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Feb 12, 2018 18:40
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The problem with calling it an allied list instead of an imperial soup list is that the former doesn't convey contempt. Many of the people who talk about imperial soup want to make it clear every time they reference it that they hate it, and a neutral word like allied just isn't suited to purpose.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:41
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DiHK posted:DANGER CLOSE! A Leman Russ shooting itself in the rear end will never not be hilarious to me.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:41
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:It's nothing to do with being serious about the game or strategy, i dislike the method of their creation, and utterly despise the opacity and insularity their use creates. Running into a wall of unexplained buzzwords and unnecessary abbreviations when you're trying to read about any subject is loving miserable, and it's something that absolutely plagues online ham chat. Consider buying some actual bubblewrap; popping the bubbles is a good way to chill out, which might help you. Bublewrap is a perfect word for what it does. lmao military jargon.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:45
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We use soup to differentiate a detachment that does not get obsec/stragems/other bonuses and not as an allied mixed force of separate detachment or whatever. But yeah cry more colloquial terms in the community. That way leads to good discussion. I played with the new jetbike dudes This weekend. They are pretty sick. Also the sang guard brick is pretty good. I don't know if the banner for a 5++ is all that good even with 60 dudesmen but it was fun to try out.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:50
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Call me old fashioned, but I remember a time when to play two allied armies fighting an epic battle you had to be pleasant enough have a friend to team up with you. Three detachments of different sub factions of the same larger army in the same list is trash for bad people, hth. A really cool idea for Narrative games for sure, but awful in Competitive.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:51
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Lord_Hambrose posted:U Mad??? I have a massive, glistening, rage boner right now.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:54
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I have a massive, glistening, rage boner right now. Try the bubblewrap.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:59
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:It's nothing to do with being serious about the game or strategy, i dislike the method of their creation, and utterly despise the opacity and insularity their use creates. Running into a wall of unexplained buzzwords and unnecessary abbreviations when you're trying to read about any subject is loving miserable, and it's something that absolutely plagues online ham chat. that's a good point, but it's not like it is difficult for new players to get info on tactics, strategies, or general game info. and to point, words like bubblewrap and soup aren't exactly counter-intuitive in their meaning. i'm with you on abbreviations and acronyms, though. that poo poo always gets me confused.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:08
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Mango Polo posted:Try the bubblewrap. I did but there wasn't enough bubblewrap to fill it.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:13
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I personally recite a 9-line each time I shoot my CAS Hemlock or Crimson Hunter. But seriously, the most annoying element to me is faux or real military terms being appropriated inappropriately by smug lords.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:13
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Even worse is the grognard Tau players having a loving codename for every drat loadout. Fireknife vs Deathstorm vs Hotscrote vs ...
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Feb 12, 2018 19:18
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People that take critiques of a game they like as personal attacks are weird
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Feb 12, 2018 19:21
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So... I want to convert a Skyrunner Autarch using an old Howling Banshee head, some Dire Avenger bits, a Farseer Skyrunner bike, and some Windriders bits. In order to make it actually look like an HQ I'll need to green stuff some robes and maybe a few gems... I've never done that. Anyone have any tips?
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Feb 12, 2018 19:22
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Naramyth posted:I played with the new jetbike dudes This weekend. They are pretty sick. Also the sang guard brick is pretty good. I don't know if the banner for a 5++ is all that good even with 60 dudesmen but it was fun to try out. Yeah, I can't really see any real use for the 5++ banner. Most guys you'd want to have a 5++ already have a 2+ or 3+ save, which is equal to or better than a 5++ except against AP3/4/5. Unless you're playing against Harlies, you're not going to get that many melta shots on you Sanguinary Guard. Even for Guardsmen and Conscripts, the banner only protects you against AP2 stuff when you're in cover, and who shoots AP2 at Guardsmen? Glad to see you have success with Sanguinary Guard when you drop them in five by five.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:22
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dexefiend posted:Even worse is the grognard Tau players having a loving codename for every drat loadout. As a Dark Angels player please allow me to explain Wangwing to you. It involves popping yourself out in the gaming store. Play like you have a pair indeed.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:24
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Community buzzwords ultimately say "I belong in this community" more than it says anything about whatever your talking about. Military enthusiasts are huge on this, but it's common to everything else people like to nerd out over. I mean, it's still preferable to quoting Emperor text to speech or Rick and Morty, but it's tedious when there's an alternate commonplace term. When someone corrects "clip" with a smug "magazine" or drops MMO speak in a regular conversation, what they're really saying is that they care a lot about that thing.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:27
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moths posted:When someone corrects "clip" with a smug "magazine"
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Feb 12, 2018 19:39
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Orwell - Politics and the English Language
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Feb 12, 2018 19:42
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Are we really talking and moaning about jargon and language here? 8th has spoiled you all. Once upon a time we had to remember multiple stat vs stat grids. The difference between a super heavy flyer and a flyer. Charging into close combat against Eldar was mostly pointless. Entire armies could be gimped if you rolled the poo poo psychic powers or warlord traits. Pre-deployment rolling for Thousand Sons could take ages. Weapons that worked against vehicles wouldn’t against monstrous creatures or vice versa. Certain armies had zero access to the best ranged weapon type in the game. AP was binary. My cultists couldn’t hurt certain things at all. Deep strike rules. The entire Ork Codex. Free upgrades if you were Ad Mech or Space Marines. And here you are, whining about a convenient method of referring to a particular army build style. You don’t deserve 8th. On another note, has anyone had chance to field a Mutalith Vortex Beast yet? I’m somewhat tempted to proxy a Maulerfiend as one. I can’t face adding another big kit to the backlog, especially pre FAQ. Suspect it will be nerfed fairly hard in one way or another.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:43
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Groetgaffel posted:The best thing to do in this situation is to start saying "clipazine". The actual best thing is actually to look at them like they're a moron and then keep saying clip.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:43
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Groetgaffel posted:The best thing to do in this situation is to start saying "clipazine". 
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Feb 12, 2018 19:55
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Corrode posted:Luv2be chill and casual and also weirdly aggressive about people who don't play by my own artificial rules Safety Factor posted:I am glad I have only ever played with and against mono-faction armies. It cuts down on a lot of bullshit. Even the people in here writing lists with OPTIMAL chapter tactics for specific units is a step too far for me. I am well aware that such forces could exist and are justified by the fluff, but not for me. I think a mixed force loses narrative cohesion.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:59
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So it sure has been two weeks since they announced new 40k stuff, huh
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Feb 12, 2018 20:06
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Warhammer 40,000: Casual Bubblewrap Soup Chat Maybe everyone should just play the game however they find fun and stop bitching about how others have fun. You love the game, be happy that it's attracting a variety of play styles and not everyone has fun the same way so chill the gently caress out like goddamn y'all.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:08
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Safety Factor posted:Look at what I said: Ok I'm really confused. My post that you originally quoted was in response to DancingShade, whose post it directly follows. You seem to think it was in response to you and I don't really know why, it's like 14 hours and half a page later.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:09
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Milotic posted:Are we really talking and moaning about jargon and language here? 8th has spoiled you all. Once upon a time we had to remember multiple stat vs stat grids. The difference between a super heavy flyer and a flyer. Charging into close combat against Eldar was mostly pointless. Entire armies could be gimped if you rolled the poo poo psychic powers or warlord traits. Pre-deployment rolling for Thousand Sons could take ages. Weapons that worked against vehicles wouldn’t against monstrous creatures or vice versa. Certain armies had zero access to the best ranged weapon type in the game. AP was binary. My cultists couldn’t hurt certain things at all. Deep strike rules. The entire Ork Codex. Free upgrades if you were Ad Mech or Space Marines. For sure, 8thed making warhammer playable has cut down on stuff people can gripe about  I wonder if we're going to see new Tau stuff, since they've already hinted at the Imperium going back to war with them. Not entirely sure how it would be justified with Gulliman being fine with an Eldar alliance, since Tau are way less aggressive towards humans than them. High lords of terra politicks?
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Feb 12, 2018 20:11
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"Casual" is the best way to play. I don't mean you should run sub-par lists or take it easy on your opponent or have weird arbitrary comp rules, just that you should be casual in the sense that you don't give a poo poo about the outcome. It loving rules and it makes the game way more fun.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:12
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ANAmal.net posted:"Casual" is the best way to play. I don't mean you should run sub-par lists or take it easy on your opponent or have weird arbitrary comp rules, just that you should be casual in the sense that you don't give a poo poo about the outcome. It loving rules and it makes the game way more fun. This guy gets it and by "gets it" I mean "gets completely rekt in every game he plays like a loser bitch"
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Feb 12, 2018 20:13
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TheChirurgeon posted:This guy gets it True, but see, this is the genius of it: I don't even care. 40k is just a cool reason to paint mans and talk poo poo at dweebs, and I couldn't even tell you my W-L record because it doesn't matter. Like I know it's 0-?, because the 0 wins is mad obvious, but if it were any other number? Whatever, I played a quantity of games, and that's all I need to know.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:20
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ANAmal.net posted:True, but see, this is the genius of it: I don't even care. 40k is just a cool reason to paint mans and talk poo poo at dweebs, and I couldn't even tell you my W-L record because it doesn't matter. Like I know it's 0-?, because the 0 wins is mad obvious, but if it were any other number? Whatever, I played a quantity of games, and that's all I need to know. Didn't you literally post ITT about how you got so mad playing you thought you should quit altogether
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Feb 12, 2018 20:21
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Corrode posted:Didn't you literally post ITT about how you got so mad playing you thought you should quit altogether hey maybe shut the gently caress up and stop being an rear end in a top hat
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Feb 12, 2018 20:22
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Corrode posted:Didn't you literally post ITT about how you got so mad playing you thought you should quit altogether That doesn't sound like something I would do.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:25
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6/7th Ed was a poo poo show. 8th is great. Soup is fine. Bubble wrap is both good for transporting miniatures and protecting them. People are terrible and will suck the fun out of everything. I like playing toy solders and painting them. So what, me worry?
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Feb 12, 2018 20:36
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Call me old fashioned, but I remember a time when to play two allied armies fighting an epic battle you had to be pleasant enough have a friend to team up with you. Call me older fashioned, but... 
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Feb 12, 2018 20:38
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Corrode posted:Ok I'm really confused. My post that you originally quoted was in response to DancingShade, whose post it directly follows. You seem to think it was in response to you and I don't really know why, it's like 14 hours and half a page later.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:41
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"Soup" is fine. "Bubble wrap" is fine. All the other silly little names people come up with to describe various configurations or whatever are fine. It's no different than joking about "small, jewel like objects of magic and wonder" or Matt Ward's obsession with murdering Sisters of Battle. Cultures come with their own set of terms and ways of defining themselves as a way to establish identity; this dead gay comedy forum is no different.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:41
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Naramyth posted:Just the ones that are unlocked in other detachments. So all of them. Nope. Ynnari is explicitly excluded from the stuff in the craftworlds codex and the drukhari and harlequin entries in chapter approved.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:47
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Boon posted:I personally recite a 9-line each time I shoot my CAS Hemlock or Crimson Hunter. This actually made me laugh.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:48
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Safety Factor posted:Because the post at the top of the page (two above yours) was quoting mine so it was clearly still relevant to the discussion. Then I saw the whole "casuals!" thing and I figured I'd poke a bit. Now here we are. Oh I missed that. I'm not really bothered if people want to play in their own little bubbles and impose whatever rules they want, there's tons of dudes doing that and it's nothing to do with me. I'm specifically addressing people who self describe as "casual" but are anything but, since they're heavily invested in the game and just as obsessive about competitive play as anyone else, just in a funhouse mirror way where they're weirdly angry about how other people play the game. It's the guy with 10,000 Dakka posts raging about whatever the hot build of the day is for years on end, not the guys who play at my local who've been friends since they were 8 and only play each other and have no interest at all in "the meta" or whatever else.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:49
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