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Automatic Slim posted:There's was a rumor floating around that the new Star Trek series would be an anthology like American Crime/Horror Story. Seems unlikely now but this reboot could use a reboot. Honestly if anything I'd love to see a Star Wars series in that format.
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Everything about Burnham just seems written to be awful schizoprhenic plot device. She's not vulcan, she's not human, she's not logical, she's not passionate, she doesn't care about anyone or anything, except for apparently being temporarily right in whatever moment. We want to go from one set piece to another, just have burnham decide that's the only thing she cares about now and have her do it in the most dangerous way possible.
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Feb 12, 2018 12:45
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Smythe posted:idk why they made this super cool high tech looking and high tech in universe tech ship with all this cool new poo poo and it spins around and poo poo and does all this fancy crap and set it in the drat past. how come? wtf? woulda made more sense for it to be.. in the .. future. Soon, we will all be living in the future
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Feb 12, 2018 12:52
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The best part of that is Neelix looking to his subconscious for an answer and getting outright told "kill yourself, pussy". I adore these reinterpretations of Voyager episodes.
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Feb 12, 2018 13:11
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Can someone give a plot synopsis? Don't want to read through the live watch
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Feb 12, 2018 13:54
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Can someone give a plot synopsis? Don't want to read through the live watch I'll try to do it from memory best I can. The crew go to the Klingon homeworld and have some plan to take out some major military targets. However, Mirror Georgiou's plan (and this has Starfleet approval) is to blow up some sort of explosive deep in the planets core, thus triggering a bajillion volcanoes and poo poo, loving up the planet royally. Burnham stops her and comes up with a solution. She gives the detonator for the bomb to Klingon lady. Klingon lady meets with the Klingon houses and gives them an ultimatum: End the war, unite, make me leader, or I nuke the planet. Also Mirror Georgiou is given her freedom and she disappears so I assume we'll see her later. Discovery goes back to Earth and everyone gets awards. Burnham gets her commission and rank restored. The Discovery makes way to Vulcan with Sarek to get their new captain. They pick up a distress signal from the Enterprise (Captain Pike commanding) and we get to see the ship. I thought it wasn't that bad. I'm wondering if we'll actually get to see Pike and Spock in the S2 premiere or if that was just a fan service moment.
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Feb 12, 2018 14:04
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I said it elsewhere, that should be Captain Robert April
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Feb 12, 2018 14:10
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That finale was unbelievably trashy. Obviously there are a lot of issues with the dialogue and the plot, and thematically the whole series is pretty much cribbed from the new movies, but Disco's real offence is that the tone is all wrong. Hilarious ideas are being played completely straight. It's bizarre.
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Feb 12, 2018 14:12
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I said it elsewhere, that should be Captain Robert April I think with the established timeline, it had to be Pike.
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Feb 12, 2018 14:23
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revolther posted:Everything about Burnham just seems written to be awful schizoprhenic plot device. She's not vulcan, she's not human, she's not logical, she's not passionate, she doesn't care about anyone or anything, except for apparently being temporarily right in whatever moment. We want to go from one set piece to another, just have burnham decide that's the only thing she cares about now and have her do it in the most dangerous way possible.
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Feb 12, 2018 14:25
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Jose Oquendo posted:I think with the established timeline, it had to be Pike. I thought he came later. How long was the Enterprise tooling around?
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Feb 12, 2018 14:31
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I thought he came later. How long was the Enterprise tooling around? This is from Memory Alpha: 2245: Enterprise makes maiden voyage with April in command. Before 2254: Pike takes command of Enterprise (Discovery takes place in 2256) Around 2265: Kirk takes command of Enterprise and goes on 5 year mission.
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Feb 12, 2018 14:44
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drat that's an old rear end ship
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Feb 12, 2018 15:02
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Gene Roddenberry envisioned the Enterprise as a ship with history. Star Trek III made reference to the ship's age and got it wrong. It was much older.
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Feb 12, 2018 15:08
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Al Borland Corp. posted:drat that's an old rear end ship Star Trek 3 takes place in the year 2285 so it would have been around 40 years old when decommissioned.
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Feb 12, 2018 15:10
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Yeah and the brass that Kirk talks to said it was only 25 years old. There were a few inconsistencies in that movie. New franchises aren't the only ones that screw up with canon. Sometimes the originals do it themselves.
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Feb 12, 2018 15:18
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You forgot the most significant part of the episode; ending credit theme was the original TOS ending theme. Also I chuckled with the "last time on Star Trek Discovery" voiceover was in Klingon with subs. The klingon conclusion stuff felt incredibly week and dumb. You can add "Remember that one time the unstoppable Klingon armada warped to the edge of the Sol system and then spend several hours very slowly approaching earth, only to be stopped when the klingon racial purest called everyone back to Kronos (too lazy to look up the dumb spelling) at the last second or she'd blow up the planet?" to the list of really awkward things i guess no one chooses to bring up again for the next 300 years. On the plus side, if the lame rear end conclusion to the klingon war means no more klingons for awhile then it's worth it for that.
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Feb 12, 2018 15:56
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Automatic Slim posted:There was a rumor floating around that the new Star Trek series would be an anthology like American Crime/Horror Story. Seems unlikely now but this reboot could use a reboot. I'm still waiting for the 24th century family sitcom. The family can joke about how bad the mom is at programming the replicator, the kids can get stuck in a turbolift on their way to school, and the dad always beams into the living room exhausted after a tough day at the office. And yes, there will be a laugh track.
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Feb 12, 2018 17:09
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You're all crazy. Binge the Disco and tell me again that Burnham was emotionless throughout. As for the exterior ship lighting comments on the Ent showing-up, it's lit by natural light sources and not somehow brightly lit from all sides and angles like the previous effects work done. Looks sweet as hell, imho.
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Feb 12, 2018 17:24
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So the war is over? Or will they do an Apocalypse Rising style ceasefire that gets broken when a bunch of klingons decide to attack a medical colony like in Nor the Battle to the Strong?
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Feb 12, 2018 17:35
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SpeakSlow posted:You're all crazy. Binge the Disco and tell me again that Burnham was emotionless throughout. All her emotions were delivered in the same narrow band range of emoting. Her vocal tone going through the series was a single narrow corridor with tense on the left and grit-teeth angry on the right most limit. That's not the fault of the actress but the fault of the lovely show's idea that she be a vulcan-raised vulca-boo ala worf because they apparently couldn't think of a way to get the show off the ground without lots of Vulcan Mind Magic.
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Feb 12, 2018 17:43
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Tricky D posted:I'm still waiting for the 24th century family sitcom. The family can joke about how bad the mom is at programming the replicator, the kids can get stuck in a turbolift on their way to school, and the dad always beams into the living room exhausted after a tough day at the office. And yes, there will be a laugh track. I think you're looking for The Jetsons
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Feb 12, 2018 17:44
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simplefish posted:I think you're looking for The Jetsons Query: If CBS Television Studios had merely re-ran the original run of the Jetsons instead of STD, would that have been an improvement to the franchise?
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Feb 12, 2018 17:48
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simplefish posted:I think you're looking for The Jetsons Lol.. true.
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Feb 12, 2018 17:50
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shadow puppet of a posted:All her emotions were delivered in the same narrow band range of emoting. Her vocal tone going through the series was a single narrow corridor with tense on the left and grit-teeth angry on the right most limit. That's not the fault of the actress but the fault of the lovely show's idea that she be a vulcan-raised vulca-boo ala worf because they apparently couldn't think of a way to get the show off the ground without lots of Vulcan Mind Magic. Excuse me. Worf wasn't even a Klingaboo. Dax is the ultimate Klingaboo. Burnham is a bad Vulcaboo even, she doesn't even have the haircut or fake ears. I watched the Finale just now. The Nostalgia Grab was really stupid.
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Feb 12, 2018 17:50
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Excuse me. Worf wasn't even a Klingaboo. Dax is the ultimate Klingaboo. Jazdia is an interesting klingaboo because of Kurzon's relationship with Kor and such. Ezri is like "I get why Kurzon and Jazdia liked Klingons but your culture is kinda bullshit fam"
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Feb 12, 2018 18:43
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I enjoyed Ezri talking poo poo about the Klingon Empire and doing such a good job of it that it convinces Worf that the Empire is corrupt garbage.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:05
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Ezri discussing the failings of the Klingon Empire would have been way more prescient if Discovery took place post-ds9. Instead she's just spouting a history lesson thanks to Discovery's place in the timeline.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:11
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if i am reading right, according to discovery, the klingons conquer like most of the federation?
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Feb 12, 2018 19:14
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I thought they said "occupy 20% of federation space" or something
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Feb 12, 2018 19:15
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i only read the plot synopses and the one i read implied everything was conquered or wiped out except earth and some starbase
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Feb 12, 2018 19:16
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Mulaney Power Move posted:if i am reading right, according to discovery, the klingons conquer like most of the federation? Al Borland Corp. posted:I thought they said "occupy 20% of federation space" or something It's kind of both. One episode ends with a pretty apocalyptic war map and a character saying they can't hail Starfleet HQ, and then the very next episode an Admiral comes aboard and says they've only conquered 20% of federation space. But then again, the season finale has a bunch of bird of preys just chilling near Earth's moon waiting to strike, so who the gently caress knows.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:17
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Mulaney Power Move posted:if i am reading right, according to discovery, the klingons conquer like most of the federation? Yes. No one ever mentions this ever again in any of the star trek shows. "Hey, remember that time half the Federation was conquered by kingons?"
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Feb 12, 2018 19:18
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i'd be embarrassed too if my space federation was conquered by two dicked space monsters from beyond the moon
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Feb 12, 2018 19:21
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I love how any old battle with lovely models was more expansive and portrayed actual war more than the CGI-fest ST:D was. They copped out of ALL Big Space Battles. The Conclusion to this season lacked one. The Binary Stars Battle was lackluster. The budget must be tiny and all spend on the Kelpian Makeup.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:23
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Tilly is adorable. Somebody tells her that her hair is hideous and she's not even insulted. For a minute I totally thought that Orion dude was going to enslave her, glad he was just trying to steal he poo poo. Wouldn't want the show to get too dark.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:26
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:The budget must be tiny and all spend on the Kelpian Makeup. Saru is worth it.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:26
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wait until you see saru piss
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Feb 12, 2018 19:37
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saru pissing is like the massage setting on a shower head
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you're not being creative enough -- it comes out as a fine mist.
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