just fine. Though you will be relying on its Water attacks more. Still, it has some good matchups coming up and it'll be just fine, if not amazing. Keen Eye prevents accuracy drops, but abilties that reduce accuracy ignore Keen Eye. While at the front of the party, it has a 50% chance of stopping wild Pokemon that are 5 or more levels below the user from appearing. It's not too amazing, but it'll come up a few times, so I guess it can't be that bad. Accuracy drops fuckin suck. ![]() ![]() ![]() Not a bad haul for the very start. If you're wondering if I'm going to complete the Hoenn Pokedex... what do you think? I won't be doing the National Pokedex legit though, gently caress that. ![]() ![]() Oh hey, what's this feature? ![]() ![]() Ahhhhhhhh, I've missed this so so much. The storage system overhaul was desperately needed and it's pretty great. ![]() ![]() Quick stop by the Mart to restock on Balls. Gonna need plenty for the next few areas. ![]() ![]() ![]() With the Apricorn Balls being practically non-existent in these games, we've got some more Pokeballs that don't really replace them. ![]() When you buy basic Pokeballs ten at a time, you'll get a Premier Ball. What does it do? Nothing. It's a Pokeball, but it looks pretty. I'll need it for next update. ![]() Speaking of which, next time, we'll be going on a little catching spree as we head to Route 102 and beyond. Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Feb 9, 2018 |
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Side Notes #01: Release Overview After the absolutely ridiculous success of the first two generations, money and fan expectations were expecting a new entry in the series. While Pokemon gave the Gameboy life, it was succeeded by the GBA, so Pokemon moved onto the new system and all the technological advancements that came with it. There's a lot here that's improved from previous games, but a huge amount of it was behind the scenes, so it made the games completely incompatible with previous ones. So when Ruby and Sapphire came out in November 2002, only 200 Pokemon out of 386 could be obtained and those you've obtained in previous games can't be moved forward. It sucked and coupled with the lack of the day/night changes and real distance from the previous regions and characters, the new generation didn't start on the right foot. What was there was super good, but it wasn't perfect. Thankfully, this was alleviated somewhat on January 2004 when FireRed and LeafGreen, remakes of the original Red and Green, were released, with updates to Kanto, making loads of Pokemon available again, including a chunk of Johto mons, and sticking to the original games pretty closely, for better or for worse. It also introduced the Wireless Adapter, which was a pretty neat device. There was also the e-Reader, in 2002, but it didn't sell well, so by the remakes it had been discontinued in America. Surrounding the release of Gen 3, Pokemon Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness for the Gamecube were released on November 2003 and August 2005, respectively, allowing people to obtain the missing Johto Pokemon much easier and focusing on sweet rear end Double Battles. It could connect to the Gen 3 games and made getting certain rare mons a breeze, as well as letting you play on the big screen. Finally, Emerald was released in September 2004, an enhanced version of Ruby and Sapphire, having more changes to the original story than Crystal and Yellow before it, but still not a huge amount to justify it. Still, at least it was a 3 year gap compared to 1. So yeah, those are the dates, on with the show!
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Gen 3 was before the Physical Special split, right? So your Nobunaga will be good at half his final typing's STAB moves with that Nature.
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Gen 3 was my life during the few years after Ruby/Sapphire's release, I played these so much and still have very fond memories of them. Nintendo was rather experimental in their GBA and GC years, and I feel like it really shows in Gen 3 with stuff like e-Reader support or the entire concept behind Pokémon Colosseum and XD. And I loved every bit of it. Looking forward to reliving all of that!
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I remember people being real angry about Fire Red and Leaf Green being ways to get people to pay Nintendo more money just to catch 'em all (because those were gen 3 compatible). It turns out to have been true, sorta... The virtual console allows you to extract pokemon from the virtual console versions of Gen 1 and send them to modern games, showing that with enough effort, Nintendo could've found a way to make Gen 1/2 compatible with Gen 3 back then. But they didn't. They remade the games instead. But it's a bit too long ago to still be pissed about that. The funny thing is, because every game changes what moves every pokemon learns naturally, the virtual console releases allow people to have pokemon with moves they could ONLY have in gen 1 in modern games now. It expended the competitive pokemon scene a bit by 'allowing' moves that have been illegal on the latest gen ever since the release of Ruby and Sapphire.
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Crosspeice posted:Shield Dust prevents additional effects from attacks from occurring, like a Life Orb for the enemy, but no power boost. Are you thinking of the ability Sheer Force, not Life Orb? Life Orbs drain HP, not get rid of additional effects, though I see why you'd get that wrong - the two tend to be used together to get rid of the nastier effects of the latter. On a slightly less nitpick-y note, it's interesting to see the differences in names between Japanese and English.
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Time for trumpets parp parp parp parp parp parp parp
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There's a youtube channel that's used the original sound module to recreate the songs in good quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3FKSyHYNCY
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Time for trumpets things I unironically like: the RSE music. Sinnoh was more fun to explore but RSE had the better music and puzzles. e: What if trumpets, but too much? Let's Play Pokemon Emerald
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Emerald. I have a lot to say about this game, and it is all undeniably positive. I love Emerald with all my heart. I love Hoenn with all my heart. I remember a lot of people were mad about Ruby/Sapphire. I wasn't. It was the first time I actually tried to get info on the games before they came out (I was a child back then, the anime was my info for the previous two gens!) and I remember just falling in love immediately with what I saw was coming. I found a Pokemon that became my favourite, and kept being my favourite to this day, to the point that half my namesake is that Pokemon('s ability/part of its name). And even so, I didn't use it in OR because I had already used it in Y. You are right in that one, Crosspeice. Emerald is a massive upgrade over RS too, uniting both stories and just fixing a lot in general, it's a wonderful game and I wish it had been updated for the current standards. Instead we got ORAS that ignored Emerald completely for reasons I will never understand, or I may understand but never agree with. It was a terrible decision, but I will remain positive because I love Emerald! It was such a gigantic change for a child, seeing how the blocky, badly-coloured Gameboy Color graphics of Crystal turned into the beautiful Hoenn, how a lot of things were now actually shown to you as proper sprites instead of just text, everything was an incredible change, technology is amazing! Even the box became far less of a pain to use! I just love Emerald to bits. It's not my favourite anymore, but it's definitely up there. I can't wait to see you show it in all its glory as you did with the previous two generations, and I'll follow it and point out all those things that made Hoenn so dear to me, as much as I can. I'll also point out that you made Oldale far scarier than it actually is, "Oldale Town/Kotoki Town: Where things start off scare." should be scarce instead.
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I have several thousand hours sunk into RSE. (they were released when I was a lonely young teenager, ok?) This gen has some of my favorite starter designs, and a lot of the new Pokemon are really cool. I'm really happy to see someone visiting it again.Leraika posted:things I unironically like: the RSE music. Same, I really like this gen's music. Also, what the hell is going on with the oldale slogan? "Oldale Town/Kotoki Town: Where things start off scare."
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Solumin posted:I have several thousand hours sunk into RSE. (they were released when I was a lonely young teenager, ok?) This gen has some of my favorite starter designs, and a lot of the new Pokemon are really cool. I'm really happy to see someone visiting it again. Crosspeice typoed that one. It is "Where things start off scarce".
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Abilities are cool, but I kind of wish they had made them less powerful and allowed them to stack. It doesn't make any sense that some snakes can shed their skin and some can look intimidating when they're all the same animal with the same capabilities. Plus that Psychic/Steel thing from Platinum would have to be completely redone and we would all benefit from that.
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Sapphire was my introduction to the series, so Gen 3 has a dear place in my heart. Steven is the true Champion though. ![]()
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Carbon dioxide posted:I remember people being real angry about Fire Red and Leaf Green being ways to get people to pay Nintendo more money just to catch 'em all (because those were gen 3 compatible). FractalSandwich fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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Emerald is very very good and the best of the gen 3 games by a mile. I love Hoenn, even if it does have its assorted flaws (w a t e r r o u t e s), so much. I think it has some of the best land routes in the series. Emerald has great tilesets too. And the trumpets! I really liked ORAS more than some other people but the only thing it really needed from me....was more gratuitous blaring trumpets. It's kind of hialrious how this & FRLG came out in the same year. Between that and how long it took DP to come out and how...rough DP was you get the feeling there was some weird development troubles going on behind the scenes. You glossed over it but, man, it cannot be overstated how much better the PC is starting now. No saving between boxes, instant switching around, able to grab and move multiple pokemon at once, item moving, a lovely visual overhaul and it's great. One of many reasons it's much easier to go back to gen 3 than gens 1 & 2. I hope when we start getting around to actually catching them all you go into more detail about the nonsense that is getting the national dex in gen 3. Your release overview kind of touches on it, the way they split up pokemon is terrible and even using the gamecube games still leaves dumb holes in everything. IT's a very involved process here more than most other gens .
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The Ayshkerbundy posted:There's a youtube channel that's used the original sound module to recreate the songs in good quality These are insanely good, everyone should check them out.
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When the games were new, my mother bought me a clear pink GBA and a copy of Sapphire. They were the first games console and game that was my own, not just something borrowed from my older siblings. So yeah, I love Gen 3 and have probably logged a scary amount of time in them, up to this day. Even with ORAS existing and also being quite good, the GBA games are extremely nostalgic for me. Torchic is the best starter though. ![]()
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Soup du Jour posted:These are insanely good, everyone should check them out. Agreed, the horns sound so good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQPnzIr2oTY
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The original horns are the best and I refuse to budge on that. ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlVV44BA968 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxzwzSY4IXE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuEx6QiWTEo
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hopeandjoy posted:Torchic is the best starter though. Yes, yes it is. This is good taste, right here. Blaziken will probably never stop being my favourite Pokemon.
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All the starters this generation were pretty solid, in my opinion. Torchic's hard to replace, though, while IIRC this is where Barboach/Whishcash first appeared and they can do Mudkip's job.
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Hey now, I didn't have a choice in starter, you want me to break a pattern? I'm glad everyone's looking forward to the LP, I'm only to Petalburg Woods and I'm having a blast right now. The music, the Pokemon, the graphics, ah it's all so good. Also cheers for being a better proofreader then I will ever be. Bring on the trumpets!
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Moving up to something approximating an actual sound chip must have been like paradise for the composers. Paradise and Gabriel's horn.
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Torchic is really good but I personally love Treecko a lot.
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I remember choosing Torchic solely thanks to the anime showing Blaziken as a teaser for Gen 3.
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Ah, Hoenn. The generation that turned me off to Pokemon for a while. All the new content that got added for these games just overwhelmed me and I gave up on the series until I peeked at Platinum and got back onboard. That said, I am very much Team Torchic for life. Once that little ball of adorable gets going, sweet merciful Arceus does it utterly wreck poo poo left and right. I do agree that the Fire/Fighting dual type for starters wore out its welcome really fast. Three generations in a row with that typing for starters definitely created fatigue, even if picking Chimchar in Diamond/Pearl was the only way to get a legit Fire type outside of Ponyta (what the gently caress was GameFreak thinking for those two games? ![]()
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I generally picked Torchic. Grass types are meh and you can salvage good water types elsewhere Fire types are always stupid rare.
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To this day, RSE is the only set of games in the mainline series that I haven't beaten. Every time I played them, I usually lost interest around the 6th gym. I only became a Hoenn champion when I beat Alpha Sapphire and abusing repels when I needed to go into the ocean routes. Edit: Picked Mudkip on the GBA games since I pretty much picked water starters until Gen 6, and wound up going with Treecko in Alpha Sapphire because of its Mega evolution.
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Verant posted:and abusing repels when I needed to go into the ocean routes.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I generally picked Torchic. Grass types are meh and you can salvage good water types elsewhere
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AlphaKretin posted:Sapphire was my introduction to the series, so Gen 3 has a dear place in my heart. Ah, kids these days. Lemme tell you, when I was young, Gen 1 was all we had, and we ENJOYED that pixelated monochrome mess. ![]()
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MagusofStars posted:I almost never pick the water starter in any Pokémon game for this reason. In every game, there are like dozens of viable water types to choose from...but the fire and grass types are consistently some combination of rare / mediocre / not available till really late game. Unless you're playing Gen V. Where there were a LOT of Grass types. But picking the Grass type starter is the real Hard Mode for that gen.
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Glazius posted:Moving up to something approximating an actual sound chip must have been like paradise for the composers. Paradise and Gabriel's horn. The opposite, actually! While the Game Boy does have a dedicated sound chip, it's all done in software on the GBA.
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Nice to get in on the ground floor in this. I read the yellow and Crystal lps and enjoyed them a bunch. I couldn't really get into your conquest lp, but maybe I'll give it another try. Gen 1 and 3 were the only ones I've played to any real extent, so I'm looking forward to this.
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Am I the only one who loves Torchic but hates its evos? ![]() And I always use a Poochyena, even though it is legitimately not a good or strong pokemon, because it's just so. drat. cute!
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Aesclepia posted:Am I the only one who loves Torchic but hates its evos? Blaziken is great and I'll accept no insults towards it. Combusken is an awful middle stage but teenage years tend to do that to people and I'm glad Torchic grows into an upstanding adult and a proper member of its community (said community being ubers now, Speed Boost too good).
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Blaze Dragon posted:Blaziken is great and I'll accept no insults towards it. Same. ...I also have a lot of nostalgia for Blaze, the female Torchic/Combusken/Blaziken who was the first starter I chose in Sapphire though.
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 16:21 |
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Tooting my horn to the next page.
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