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Julio Cruz posted:England really should be out of sight by now, I'm worried these stupid penalties are going to cost us. The defence is starting to fall apart a bit, and Wales are getting over the gainline. They really haven’t done anything in the second half, like they scored two tries and went “right, job done.”
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Feb 10, 2018 19:17
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Lmao Wales
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Feb 10, 2018 19:17
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goatface posted:What a poo poo finish. Best he could do, Welsh players are much slower than the English.
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Feb 10, 2018 19:17
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Oh Wales! Great tackle by Underhill. Anscombe at 10 has been playing really well, he's making things happen so far.
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Feb 10, 2018 19:17
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Commentators mentioning the tackle, rather than the most half assed, Sunday school "finish" I've ever seen
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Feb 10, 2018 19:18
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Brony Hunter posted:Commentators mentioning the tackle, rather than the most half assed, Sunday school "finish" I've ever seen Israel Dagg once got berated by McCaw, Mealamu, and after the match, Graham Henry despite scoring the winning try in a test match for a poor finish. I just wonder what they’d have said then.
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Feb 10, 2018 19:20
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It's weird seeing Wigglesworth on the field. I thought he was done.
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Feb 10, 2018 19:25
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Some poo poo tackling on show this game. I expect better from these fat babies.
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Feb 10, 2018 19:28
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calculated apparently
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Feb 10, 2018 19:30
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Sets up an interesting final 3 mins but I don't see Wales scoring a try.
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Feb 10, 2018 19:34
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sleep with the vicious posted:Sets up an interesting final 3 mins but I don't see Wales scoring a try. Yep.
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Feb 10, 2018 19:39
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Jeez Wigglesworth almost threw that past Farrell
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Feb 10, 2018 19:39
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Urgh
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Feb 10, 2018 19:40
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What’s even the point of bringing north on if you don’t set up the play so that a game winning try can only come at the price of his brain
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Feb 10, 2018 19:43
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I'm particularly enjoying the salt from Welsh fans about how Anscombe got to the ball first so it should have been a try, ignoring the fact that that wasn't the reason it wasn't given.
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Feb 10, 2018 20:10
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Julio Cruz posted:I'm particularly enjoying the salt from Welsh fans about how Anscombe got to the ball first so it should have been a try, ignoring the fact that that wasn't the reason it wasn't given. Why wasn't it given?
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Feb 10, 2018 20:13
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The TMO ruled that Anscombe didn't have full control of the ball.
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Feb 10, 2018 20:15
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Julio Cruz posted:The TMO ruled that Anscombe didn't have full control of the ball. Ah right, I missed the reason during the game. Woodward and Wilkinson thought it was a try as well so i did wonder why it wasn't given.
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Feb 10, 2018 20:19
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The 2nd half of the England v Wales match was so unbelievably loving boring. e: I mean the whole match was pretty shite, but particularly the 2nd half. Even when Wales got within 1 score I just couldn't manage to give a poo poo.
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Feb 10, 2018 20:26
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Foxtrot_13 posted:The Welsh player didn't have enough control of the ball for it to be grounding (according to the TMO). Julio Cruz posted:The TMO ruled that Anscombe didn't have full control of the ball. Which was bizarre as he only needed downward pressure not full control. You would have thought a qualified referee would have realised that.
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Feb 10, 2018 21:39
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Did he, though? He brushed the ball, but how much pressure was there? Besides, Wales had plenty of opportunity on attack and that was early enough in the test to probably have no significant impact on the game.
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Feb 10, 2018 21:41
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Julio Cruz posted:The TMO ruled that Anscombe didn't have full control of the ball. Nah mate he said ‘no clear grounding’ because the laws don’t say you have to have control
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Feb 10, 2018 21:42
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Vagabundo posted:Did he, though. He brushed the ball, but how much pressure was there? The laws also don’t say you need downward pressure any more. I’d say it was a 50 50 call but control and downward pressure aren’t a thing
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Feb 10, 2018 21:43
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Vagabundo posted:Did he, though. He brushed the ball, but how much pressure was there? I'm biased, but I thought he clearly pressed down with his fingertips. Vagabundo posted:Besides, Wales had plenty of opportunity on attack and that was early enough in the test to probably have no significant impact on the game. Yes, exactly this We were lucky not to get lose by more. I felt after 20 minutes we were going to get pumped. bigfoot again posted:The laws also don’t say you need downward pressure any more. You have to press down. Explicitly stated in the laws. IRB law 21.1 posted:The ball can be grounded in in-goal: stavros880 fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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Feb 10, 2018 21:46
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Vagabundo posted:Did he, though? He brushed the ball, but how much pressure was there? Yeah, this is why I'm not enraged by the decision. Wales still had sixty odd minutes to score more points. They didn't, they didn't really deserve to win.
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Feb 10, 2018 22:53
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Christ that was a painful match to watch, neither of those sides are going to beat Ireland
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Feb 10, 2018 23:14
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England looked really lethargic, and seemed to just go through the motions on defence for much of the game once they scored a couple of early tries. They were also clearly out of gas at the end of the game, as they started to fall off of tackles and the Welsh one-off runners were easily getting over the advantage line.
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Feb 10, 2018 23:24
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Skarsnik posted:Christ that was a painful match to watch, neither of those sides are going to beat Ireland Well not if they play like that but England can and will play a lot better.
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Feb 11, 2018 00:19
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I would have given it.
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Feb 11, 2018 05:12
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I wouldn't have. https://streamable.com/15kee
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Feb 11, 2018 08:55
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I think that's a try. Just barely.
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Feb 11, 2018 09:11
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To me it looks like the Welshman slaps the ball down with his fingers from a good few inches above the ground, and it’s only the English player’s hand on top of the ball that prevents it from spilling forward*. Had it not been for the English player it would have been a Welsh knock-on. The English player is the one with control of the ball (or more control than the Welsh player at least), and is the one who applies the positive downward pressure necessary to keep the ball on the ground A.K.A. ‘grounded’. So given that it’s not a clearly grounded try, I’d personally give the benefit of the doubt to the English in this case. Caveats: I’m a filthy English myself and not an international level rugby referee! Got me thinking what would happen in a hypothetical situation where the ball has travelled across the scoreline, and two competing players both get a hand physically touching the ball, and both players ground that ball simultaniously with equal amounts of positive downward pressure? Edit: on a second look the ball slides forward out the Welsh players’ hand anyway, so any downward pressure he might have been applying to the ball is questionable. O-Unit fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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Feb 11, 2018 09:45
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ollie74656 posted:Got me thinking what would happen in a hypothetical situation where the ball has travelled across the scoreline, and two competing players both get a hand physically touching the ball, and both players ground that ball simultaniously with equal amounts of positive downward pressure? First one to get there?
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Feb 11, 2018 09:49
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Vagabundo posted:First one to get there? Pretty sure it's a 5 meter scrum. This happens every year.
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Feb 11, 2018 10:23
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I'm going to link it because of size but here's a picture of the grounding/not grounding. It probably wouldn't have been given if we didn't have TMOs I'm not that worried about it not being given even as a Wales supporter.
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Feb 11, 2018 11:19
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Also even if it was a try it was flukey as poo poo. I’m more concerned that Wales were fitter than England, which not many teams manage
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Feb 11, 2018 12:34
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France - Scotland has sped off at a rate of knots. Both trying a lot, Scotland playing from their 22, France offloading constantly, all within three minutes.
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Feb 11, 2018 16:05
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Very Scotland.
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Feb 11, 2018 16:05
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I'd forgotten this game was on. Thank you for reminding me.
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Feb 11, 2018 16:06
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