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BioEnchanted posted:Despite all the jokes about it I always found Everybody Loves Raymond to be OK - it had some kinda sweet moments, like when Raymond calls out his parents on never giving Robert any praise for what he does, him being a cop, despite it being really dangerous and brave of him to be doing so, and they admit that the reason that they do that it because they know how dangerous it is - they have to face every day knowing that their son may not come home that day, and it terrifies them so they focus of Raymond's relatively safe career as a sports writer so that they don't have to think about it. It's a selfish reasoning, but an understandable one, even though it's emotionally draining for Robert. It had its moments. I don’t think it’s as bad as many modern sitcoms. One character that was well done was the passive aggressive mother. Unless you have someone like that in your family, it’s hard to appreciate the nuance that she put into the role. I’d like to see classic movie scenes remade with vaping instead of smoking. Imagine Humphrey Bogart making big clouds of strawberry smelling steam.
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Leavemywife posted:It's kind of weird watching older stuff and seeing characters smoking. I was born in '91, so I can kind of remember this point where it was going out the window, but it was also visual shorthand for someone being a badass. Like Wolverine, Spike Spiegel, John McClane, the Cigarette Smoking Man, etc. I feel like it's also a thing in "kid adventure" movies from the 80s like Monster Squad where the cool kid smoked (usually after lighting a match by striking it on the sole of his shoe).
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Krispy Wafer posted:The writing can be good despite itself. There is a lot of talent going into something that appeals to the lowest common denominator. http://z2solutions.com/demographics/big-bang-theory-audience-demographics/
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Raymond is a good example of a show that I can appreciate even if it's not my cup of tea. Like, I can see how people like it and think it's funny. Friends is another one. I don't like it but I get why someone might. Big Bang is just awful. Someone post a Youtube clip of a good BBT joke.
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oldpainless posted:BBT is like nickelback in that apparently no one likes it or watches it but it’s still super mega popular and profitable mysteriously somehow. This is every CBS show. Like NCIS is apparently the most popular show on television but I’ve never met a single person who watches it. I don’t know if every Nielsen home is populated by old people who fall asleep with the TV on of what.
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NCIS is one of my parents' favourite programmes but it's also the favourite of my younger sister, who is 18 and rates Mark Harmon as one of her gold standards of handsomeness.
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Feb 11, 2018 15:54
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BiggerBoat posted:Raymond is a good example of a show that I can appreciate even if it's not my cup of tea. Like, I can see how people like it and think it's funny. Friends is another one. I don't like it but I get why someone might. Raymond was poo poo. I don't know how that show lasted as long as it did. Like King of Queens.
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Raymond is a good show. It's not up to the level of Fraiser, but it's aged fine for a sitcom and doesn't deserve scorn. Well gently caress, everyone may not love Raymond, but everyone loves Sheldon across a broad demographic range.
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I sort of grew to like BBT. At first, I hated it because it showed nerdy university people being broken and barely functional people, but as the show goes on it actually sort of redeems most of the people just by showing them to be socially awkward, but understandable people with weird interests. It also has tremendously helped to popularize people working in the different fields of science, and science in general; this is always needed. Similarly with the Mythbusters, it shows how things can work and how different things can be tested with experimentation. Some turbo-nerds hated the original MB simply because "its not proper science" etc., but gently caress me if it isn't entertaining show explaining the things and scientific principles to the common people. There is a reason why they do skip showing the 500 separate laboratory tests with minimal differences, I know that they *did* that sometimes behind the scenes. The general principle of conducting a proof-of-concept experiment, and if anything in it works, then try to work the rest of the kinks. And rest is just statistics and book-keeping and writing the whitepapers and/or submitting patents.
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BiggerBoat posted:Raymond is a good example of a show that I can appreciate even if it's not my cup of tea. Like, I can see how people like it and think it's funny. Friends is another one. I don't like it but I get why someone might. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6BytoERJAY Just the first few seconds.
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Solice Kirsk posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6BytoERJAY Oh, my God, how much they've aged.
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Solice Kirsk posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6BytoERJAY I remember when Seinfeld did that, but funnier.
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BiggerBoat posted:We found him! It's extra good for them because when they say their son is just like one of the characters, they get to imply they're doing some science stuff and not IT or whatever.
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As goons and autistic gamers, we can all identify with this clip am I right my friends https://youtu.be/a91T8MdXXMc
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oldpainless posted:As goons and autistic gamers, we can all identify with this clip am I right my friends 
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oldpainless posted:As goons and autistic gamers, we can all identify with this clip am I right my friends Honestly I thought Amy worked as a strong contrast to Sheldon, so kind of liked her character - when she was first introduced she was just Sheldon with 2 X chromosomes, but she grew as a person and came out of her shell when encouraged by Penny and Bernadette and her subsequent furious, frustrated withering sarcasm worked as a nice counterpoint to Sheldon's obnoxiousness while allowing her to still be earnest about her obscure hobbies with her new friends, even if often overdoing it.
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hawowanlawow posted:ncis makes csi look like true detective Thanks to USA Network being the standard TV choice for the laundromat I worked in for years, I caught way too many episodes of NCIS. I swear, 4 out of 5 episodes has the murder victim they investigate be Petty Officers.
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The funny thing about the NCIS TV show is that the real life thing has pretty much no powers at all. The show has them running around arresting people all over the place just because the crime tangentially involved the Navy but (IIRC) they only have jurisdiction on Navy bases and can't do poo poo elsewhere. Kind of like CSI where they made up this idea that crime scene techs carry guns and arrest people.
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muscles like this! posted:Kind of like CSI where they made up this idea that crime scene techs carry guns and arrest people. There's one amusing bit in an episode of Law & Order (possibly in SVU) where the detectives complain about CSIs thinking they're cops.
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NCIS has an "Israeli" character that sounds nothing like one, and I will never forgive them for it.
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So I just rewatched Beavis and Butthead from the beginning to the end over the last 10 weeks or so. Some of it has aged extremely well. 50% of their interactions with women result in them having the poo poo kicked out of them for sexual harassment, often by the women themselves: the most biting part of the whole thing is that they never learn their lesson. Butthead will walk up to a woman, grab her with a "hey baby...", get cranked in the face, and go ahead and try it again with another woman 10 seconds later, with more or less the same result, which is a pretty apt representation. The show is pretty clear that B&B aren't supposed to get full sympathy, so most of their atrocious behaviour doesn't represent some kind of endorsement. The music video segments are the best 90s time capsule out there. Pretty much every other 90s show (Friends or Seinfeld, eg) gives an idealized and/or sanitized version of the period, or mostly exists out of time (The Simpsons or South Park). Beavis and Butthead manages to preserve the good, the bad, and the weird instead of just cherry-picking high profile and popular stuff that survived the intervening decades. E.g. they watch a Pantera video, and after about 20 seconds of "yes! This rocks!" at the beginning, they sit silent for 10 seconds and Butthead remarks "uhh... there sure are a lot of dudes in this video." Some of it has aged very poorly, particularly the other 50% of Beavis and Buttheads's interactions with women. There are several scenes in which Beavis and Butthead just sexually harass women for laughs with no consequences or comeuppance whatsoever. One of the episodes in season 7 has them using a mirror to look up an oblivious woman's skirt, and they don't even end up with a piece of glass jammed into one of their hands or anything. The Todd character is pretty wrapped up in this kind of stuff too.
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And extra-judicially knife-fight their wife’s murderer to death on top of a Brazilian mountain.
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Torquemada posted:And extra-judicially knife-fight their wife’s murderer to death on top of a Brazilian mountain. It's ok he really cares about kids
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CommonShore posted:Some of it has aged extremely well. 50% of their interactions with women result in them having the poo poo kicked out of them for sexual harassment, often by the women themselves: the most biting part of the whole thing is that they never learn their lesson.
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BiggerBoat posted:Big Bang is just awful. Someone post a Youtube clip of a good BBT joke. BBT led to this happening, does that count https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIu_6u0VlwU
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Erebus posted:BBT led to this happening, does that count Somebody didn't do their homework. 
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I really like Prairie Fires. The Little House books and TV show were always interesting to me. It seemed like a fairy tale world. My third grade class also did a unit on pioneers around the time I read those books and I've always liked history. A lot of what I learned about pioneers seemed really whitewashed in hindsight. We barely knew about First Nations people except that they were one with nature. I grew up in Canada and First Nations education seemed ignored right up until Grade 10. We learned about smallpox blankets and residential schools then. I didn't even know Stanley Park was once inhabited by First Nations until a year ago. At least in British Columbia they are trying to teach more First Nations history and culture in schools now. My education did not age well. Also, are there any more books like Prairie Fires that are about the real histories behind pop culture?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Somebody didn't do their homework. I just have to look good. I don't have to be clear.
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Wheat Loaf posted:NCIS is one of my parents' favourite programmes but it's also the favourite of my younger sister, who is 18 and rates Mark Harmon as one of her gold standards of handsomeness. Makes sense. I watched a few episodes of Two Broke Girls solely because of Kat Dennings before I had to give it up because holy poo poo what a black hole of unfunny.
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Choco1980 posted:Thanks to USA Network being the standard TV choice for the laundromat I worked in for years, I caught way too many episodes of NCIS. I swear, 4 out of 5 episodes has the murder victim they investigate be Petty Officers. I'm pretty sure that's accurate? Most people in the navy that i know want to murder at least one petty officer.
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Don Gato posted:I'm pretty sure that's accurate? Most people in the navy that i know want to murder at least one petty officer. My point was that it was almost always a petty officer's murder that was the case of the week, when there was room for so many other ranks to get murdered.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Somebody didn't do their homework. I mean, nobody who does red carpet interviews does their homework. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBi87TU_Duw
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Choco1980 posted:My point was that it was almost always a petty officer's murder that was the case of the week, when there was room for so many other ranks to get murdered. Petty Officers are the Harry Kims of the US Navy. They're there for bad things to happen to them.
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Don Gato posted:I'm pretty sure that's accurate? Most people in the navy that i know want to murder at least one petty officer. It's usually Chiefs tbh
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Torquemada posted:And extra-judicially knife-fight their wife’s murderer to death on top of a Brazilian mountain. I love when these crime scene show plots sound like Metal Gear boss fights.
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BiggerBoat posted:Big Bang is just awful. Someone post a Youtube clip of a good BBT joke. The delivery of this joke is really clunky, but the actual joke itself isn't bad and is actually a pretty good jab at nerd culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZF79Eyp_2A I've watched a few episodes of this against my will, and this is literally the only actual joke I saw on the show.
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CommonShore posted:The music video segments are the best 90s time capsule out there. Pretty much every other 90s show (Friends or Seinfeld, eg) gives an idealized and/or sanitized version of the period, or mostly exists out of time (The Simpsons or South Park). Beavis and Butthead manages to preserve the good, the bad, and the weird instead of just cherry-picking high profile and popular stuff that survived the intervening decades. E.g. they watch a Pantera video, and after about 20 seconds of "yes! This rocks!" at the beginning, they sit silent for 10 seconds and Butthead remarks "uhh... there sure are a lot of dudes in this video." Beavis and Butthead are all around a great time capsule for the 90's even without the music videos. They'd be about 2 or 3 years older than me, so it was a decent enough representation of what high school was like. Some of my favorite bits were when they were watching TV, because drat if that wasn't an accurate representation of what garbage was on TV in the mid 90's CommonShore posted:The Todd character is pretty wrapped up in this kind of stuff too. Todd is a straight up villain, sure B&B look up to him and want to be just like him but all their interactions with him are unpleasant.
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