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Collateral Damage posted:The point is nostalgia. I know it's nostalgia. I just don't get the point of a Winamp player in your browser when typing "Winamp 2.x" gets you what you want on the first page of Google. It's not like we need DOS to run it or something. I'm also a sucker foe Winamp 5 just for the media library.
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I guess you can use browser-based WinAmp on non-Windows machines, maybe even phones?
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Mak0rz posted:Yeah 3 sucked. It sucked so bad that Nullsoft skipped 4 and went on to 5. I'm not sure what the logic behind that was. As I understand it, Winamp 5 is quite literally Winamp 2.92 with the skinning engine of Winamp 3 added as a plugin.
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Star Man posted:I know it's nostalgia. I just don't get the point of a Winamp player in your browser when typing "Winamp 2.x" gets you what you want on the first page of Google. It's not like we need DOS to run it or something. Have you ever done something for the fun of it Even if you haven't can you at least imagine someone doing so
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rndmnmbr posted:As I understand it, Winamp 5 is quite literally Winamp 2.92 with the skinning engine of Winamp 3 added as a plugin. Yup, 2+3=5, from what I remember.
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Feb 10, 2018 22:47
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5 had the browser thing. And I'd say the media library, but that technically was a plugin. I think both those things weren't present in 2.
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FilthyImp posted:Yup, 2+3=5, from what I remember. "It's so good that we skipped a version." Or something like that. I've been using Winamp 5 since at least 2008.
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Feb 10, 2018 23:20
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Anyone actually use something like this? There was a short window where they made sense, and I have only ever run across a couple of them in the wild. First time I saw one I had no idea what the hell I was looking at and had to research it.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Anyone actually use something like this? what the hell is that
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Randaconda posted:what the hell is that It basically let you use sticks of RAM as an SSD. There's a small battery that provides enough power to keep the storage persistent. It fits in a PCI slot and has a SATA connector so it maps like a regular drive. I've seen them both for DDR and DDR2, the latter allowing slightly more useful storage space. For whatever reason the box is showing the card unpopulated - picture those slots filled with desktop RAM. Once SSDs came down in price I think the whole concept made less sense.
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Randaconda posted:what the hell is that It’s a RAM drive. You load it up with DDR sticks and it presents to the system as a storage device. This one is SATA but later/better models used PCI‐e. You wouldn’t use it for long‐term storage (it’s volatile, for one), but it’s far faster than a platter drive as a scratch disk for Photoshop or whatever. Nowadays, SSDs exist and computers support slotting in more RAM directly, so RAM drives aren’t as hot.
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Feb 11, 2018 00:24
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It probably made more sense in 2005 because a lot of people were still running 32-bit operating systems and were hitting the limit.
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Remember ram disks? That's as old as DOS, but probably more useful/usable a few years after DOS' prime.
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Feb 11, 2018 00:34
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mystes posted:It probably made more sense in 2005 because a lot of people were still running 32-bit operating systems and were hitting the limit. ... the limit of RAM. This is a ram drive, totally different.
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TotalLossBrain posted:Remember ram disks? That's as old as DOS, but probably more useful/usable a few years after DOS' prime. Their heyday has passed, but if you do need a ramdisk, they're still a piece of cake to set up. It's a one-liner in Linux or Mac, and there are free utilities to do it in Windows. Could be useful, perhaps, if you have a program that insists on writing its temp stuff to files instead of just allocating more RAM. Trick it into doing it the fast way.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:... the limit of RAM.
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mystes posted:That is exactly what I was saying? Your post made it sound like you thought a RAM drive would increase the system RAM.
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I was saying that in 2005 people were hitting the limit for system ram on 32-bit operating systems so it made sense to work around that by using additional sticks of ram as hard drives via one of these devices even if it wasn't as performant, whereas without the limit on system ram it would make more sense to just use additional sticks of ram normally. Many programs are capable of working with data sets larger than system memory by reading/writing to external memory (disk), so it would still be possible to improve performance by using ram as a hard drive in many cases even if it would be less ideal than increasing system memory. mystes has a new favorite as of 05:29 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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TotalLossBrain posted:Remember ram disks? That's as old as DOS, but probably more useful/usable a few years after DOS' prime. My Amiga 1000 has a ramdrive icon that loads up with Workbench Man the days of janitoring 512kb of ram must’ve been rough
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Flipperwaldt posted:5 had the browser thing. And I'd say the media library, but that technically was a plugin. I think both those things weren't present in 2. 2.92 had everything 5 has except the skinning engine.
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mystes posted:It probably made more sense in 2005 because a lot of people were still running 32-bit operating systems and were hitting the limit. Plus ram was cheap back then and SSDs were in their infancy, had teething problems and were expensive
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Anyone actually use something like this? I have seen similar gadgets, but those were Vesa Local Bus. There were also VLB IDE controllers that supported 4(!) hard drives, I borrowed one of those with 2x1GB drives full of scene stuff and Linux Torrents. Pick and choose what to copy to my (then also large) Conner 540 MB.
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TheGreasyStrangler posted:My Amiga 1000 has a ramdrive icon that loads up with Workbench The Amiga RAM disk changed size automatically to fit the contents, so no janitoring was required. With DOS you had to decide ahead of time how big the RAM disk was going to be and then that RAM was unusable for anything else even if the RAM disk was empty.
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Sweevo posted:The Amiga RAM disk changed size automatically to fit the contents, so no janitoring was required. With DOS you had to decide ahead of time how big the RAM disk was going to be and then that RAM was unusable for anything else even if the RAM disk was empty. Amiga does what PC DOSn't.
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Was it just bad business decisions that led to Commodore crashing and burning so fast?
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I once set up a 512 K RAM drive on another computer and mounted it using LANtastic over a serial connection. Much to my surprise at the time, it wasn't super fast.
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Randaconda posted:Was it just bad business decisions that led to Commodore crashing and burning so fast? Piracy was a big factor as well. No-one's going to buy a computer with no new What I mean is you can get away with bad business decisions if you just ship hell of units all the time.
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Randaconda posted:Was it just bad business decisions that led to Commodore crashing and burning so fast? It was financed by a dodgey guy (irving gould?), and Jack Tramiel was commodore (as in driving it, but his way or the highway), but who eventually left to go to atari. Then things got toxic with irving and replacement ceos he hired to replace tramiel, and the engineers leaving because it was a ship without a captain. It only really survived as long as it did because it bought the amiga and the designers from another company - it was hosed before then because they pissed away the c64 success on losing projects until acquiring the amiga. Brian Bagnall wrote a good book about it called "On the Edge: The Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore" Fo3 has a new favorite as of 14:08 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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I encountered these today. The thread subtitle is now complete.
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Gonz posted:I encountered these today. The thread subtitle is now complete. check and see if they have some of those "dvd rewinders" nearby.
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Bookman’s is the best  And often has a decent amount of stuff that would fit in this thread.
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Humphreys posted:The death of Pay Toilets is strangely an interesting story: The resurgence of pay toilets is apparently an even more interesting one... I was curious what the exact ordinance was, so I looked into it, and for Ohio, it's 4101:1-29-02.6.2 of the Ohio Revised code. But apparently that section was repealed in 2007. Nik-o-Loc, the company that makes the locking doors for stalls, has apparently been lobbying states ever since the ban, and has been successful in getting many of them overturned. Can't wait for the Black Mirror Future where I've got to swipe my credit card or tap my phone to pay to unlock the restroom every time I need to go to the bathroom 
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OSU_Matthew posted:The resurgence of pay toilets is apparently an even more interesting one... I was curious what the exact ordinance was, so I looked into it, and for Ohio, it's 4101:1-29-02.6.2 of the Ohio Revised code. But apparently that section was repealed in 2007. Nik-o-Loc, the company that makes the locking doors for stalls, has apparently been lobbying states ever since the ban, and has been successful in getting many of them overturned. Your phone buzzes. It's a text from the pay toilet company. "We noticed you haven't visited us in a while! Use code POO4U at any Starbucks for a free medium coffee to get things moving again!"
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If there's a resurgence it would be interesting. I've never seen a pay toilet in Australia and the previous article said they disappeared from the US in the '70s. I saw a few in Europe in the 90s (stand alone in the middle of the street self cleaning booths), but seriously guys would piss anywhere and normally poo poo while on the clock or at home, so it would be women that would get inconvenienced mainly. Besides there's heaps more public toilets these days like shopping centres, major chain shops/markets/stations, bars, restaurants or even beaches/parks that would never lock the loo these days due to fear of offending customers/council/ratepayers etc. I can't see it ever working again unless main cbd, or only ma and pop stores, or main railway stations in the middle of the cbd - but there's always going to be a pub/bar nearby to the main cbd train or bus station for obvious reasons, which would never install them because it would annoy their regulars.
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I just love the idea of pooping my pants while trying to register on a pay toilet phone app.
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Casimir Radon posted:I just love the idea of pooping my pants while trying to register on a pay toilet phone app. We’ve just sent you a confirmation email. Sometimes these can get backed up so check your spam folder!
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Swedish McDonald’s used to have pay toilets. Also blue light for making veins less visible.
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axolotl farmer posted:Swedish McDonald’s used to have pay toilets.
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*pays a dollar to take a dump* Restroom 1 is really good value!
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This is my favorite shitter on the station.
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