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Jeb! Repetition posted:Reminded me more of an 80s sci fi pastiche with Blade Runner, Total Recall and one I can't put my finger on for the industrial spice mine city It only looks like Blade Runner insofar as one shot is a direct reference to Blade Runner's police station.  (The image from the teaser is mirrored here.) I don't actually see much or any similarity to Total Recall.
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Zoran posted:The only thing I recall about this is that George Lucas quit the director's guild because it was against the rules for him not to put his own name in opening credits at the start of the movies No the opposite He quit because they would not let him NOT run credits at the beginning. Iirc
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FuturePastNow posted:The monorail train, I guess That's actually one of the most explicit links to First Avenger: 
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I immediately thought Snowpiercer but yeah that's a pretty remarkable degree of similarity.
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Train in snow at mountain looks like train in snow at mountain.
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euphronius posted:No the opposite It was because the second time he did it, the DGA went after Kershner. He willingly paid the fine on the first Star Wars and stayed in the union; but when he let his former professor direct Empire, George took it extremely personally when the guild tried to punish him (also because they were charging Kershner a larger fine as though he had been responsible for the original breach of union rules). That is what made George go "y'know what? gently caress this" and leave the union. I think by the time Jedi came out the DGA had already reviewed the rules and struck the fine because other directors wanted to do similar things to Star Wars and lobbied for a change, but only in the case that a static credit roll be included at the end of the picture instead (which SAG and the WGA and PGA jumped on board with), leading to the current state of things where sometimes the movie's actual title doesn't show up until the end credits. I don't think a massive issue came up again since until 2005 when Robert Rodriguez quit the guild because they wouldn't give Frank Miller a co-director credit on Sin City.
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Train in snow at mountain looks like train in snow at mountain. Present another example with similar cinematography that is also part of a retrofuturistic pulp train heist/raid sequence. Also, the style is quite similar in pretty much everything we’ve been shown so far.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It only looks like Blade Runner insofar as one shot is a direct reference to Blade Runner's police station. Yeah this is mad real.
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euphronius posted:No the opposite That’s what I said.
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i am the bird posted:My favorite part of Solo is the metacontext in which we will watch a younger version of our hero, Han, in his sexhound days plowing his way through space women all over the galaxy while we recently watched his older self get murdered by his evil son and, in the next movie, we’ll watch his space wife die. I dunno the disney movies* have all been pretty asexual. I mean they have to do something because it's Han right, but it's probably less than you're thinking *i guess not tlj but thats mostly the kylo/rey tension Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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I saw the movie a while ago, but I can finally post my thoughts. The minuses: - Time span: It displeases me to say that this movie happens to share many of the same faults I had with its immediate predecessor (a movie that I think is the most disappointing SW film in the series). One of these issues, is the way the movie handles the passage of time. This movie happens within the course of no more than a single DAY. That is a very, very short amount of time for properly building up tension and character development. I mean, think about it. Rey becomes besties with Kylo Ren after he murdered his dad in front of her, and attempted to do the same to her and Finn (not to mention the countless other people he killed up until that point) in the time it takes to defrost a pound of frozen beef? Luke spent decades in self-imposed exile but suddenly sees the light in the time it takes to binge watching the first season of House of Cards? Sorry, but no. - World building: Another incredibly disappointing area in this movie. One of the many things that annoys me about both TFA and TLJ is that the writers/directors have access to a whole universe (both literally and figuratively) where they can let their imaginations run wild, but they never seem to take advantage of that. In TLJ, we pretty much have a grand total of 3 major locales that the audience is exposed to: Luke's island, Canto Bight, and Crate. While I really like Luke's island in that it looks like a pretty place, there's not much going on there. Crate was also really cool looking, but aside from the red salt under the top layer of uh...white salt, it looks pretty much just like Hoth, except probably warmer. And then we have Canto Bight. Good lord, what a wasted opportunity. I'm not against the idea of having an alien casino, but we didn't get that. We got a casino with aliens. By that I mean the casino itself doesn't seem visually interesting or distinct compared to a typical casino from Earth. I mean, you could just film the whole scene at Luxor's with a couple of people in walrus suits and call it a day. I mean really, THIS is the best you can do with all the stuff that's available to you? - Bad writing: This includes both dialogue and plot. Where the hell did the bombadiers come from? Clearly they weren't breaking the sound barrier any time soon, but they show up out of nowhere, taking the First Order by surprise, even. Why didn't Leia command the rest of Poe's squadron to fall back instead of just giving up after Poe ignored her? How the hell are Finn and Holdo supposed to be considered "traitors" when they were just planning on getting off the cruiser? Sure, you could make the claim that they were cowards, but traitors? Sounds like Rian just wanted to make a line sound cooler, or more melodramatic. Finn was about to bail on the rebels to save Rey but then decides that he's going to infiltrate Snoke's ship once he learns about the weakness? And what the hell was their plan for after they went on the ship? How were they going to come back to the cruiser? Then we have the scene where DJ betrays Finn and Rose. Phasma comes out and presents him with the payment and ship for betraying the rebels. Not so surprising, right? Except that AFTER that happens, some First Order grunt appears and says they JUST confirmed that DJ was telling the truth. In other words, Phasma agreed to reward DJ without even making sure he was telling the truth?! I realize why this was done, because Rian cared more about having Finn say an important line than he did for whether the scene would make any sense. And of course, we have Finn and Rose. This might be just a personal preference, but there was no need for a romantic relationship to develop. It seriously came out of the blue and served no purpose. Plotwise, probably the thing that bugged me the most in this movie was Snoke's death. Given how they built him up to be such a menacing, powerful threat, it was a massive shame to see him go out like a chump. I mean, what the hell was the point of introducing him to begin with, if you're going to take him out like a sap. I'm not even against the idea of having Snoke die in this particular movie, but he should have made it way more satisfying. It's possible Rian wanted to make that battle more epic, but he blew the special fx budget on the fat alien with twelve boobs. And speaking of Snoke, how can I forget his utterly insipid dialogue right before Kylo kills him? Yes, that's right, go ahead and spell out exactly what Kylo is trying to do, but being vague enough that you can convince the audience that Kylo's going to do something that we can clearly not visually see. Seriously, I really hate Rian. Lastly, during the final confrontation between Luke and Kylo, Poe said something to the effect that Luke was doing this "for a reason", and he was trying to figure out why. He then assumes it's because he's trying to stall and give the rebels a chance to escape. Okay...why the hell is this even a question? Couldn't Luke just mention that to say, ANYONE of the dozens of people in the base before he stepped out so they don't waste time having to figure out what he's trying to do like as if the goddamned Riddler? Marvel humor: Oh yeah, you knew this was coming. I think I would add two points to this film if they just got rid of this poo poo and kept everything else. The humor was so damned out of place and just unnecessary. From the very first moment we see any dialogue on-screen, we have that cringeworthy scene between Poe and Hux. Ah, using the ole' "going to pretend I can't hear you on the intercom" gag, eh? Totally originally. And topping it off with a "yo mama" joke? Well, that is certainly a timeless quip that didn't go out of style when I was in middle school! And who can forget how Hux repeated Kylo's commands to other soldiers during the battle on Crate, resulting in a most amusing annoyed look on Kylo's face! Ho ho! Sure, the First Order is supposed to be an incredibly fearsome and brutal regime that's been involved in multiple acts of genocide, but isn't it nice that we have lovable goofballs like Hux to lighten the mood. Okay, that's enough of me being a Negative Nicky. Let's talk about the pluses: + Way more action: One thing the movie does better than TFA is that there is definitely a lot more action and excitement. If I could use one word to describe TFA, it would be boring. Sure, there were light sabers humming, blasters pew pewing, and planets blowing up, but somehow it didn't really maintain my interest. It just felt so dull and inconsequential. TLJ doesn't feel like that. It feels exciting and like there are actual stakes this time around. + Music: Not much to say here except that Williams still has it (well, at least for some tracks). If anyone can find me the theme for when Finn and Rose are captured and being marched in for their execution, I'll be your best friend. + Set pieces/crucial scenes: As I've already mentioned, I'm not a big fan of Rian's writing. However, I do think that he does seem to have an eye for what makes for a visually good scene. The fight between Rey/Kylo and Snoke's Praetorian Guard was great. With the set as a whole just looking so visually cool with the red drapery on the black, shining floor, and then the drapes burning up to make the room look like raining fire. There's also the scene where Holdo smashes the crusier into Snoke's ship, which is another very emotional, well done scene, and again, just visually looks drat cool. Then there's Luke facing the At-Ats with the sunset in the background, which I think will be a visual that will live on long after this movie. There's also the part where Luke confronts Kylo and when the latter asks Luke if he was going to forgive him, and the camera closes up on Luke's face, and he simply responds with a frustrated/annoyed "no". Absolutely perfect delivery, imo. The best lines in the movie, coincidentally are the succint ones. Brevity is the soul of wit, and all that, after all. And then we have in one sense, probably my favorite moment in the film. It's an incredibly short scene, but I just love it so much. It's when Luke stops in front of CPO, and just winks and walks away. It's such a simple, quick scene, but somehow it was also perfect. I like Star Wars, but I don't know if I'd call myself a "fan", but holy poo poo, that scene hit me in the goddamned gut like nothing else. Rian didn't ruin the moment with some dumbass, tryhard line or joke, and I'm thankful he was able to resist the urge. Overall, I enjoyed the movie. Quite a bit more than TFA, but I still think it's weak compared to the rest. Look, say what you want about Lucas (and Yoda knows I have), but while the man may be a terrible writer, obsessed with CG, and bad at giving direction to actors, he was also really good at world building, creating interesting locales and aliens, and exciting action sequences. The prequels may be bad, but I feel they're at least very entertaining. Whereas the new trilogy seems to not have anything particularly offensive or lol worthy quotes (minus the previously mentioned cringey Marvel humor), but very little worth remembering. They're competent, but unimpressive films. While TLJ impressed me in many areas, it also made me a bit more wary on what to expect from the final installment. Overall: 7/10
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Brad Young is a good cinematographer - but the question is what he's shooting. What we've got is basically Captain America 1 minus the 1940's pulp elements. What's the aesthetic? American Graffiti meets Oblivion? I dunno man, I'm just trying to be optimistic, Howard doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Though neither did Lord+Miller . . . TildeATH posted:I feel like Han Solo looks like a paunchy James Kirk. The Star Destroyer in the cloud looks good, the chase scene not so much and Lando’s sidekick looks CGI Jar Jar. Alden Ehrenreich pretty much steals the show in Hail, Caesar! casting has never been a problem for star wars. We know beforehand that the performances and dialogue will be cornball as hell; it's fantasy in space. Goofy sidekicks are a staple as well. Plot and theme are gonna be the potential torpedoes for this story, as they were for Awakens and Jedi. I'm hoping against hope for a Rogue One situation.
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Black Bones posted:American Graffiti meets Oblivion? I dunno man, I'm just trying to be optimistic, Howard doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Though neither did Lord+Miller . . . Yeah the new Star Wars have amazing casting and I assume he’s able to act but he looks so unsexy it’s hard to take him seriously. Harrison Ford was a heart throb, Han Solo wasn’t just witty he was sexy. TJ Hooker here looks like he could do the witty but not the sexy and I think that’s why everyone got so excited about an honest to God sexy Lando. But the Lando sidekick really gives me a Jar Jar Binks vibe.
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Jerkface posted:what about a robot doing landos salute off a jar jar vibe, idgi I mean, I guess it’s the part where it’s a junky looking robot doing a cheesy Lando Salute? Edit: I’m actually not trying to argue in bad faith, I just feel like the Lando Droid is unnecessary, kind of cheesy and made to cater to kids/toy buyers, which was my impression of Jar Jar. I’m sure it won’t have nearly the amount of screen time as the senator from Naboo who destroyed the Republic. TildeATH fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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The sole flaw of jar jar is that he's bumbling and has a bumbling use of language. Other than that Star Wars is rife with saucy side kicks and they're often executed quite well. If they stay away from bumbling fools they'll be just fine.
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Jar Jar Binks is a good character. Not as great as say, C3PO, but Goofy isn't as great as Donald Duck either.
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They should've gotten this guy to play Han. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bba_wPdLxp4
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CelticPredator posted:Can he act no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f33h8p9Bacc
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Ccs posted:They should've gotten this guy to play Han. Bleh. I’m not saying the guy has to look anything like Harrison Ford but he should be sexy and charismatic. But the current guy has such a small face on such a giant head I feel like I’m watching Sean Spicer cosplay as Han Solo.
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Mr Interweb posted:Overall: 7/10 I got 8/10 mainly because the humor worked for me. Well, I think it was jarring for the tone of the rest of the movie, but what they did put in was actually really funny. It shouldn't have been there IMO, but at least it was good stuff.
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harrison ford was someone swarthy, exotically sexy like sean connery. This new guy just looks like one of those mass-produced pasty jewish guys like was posted earlier.
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Wild Horses posted:harrison ford was someone swarthy, exotically sexy like sean connery. This new guy just looks like one of those mass-produced pasty jewish guys like was posted earlier. the implication there wasn't jewishness though it IS funny ehrenreich has a career because spielberg saw his bat mitzvah video
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R. Guyovich posted:the implication there wasn't jewishness though it IS funny ehrenreich has a career because spielberg saw his bat mitzvah video This is insanity.
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Wild Horses posted:harrison ford was someone swarthy, exotically sexy like sean connery. This new guy just looks like one of those mass-produced pasty jewish guys like was posted earlier. Hey maybe try not to sound anti-Semitic. Sean Spicer isn’t Jewish and he has the same tiny face on a giant head and young William Shatner was sexy af.
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Wild Horses posted:harrison ford was someone swarthy, exotically sexy like sean connery. This new guy just looks like one of those mass-produced pasty jewish guys like was posted earlier. Harrison Ford was also described as one of the worst kissers in Hollywood once a long ago. Mel Gibson the best. I kinda want a Hollywood Gossip Dish thread but like innocent drama poo poo.
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The only thing I’m worried about for the Han Solo movie is who the Jesus figure will be. Can anyone who knows about this sort of thing make some predictions please?
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Dr.Radical posted:The only thing I’m worried about for the Han Solo movie is who the Jesus figure will be. Can anyone who knows about this sort of thing make some predictions please? Chewbacca. Our wookie is bent, and we have bent him.
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Take with grain of salt but https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/news/belfast-to-join-star-wars-universe-as-spinoff-movie-comes-to-town-36591457.html quote:Belfast will be the centre of the Star Wars universe when the latest spin-off from the movie franchise is filmed there in 2019.
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I am totally ok with an Obi-Wan movie starring Ewan McGregor.
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Ingmar terdman posted:Between picking out the tank trooper helmet in R1, location scouting for another spinoff, and getting tapped to help with Solo, is George working his way back to the top of LFL? Was he getting coffee for Rian Johnson He's going to put on a black hoodie and proclaim "Order 69" whereby Daisy Ridley will murder every other Star Wars actor along with with every Disney shareholder, leaving Lucas in sole control.
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Dr.Radical posted:I am totally ok with an Obi-Wan movie starring Ewan McGregor. Biggest no-brainer of the franchise. He's a great character in both trilogies, and I feel like there's enough room in the gap between them for a few surprises.
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Jerkface posted:Take with grain of salt but Game of Thrones does a lot of filming here. Maybe this is what those guys are working on.
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When is Disney going to make a star war universe movie about a child and it's cute alien pet/droid sans war?
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