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Proteus Jones posted:Almost certainly CO2 buildup. They increase the percentage with every breath. It’s basically slow suffocation and it terrifies me about as much as burning to death. Yeah that's about as horrifying as sailors who end up trapped in compartments of sinking ships. Sitting there slowly watching certain death approach. I'm guessing suicide wasn't uncommon 
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In certain situations suicide or a buddy to shoot you in the face are the best options. And that's unnerving.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Honestly, beats drowning, burning, shot, shrapnelled, starvation, thirst, or sinking until pressure murders you imo. At the same time, it's terrifying how easy it's to assemble a hypoxia kit for any suicidal person.
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Feb 13, 2018 01:31
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Proteus Jones posted:Almost certainly CO2 buildup. They increase the percentage with every breath. It’s basically slow suffocation and it terrifies me about as much as burning to death. What needs to be stressed is that your body is built to resist CO2 build up, it knows you are dying, and is making you suffer in hopes of finding an oxygen source. It's not a calm death at all, like what you would experience from breathing in a thin stratospheric atmosphere with low CO2 concentration.
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Feb 13, 2018 01:34
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah that's about as horrifying as sailors who end up trapped in compartments of sinking ships. Sitting there slowly watching certain death approach. I'm guessing suicide wasn't uncommon https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/12/nigeria-sailor-survive-air-pocket here's one such story with a happy ending (minus his almost certain PTSD)
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Feb 13, 2018 01:44
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah that's about as horrifying as sailors who end up trapped in compartments of sinking ships. Sitting there slowly watching certain death approach. I'm guessing suicide wasn't uncommon To add even more nightmare fuel, the electrical is typically shorted out at that point. So this is all happening in absolute pitch blackness. All it needs to be the perfect nightmare is to add some spiders and a snake or two.
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Feb 13, 2018 02:02
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In these low-oxygen cases, what is usually taking its place? Nitrogen?
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eating only apples posted:In these low-oxygen cases, what is usually taking its place? Nitrogen? In terms of the sub/sunk ship scenarios, it’s not that the oxygen is getting too low, it’s that the CO2 concentration is getting too high. Most of the hypoxia/anoxia cases I’ve heard of, it’s typically O2 displacement by nitrogen. With the occasional anoxia through altitude, like that golfer that died a while ago (10 years ago or so) when the executive jet lost cabin pressure. It was on auto-pilot and just kept going for hours and hours and I think it crashed in the mountains. It was escorted by the Air Force for a lot of that. I’m pretty sure they knew what happened fairly quickly after a visual report of the pilot slumped in the cockpit. If I recall correctly, his wife found out from the press calling her for a comment.
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Feb 13, 2018 02:39
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eating only apples posted:In these low-oxygen cases, what is usually taking its place? Nitrogen? In the case of the nigerian guy, the issue isn't airborne gases, it's the nitrogen that builds up in your tissues as pressure increases. Ascending from deep underwater too fast causes that nitrogen to leave and form blood bubbles which will kill you dead.
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The bends are a fascinating sort of terrible thing all on their own. As you descend in depth, atmospheric pressure increases; one of the effects is nitrogen under pressure passively working its way into your tissues. As pressure is reduced, the previously-concentrated nitrogen expands, leading to bubbles throughout your body tissues. This is, apparently, INCREDIBLY painful. It can cause tissue damage this way, and if too much happens too fast (which doesn't take much!), the bubbles can obstruct vascular function, so that you end up with a stroke, or tissue dying from lack of oxygen, or in one of the worst cases an embolism in the heart can kill you dead toot sweet. The heart doesn't work well with an air bubble in it; if you've ever tried to use an unprimed pump of any kind and noticed jack and poo poo happening while there's air in the line, you might be able to intuit the problem. Air bubbles can ALSO be introduced into the bloodstream if you don't regulate your breathing properly during ascent, as it can blow out the tissues of your lungs and bubble into your blood and murder you. ...look basically what I'm getting at is gently caress diving
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Feb 13, 2018 03:23
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Proteus Jones posted:
Or, in my case, a woman asking me to commit.
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Feb 13, 2018 03:52
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Shady Amish Terror posted:The bends are a fascinating sort of terrible thing all on their own. As you descend in depth, atmospheric pressure increases; one of the effects is nitrogen under pressure passively working its way into your tissues. As pressure is reduced, the previously-concentrated nitrogen expands, leading to bubbles throughout your body tissues. This is, apparently, INCREDIBLY painful. It can cause tissue damage this way, and if too much happens too fast (which doesn't take much!), the bubbles can obstruct vascular function, so that you end up with a stroke, or tissue dying from lack of oxygen, or in one of the worst cases an embolism in the heart can kill you dead toot sweet. The heart doesn't work well with an air bubble in it; if you've ever tried to use an unprimed pump of any kind and noticed jack and poo poo happening while there's air in the line, you might be able to intuit the problem. That only affects divers with apparatus over time, free divers don't suffer from this or 'bounce' divers, it's a saturation thing, hence the term for deep sea divers
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djssniper posted:That only affects divers with apparatus over time, free divers don't suffer from this or 'bounce' divers, it's a saturation thing, hence the term for deep sea divers A fair thing to point out, yeah, but I guess it's not a detail I would have thought to mention. I have horribly torn-up eardrums, so I don't exactly go swimming much in the first place, much less diving.
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Interestingly, in people with COPD (emphysema), the body becomes so accustomed to high CO2 levels that the drive to breathe based on CO2 is replaced by a drive to breathe based on blood oxygenation, potentially suppressing the urge to breathe naturally and causing carbon dioxide poisoning if they're administered oxygen. Random EMS trivia, any medgoons with more knowledge feel free to correct me.
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I'm sure it's been mentioned in here before, but all this deep sea diving and decompression chat seems like a good time to mention the Byford Dolphin incident again.
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Here's a charming item about a child abduction/murder that I stumbled across first thing this morning. Woman with three kids is tricked by a man pretending to be a Good Samaritan. Everything about this story is like a nightmare come to life. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tearful-mother-testifies-she-thought-daughters-suspected-killer-was-good-samaritan/
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Bubble Bobby posted:Here's a charming item about a child abduction/murder that I stumbled across first thing this morning. Woman with three kids is tricked by a man pretending to be a Good Samaritan. Everything about this story is like a nightmare come to life.  quote:Smith's defense attorney, Julie Schlax, suggested to the jury that Rayne Perrywinkle made poor decisions getting into the van. Sure she did. She also felt like she was at the end of her rope. I've been there. You don't know how you're going to make ends meet, get food, clothes. Then someone reaches out a hand and offers help. The hope and will to believe is so overwhelming its easy to let your better judgement take a back seat. And then something like this happens. gently caress this earth.
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Bubble Bobby posted:Here's a charming item about a child abduction/murder that I stumbled across first thing this morning. Woman with three kids is tricked by a man pretending to be a Good Samaritan. Everything about this story is like a nightmare come to life. I remember when this happened.  But I thought he'd already been sentenced.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:46
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Proteus Jones posted:
Huh? What kind of defense is that? "Well, obviously my client is skeezy as hell, so it was a poor decision to get in his van because he's a danger to--wait, wait, poo poo. Am I the defense attorney?"
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Saying your client actually did the rape and murder but that it was the victim's family's fault for trusting him is a bold choice for a defense.
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Bubble Bobby posted:Here's a charming item about a child abduction/murder that I stumbled across first thing this morning. Woman with three kids is tricked by a man pretending to be a Good Samaritan. Everything about this story is like a nightmare come to life. This messed me up. What in the world.
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That seems too smooth and plotted to have been that dude's first time doing that.
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littlebluellama posted:Huh? What kind of defense is that? It takes two to get raped and murdered: one to rape and murder and one to *get* raped and murdered. I rest my case.
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I find the idea of Kessler Syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome somewhat unnerving. A couple satellites happening to collide in earth's orbit could cause a chain reaction of destruction via debris, bringing down our global communications and preventing us from safely operating in earth's orbit ever again. quote:The Kessler syndrome is especially insidious because of the domino effect and feedback runaway wherein impacts between objects of sizable mass spall off debris from the force of collision. The shrapnel can then hit other objects, producing even more space debris: if a large enough collision or explosion were to occur, such as between a space station and a defunct satellite, or as the result of hostile actions in space, then the resulting debris cascade could make prospects for long-term viability of satellites in low earth orbit extremely low. There was a good episode of 99% Invisible that goes into some detail on this. https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/space-trash-space-treasure/
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klockwerk posted:I find the idea of Kessler Syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome somewhat unnerving. A couple satellites happening to collide in earth's orbit could cause a chain reaction of destruction via debris, bringing down our global communications and preventing us from safely operating in earth's orbit ever again. Then you are going to love Neal Stephenson’s Seven Eves. (Really read this book).
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porktree posted:Then you are going to love Neal Stephenson’s Seven Eves. (Really read this book). Well, the first two thirds, at least.
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Pakistan gang 'stole spinal fluid from women'"The Beeb" posted:The suspects told women they had to provide blood samples to qualify for financial assistance from the Punjab government, police told BBC Urdu.
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Proteus Jones posted:
If that's his defense then they're really grasping at straw. Your honor, the defendant exercised poor judgment when they stood in the line of fire of my client
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littlebluellama posted:Huh? What kind of defense is that? If your client has admitted guilt, there's only so much you can do. Hopefully you don't resort to victim blaming, but....
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PetraCore posted:And, you know, as a homeless grifter/prostitute, it's not THAT far of a stretch that all of her victims tried to take advantage of her or exploit her. It's just overall sad. Well then that’s not murder if I’m understanding correctly- you don’t lose your right to stand your ground if you’re a prostitute
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True, but if you're a habitual liar, routinely kill people, and use the money to make your life better all while not reporting it to police, it starts to look like you're not really standing your ground so much anymore.
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BattleMaster posted:Saying your client actually did the rape and murder but that it was the victim's family's fault for trusting him is a bold choice for a defense. Look, sometimes you only have the one play.
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klockwerk posted:I find the idea of Kessler Syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome somewhat unnerving. A couple satellites happening to collide in earth's orbit could cause a chain reaction of destruction via debris, bringing down our global communications and preventing us from safely operating in earth's orbit ever again.
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maskenfreiheit posted:Well then that’s not murder if I’m understanding correctly- you don’t lose your right to stand your ground if you’re a prostitute This is supported by the fact that she reported that in prison the male guards were mixing urine and feces into her food and talking in her range of hearing about how they were going to rape her before she was executed. I'm sure she didn't get the most pleasant treatment on death row, the criminal justice system is fundamentally broken, but there's still something off about that. If she hadn't been caught and apprehended it seems fairly likely she would have killed again and she'd definitely have kept surviving on a criminal lifestyle of robbery and prostitution, I'm not sure if she actually had the life skills to have settled down and gone legit, but I can't say I'm happy she was executed, either. She just makes me sad. EDIT: Like I can get the details from skimming articles or wikipedia but I super can't actually go down the rabbit hole of this because it just emotionally throws me off so much. So it's entirely possible I'm talking out of my rear end here. PetraCore has a new favorite as of 07:57 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Bubble Bobby posted:Here's a charming item about a child abduction/murder that I stumbled across first thing this morning. Woman with three kids is tricked by a man pretending to be a Good Samaritan. Everything about this story is like a nightmare come to life. Oh man when your defense is “but the mother is dumb” you’re hosed quote:Smith's defense attorney, Julie Schlax, suggested to the jury that Rayne Perrywinkle made poor decisions getting into the van.
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Solice Kirsk posted:That seems too smooth and plotted to have been that dude's first time doing that. Is it really that smooth? Targeting a family where all the survivors can be subsequent witnesses against you seems like poor planning if you were trying to get away with it.
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saltylopez posted:Is it really that smooth? Targeting a family where all the survivors can be subsequent witnesses against you seems like poor planning if you were trying to get away with it. It seems that he had plenty of opportunities to assault the mother and the girl both while they were in his car. Instead he hung around with them for a long while as they shopped around Walmart, and just waited until he saw an opportunity to isolate the girl from her mother and take her without causing a scene(at least until he was already gone). So he had a lot of self-control, because he must have been thinking that to try to take the mother and the girl at the same time would be risky. A lot of these types really don't have that ability, to lie in wait for the best moment to attack. At the very least he must have tried to approach women and figured out that this tactic of offering to buy them clothes was effective in getting them to let their guard down. He didn't just randomly come up with that idea for the first time that day.
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Yeah, and you can see in the 911 call that the mother couldn’t even recall what he was wearing or give an accurate description, and it’s a particular type of person who understands they have a safeguard in just how terrible witness memory can be.
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What the gently caress, France?quote:“She was 11 years and 10 months old, so nearly 12 years old,” the defence lawyer Marc Goudarzian said Tuesday. “It changes the story. So she is not a child.”
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